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Man, I’m not convinced either way for book 4’s romance scene predictions still....lol. With regards to that one piece of the pie, my prediction still leans as follows: IF Jasnah and or Kaladin get involved at all, I still think it’ll likely be with each other. Granted, the reasons outlined above are good reasons against it. But generally speaking, when does reason ever really reign in this realm? People make impulsive decisions and also get swept away by emotion all the time. Generally, happily married couples don’t wake up everyday planning to cheat on their spouse but it happens daily, despite a ruined life if caught. The smartest people on earth do things that make zero sense on a routine basis. Especially with regards to the opposite sex etc. I think everyone on this forum can think of someone in real life in a Jasnah situation who gets caught doing way worse than a hypothetical Kaladin hookup lol. We see this stuff daily. Analytically, the cons are pretty solid. From an equally analytical standpoint based on humanity and how people are, I would absolutely not rule Jasnadin out of the possibilities for book 4. Brandon has enough realism with people to allow for such human decisions, regrets, or whatever else. I’m probably wrong haha, Oh well.

Hmm... because Jasnah is fairly predictable as a character, I think she will lapse and have an “omg Kaladin is hot” moment... giving her more depth. Let’s be honest, guaranteed Kaladin would go for her based on looks alone lol. Keeping her the way she currently is without variance seems sorta cliche... whether or not anything lasts, I strongly think her and Kaladin are gonna get involved, just my $0.02. I don’t think Kaladin will lose anymore family... for heaven’s sake I hope not, he deserves a break. He loses everything. I could see Lirin binding one of the other two greatspren...but obviously he’d need more page time.

Hmm..... weeeell, I generally would agree. But Brandon doesn’t waste any words or details. The fact that is happened 2 doors down from Taln MIGHT carry some weight? Perhaps a cameo of another herald

Lol the poll is pretty accurate, I think. By far top 3 are Kaladin, Dalinar and Kelsier

My initial thought is that it’s 100% Lift... based off the reading I think we will see her grow a lot and maybe adopt some clothing styles?? Shallan had the inside of Words of Radiance.... (I secretly don’t want it to be Shallan because she’s just......the worst). Could also be Ash or that radiant who follows Mr T around? Based on the black blade and hand guard though I’m saying Nightblood and Lift (due to size of her and length of blade).

My money is on Lift. Just saw the UK cover art

Fear: Kaladin continues to be forced into failure and we go through another 1400 pages of him almost succeeding until the very end when he finally does (or doesn’t).

My wishlist: lets see Kaladin be 100% confident and unstoppable——got it, the guy is depressed. Seen enough in real life, it’s a fantasy book lol. Can he please catch a break, get a sense of humor or something, and not constantly be waterboarded by all the drama? This dude is probably the biggest BAMF in the series (my opinion), it gets old seeing him run down and forced to failure. Troy quote: “you don’t need to control him, you need to unleash him”.

Nameless aka Morgoth lol, my money is that your theory gets a tipping-of-the-hat by Brandon by the end of the series. That guys definitely does read this stuff

Rock: 100% the rock Dalinar: Karl Urban Kaladin: Henry Cavill... except Kaladin is like 20. Cavill is late 30’s but is 100% Kaladin Navani: Femke Janson or however you spell her name Sigzil: Darth maul with manners Taravangian: May he Rest In Peace, Best match woulda been the 1st dumbledore. Current winner is Clint Eastwood from The Mule. Jasnah: Kate Beckinsale Shallan: must be the most annoying person in Hollywood, so Miley Cyrus. J/k, would be better played by Nic Cage lol. In all seriousness, probably the stage 5 clinger from Wedding Crashers. Zahel: ..... just to give the man a break so he doesn’t die on camera for the 90th time, Sean Bean

^ agreed... whatever is going on with the crem though, the source producing it is slowly getting depleted. The built up crem on roshar is never returned to where it came from.

I like the Jasnah firearms addition... plus there’s the third mistborn trilogy and it’s technological setting to consider when pondering how the rest of Stormlight plays out. For book 4, I think that as a general vibe we are gonna be taken to a very depressing place. This is an extreme hand wave, as generic as humanly possible: Book 1-great hook, fairly up and down, strong ending with huge promise book 2- sort of in the doldrums for a good portion, a few really high points, exciting ending with a big cliffhanger book 3- loads of headway and a lot of questions answered, some victories for both sides book 4-previous three are generally positive with a lot of victories for the good guys and a lot of intrigue, but tbh we haven’t had a huge amount of loss.. in other words, the good guys have not been beat into the dust. I think we “need” that (def. not “want”) in order to set the stage for book 5 and the next 5 after that. i fully expect book 4 to be a hopeless bloodbath with a lot of pissed but addicted fans, and I wouldn’t put it past good writing to have someone like Kaladin or Dalinar dying.

