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Welcome, Draco. I think you will enjoy it here with other like-minded. Glad to have you around.

This is quite good. Amazing for your age. Keep writing, I think you have a gift. It was interesting to have a bit of depth in Kirin, in that short of a clip.

I would be very interested to see where the story goes. 

Welcome! I liked your summation about what you like about the Cosmere. I have to agree. I too like the first ideal, and I think it is part of why it feels like you can connect with the Knights Radiant.

This is awesome. Even in things like shardblades separated from the guidance of the Nahel Bond, or the Nahel Bond without the benefit of Honor's involvement. It really seems to match with a lot of the stories being told.

3 minutes ago, Stormrunner1730 said:

We (the reader) see him flying/falling in Edgedancer.

Isn't Edgedancer before the end of WoR, and the showdown with Kaladin?

15 minutes ago, Calderis said:

 @lyht I disagree with this point. 

Maybe I should rephrase: "something in all this SEEMS to be working", and maybe even add "temporarily...".

I agree that the real reason for the long break is unknown. The Diagram stated

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Obviously they are fools The Desolation needs no usher It can and will sit where it wishes and the signs are obvious that the spren anticipate it doing so soon The Ancient of Stones must finally begin to crack It is a wonder that upon his will rested the prosperity and peace of a world for over four millennia

 Which says to me that Nale's efforts are a waste of time. But it is also possible that Talenel held strong and kept it at bay. Maybe. The Diagram can be wrong.

Hm... more to think about.

Most of this is yet to be learned. We are not quite sure how the oathpact worked, and why. Or really even what it was. But here is what I gather from the prelude in WoK:

• They heralds were not sure what to expect when they walked away from their oaths, but they had decided they could not handle another session being tortured at Damnation.
• They hoped Talenel still connected to the oathpact would be enough to keep Odium bound by it.
• They hoped that by not returning, the cycles of desolations would actually end.
• I dont know if they want to reverse what they have done, or if they think they can.

Some other stuff that I think applies:

• They were not the only ones to walk away. The Knights Radiant broke their oaths, and the Parshendi gave up all their songs and forms.
• Nale specifically is working to keep the Desolation at bay, through making sure the Knights Radiant do not reform, by finding and killing people with the Nahel Bond.
• Some how, something in all this is working, as they have had a period of 4500 years with no Desolation.
• The "Final Desolation" is not like the others, almost like it got started in a different way

I dont know how much of that applies to what you are thinking. No doubt the oathpact is a complex concept for which we do not have all the facts yet. It will be fun to learn more.

1 hour ago, Faceless Mist-Wraith said:

The above rule talks about the 10 heartbeats, which means that it applies to dead spren blades. But Brandon has said it is possible to have more than one spren, and shard blades that come from live spren can be summoned near instantaneously. Could this be used as a work around to summon several blades at once?

Everything on this post so far makes sense to me, and I think it does mean that you could summon multiple blades at once. Not likely more than 2, and even then it could be very unlikely... but possible.

But I have a variation of the question. Is a spren limited to a single form, or could a single spren manifest as more than one blade?

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He was a darkeyes, but clearly well respected, though he didn't bear an obvious military rank.

This is the same guy that was the huntmaster for the hunt that went wrong in WoK. Interesting that even with that disaster, he is still in roles of responsibility.

His name is Bashin. Even though he doesn't use an honorific at that time, he does earlier, calling him both Brightlord and Sir.

On 8/9/2017 at 0:51 PM, shadowwisp said:

Fantastic talk by Brandon about his views and plans for resurrection and death in the Cosmere...

Funny, I found that post and was like "Hey we were just talking about that on the board. I should post a link." To slow!

27 minutes ago, Calderis said:

So unless we see someone directly wielding the power of a Shard, be it through a conduit like the Honorblades pre-splintering of honor, a Shardpool, or actual Ascension, then their death is permanent unless revived quickly enough that we'll know before we put the book down to discuss it. 

I think a much more common occurrence will be like Jasnah where we think they are dead, but there are legitimate reasons for them not to be dead, and they pop back up later, "Surprise, rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated!"

Everything you are saying is true, I believe. However, I think that even if the knowledge were known, it may not mean we get a bunch of people returning from the dead. I imagine that whatever process he uses will be very difficult to pull off, and very hard to replicate, because that is how Kelsier works.

Brandon has stated that he is often worried about having the death of any character not be permanent, because it can take away the level of danger the characters are truly in. He is kind of in that situation already, many characters we thought were dead have turned out not to be, but I imagine he will always be careful about it.

Welcome to the deep, dark, rabbit hole of Sanderson's worlds. I would make some suggestions about what to do while here, but I think @skaa took them all! (jerk)

Shallan continues to be one of my favs, although I never tire of Wayne. Lift's entire interlude in WoR continues to be one of my favorite scenes.

What? That is awesome! Man, sometimes he really sneaks those in there.

Every change makes me go "hmmmm... I dont know if I am going to like this Doctor". Only because I like the previous Doctor so much. But every time I really like the new one. We will see...

6 hours ago, Scadrian Chasmfiend said:

Stormlight Archive

Sweet. I love them too. What do you like about them? 

Welcome, welcome! Glad you could join us. I like your obsessions!

Welcome to nerdiness of Sandertown. This is a fun place, and I think you will fit right in.

Mistborn or Stormlight? I love them both so much for different reasons, but if I had to pick one, Stormlight. Maybe because that is what I am reading, but I think it is because there seems to be NO END to the complex world-building and secrets and hidden gems.

Welcome! It is rough to give up on the worlds, isn't it? I am blasting through Words of Radients, and I am going much faster than I expected. I thought I would be done just in time for the next book, but I am going to have a month of twiddling my thumbs.

Glad you are here. Lurking as long as you have, you probably have a leg-up on most new comers.

Crap. Now that song will be in my head all day!

Welcome! This place is great fun, and super supportive. 

3 hours ago, Argel said:

In the 10th anniversary edition of Elantris, we see Hoid use the shard pool. And it didn't seem like he had to prepare much, unless he did all his preparations ahead of time. Maybe there are ways to navigate through the storm if you know the path/what to look for (like whirpools/deadly rocks when it comes to ships -- pretty common trope).

I just read that a few days ago, and said to myself, "Hoid! How did you do that!" I love that that scene did not clear anything up, just made what he is doing that much more confusing!