I haven’t found this online before, I’m fairly certain that B.S. created the whole Kaladin/Syl/Windrunner squires thing from Hook. Why!? I’m watching “Hook” right now with Robin Williams. I’ve seen it a thousand times, it was the theme of literally every family get together. (If you haven’t seen it, or more relevantly, HAVE seen it but haven’t seen it since you’ve read the Stormlight Archive, then this is for you.) I’m not the greatest at articulation, so forgive me for botching the job... that said, the fairy Tinker Bell (Julia Roberts) looks exactly like Syl as described in the book. She essentially “saves” Peter Pan (or Kaladin, a depressed version of him as a middle aged adult). The entire experience throughout the film smacks of Syl bonding Kaladin and their relationship, both visually and emotionally. Next we have the wind running/flying. A close look at the movie and books shows the similarities with ease. The squires: the lost boys. ESPECIALLY THE LAST SCENE IN NEVERLAND. This whole scene (after Dustin Hoffman is eaten by the crocodile... and by the way he seriously reeks of “Odium”), when watched from the POV of a Cosmere Fan, feels like an analogy to Odium’s reign (having read through Oathbringer). Brandon is what, 36-40 years old? Means he’d have been 9-13 when the movie came out, had to have been his holiday favorite. It’s a stretch with zero proof, all I’m suggesting is that a mortal human author usually has inspiration and I think I may have found his inspiration. Ok, ok. Before I clocked “post” I googled it in a different window and found this: I postulate also that Atilium is Brandon Sanderson’s ghost account.

Croaker’s Apprentice haha, that was an excellent maneuvre, took a lot of valour to post that and a colourful imagination.

Love it! Awesome breakdown, this is full-on legit. I think my primary 2 cents of difference as far as predictions go are these, but I’m mainly throwing these out there just because it’s cool to speculate. Navani: will bond the Sibling, as the Sinling seems to be the heartbeat of Urithiru and Navani is the driving force/most obsessed with figuring out the Urothiru life support system/Fabrials—- she’s also linked to Dalinar and the stormfather by proximity as well as position/Influence. If anyone figures out how to awaken the Sibling, it’ll have to be her. Rhlain: He’s gonna possibly bond the Nightwatcher, as he’s being cultivated for some higher purpose that we don’t know yet. That, or (as posted originally) he will bond the Sibling and Navani will bond the Nightwatcher.... because she’s been cultivated for a higher purpose lol. I *hope* Kaladin escapes the standard “lets beat down Kaladin” plot line in book 4, I feel that it’s overdone and he deserves a break. Also, I predict Kaladin and Jasnah. Ishar will turn out to be Tolkien’s Saruman.... a traitor to the good guys, also a traitor to the bad guys, in it for himself, and ultimately a distraction. Even his name “Ishar” reminds me of “Istari”.... just sayin. Szeth will kill Nale.... Nale deserves it. And it’ll be a band aid to whatever is left of the Oathpact, as the herald killing dagger is in the hands of Moash. But I think it’s gonna happen in the last part... the whole Nale/Nightblood scene that we know of from Azure which also ties in Zahel will probably be hit upon all book long until the end. Honor: Dalinar will fully ascend in book 4, escaping the clichéd “book 5 ascension”. His ascension is probably what will assist the Sibling in waking up. So we will see full-on Shard(s) vs Shard in book 5? Who knows! Absolutely awesome post, got the gears turning in my head.

Interesting points on Cultivation! Asshe is one of the 16 shardholders with a plethora of behind the scenes workings, I think we will all be surprised by her intentions/workings in book 4. I have mixed feelings/impressions from Cultivation. Assuming that the Diagram actually IS from her (We don’t have an actual account of Mr. T’s trip to the Nightwatcher like we do for Dalinar) she’s blatantly leading Mr. T. down an “immoral” path by lying to him and causing a lot of death. Not that she has to be moral, as of course to a shard like Cultivation, certain death/decay is acceptable. But she was all about Honor/Tanavast. Perhaps she’s the Machiavelli equivalent of the shards.... ie., the end justifies the means. We see Cultivation specifically grooming Dalinar to face Odium (when he seeks out the Nighwatcher), although she admits/vocalizes that she’s taking a gamble in doing so. From this passage in OB, it seems that the reader gets a “truthful” glimpse into her intent.... that she wants Odium to fall. On the other hand, the diagram is all about killing/assassinating/usurping Dalinar. Unless Cultivation is just being manipulative as ever, I’d wonder if the Diagram is “really” a product of the nightwatcher via Mr. T., or if it’s source is Odium. Perhaps the boon granted to Mr. T. By the nightwatcher about having the capacity to save everyone has absolutely nothing to do with the diagram, that it’s a red herring, and Odium wrote the diagram??

Heck yeah. Aside from the flying ships, I’m sure Brandon has already concocted vehicles or something specific to Windrunners in his mind with seatbelts of some sort to prevent tumblage. If Kaladin’s squires each controlled a flying car with 5-6 people belted in, his 30 man airborne platoon could turn into an entire company.

That said, in theory the wagon would consume the same net amount of stormlight as the amount of people it’s carrying (plus the weight of the wagon)... so economically it’d be more expensive with regards to stormlight consumption. However, there’s a lot more ease of use for the one doing the lashings. Also, I think it’d be possible to create fabrials that had two pieces.... one attached to the wagon and one worn by the wearer, perhaps controlling binding or adhesion? Or gravity? That way there’d be no need to “cancel gravity” that pulls on the people while the wagon is separately lashed? Dunno, just some thoughts.... going off the passage in Oathbringer, chapter 60-something, where Kaladin is flying everyone to Kholinar and the dynamics/rules of windrunner flight are described. I’m upvoting your reply though, makes sense.

I haven’t seen this topic so I apologize if it’s a repeat. Am I the only one wondering why Kaladin doesn’t escort non-squires in flight by use of a common object or vehicle? For example, “everyone hold this bar and I’ll lash the bar”. Obviously a crude example as people’s grip would fail, but perhaps a wagon or something that’d accommodate people in seats. That way he doesn’t have to constantly sky-dive-maneuver and re-lash everyone. Just an observation/thought.

After reading all 10 pages of back and forth regarding Jasnadin, all I’m gonna say is that opposites attract and there’s no predictability in reality for people getting together. The fact that each character can remain single and bring fulfillment to the reader, OR hookup with another character and bring just as much fulfillment to the reader, signals that Brandon has done his job as an author very well. Regardless of if they get together, it’ll be a great 4th book I think. My personal vote: Shallan is a mental case, Kaladin is better off without her. Jasnah needs some humility, as legit as she is I find her extremely annoying with the bossiness. Kaladin could use a bucket of water (metaphorically) to the face, Jasnah could provide it. Lol

Yeah good point about Nale’s actions...He is probably the character who frustrates me the most on Roshar. He tells Szeth that it would be unwise to swear to him for his next ideal.... and he repeatedly says that he’s getting worse. Turning on his own kind right now and literally working FOR Odium is cause to raise an eyebrow.... his warped sense of justice and following the law has completely overshadowed any shred of actual honor as well as common sense. He’s acting like he just now is finding out that the fused are the natives. I bet that Nale meets a sticky end at the beginning of book 4.... his new “friends” will easily ambush/kill him with the same knife that ended Jezrien.

Stormlight doesn’t add much strength though. Kaladin notes that detail after Rock shoots Amaram with the Shardbow, unassisted by plate. It says that Stormlight adds endurance, not strength. Even the “light” 200lbs is pretty friggin heavy.... sending a fully armed and armored adult male flying through the air with a one handed shove requires an inhuman amount of strength (plate) or a special ability. I do concur, something is definitely going on.

I dunno....To me it doesn’t jive with the feeling of the entire section, and Odium’s rage/shock... which he brought up later on to Mr T about Dalinar’s ascension. Which is significant. Again, why does Taln literally have 1 moment of Lucidity which happens to coincide with the ascension? Which happens to happen at the same time Odium goes crazy. The Evi theory feels like jigsaw pieces that don’t fit being forced together. Huge climactic moment of the book is either centered around the primary conflict/restoration of the good deity, or frankly wasted on some relatively obscure character that we’ve only met for a couple of chapters. I think the Evi moment received final closure when Dalinar received forgiveness.