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  1. @BasementDwellingRadiant There are now multiple RoW boards. They are now no longer under Stormlight Archive. It is in a category above The Cosmere but below the Brandon Sanderson category.
  2. To me, Brandon's a storyteller. I want him to write the best books possible. If the year doesn't come to a cohesive story, I just don't think he'd write it. I can understand why some would want to see what happened in the meantime, but then you don't get to have fun things like a big ol' airship popping in to save the day. You need time to progress for that. But realistically, he's doing this so this book is a more interesting story.
  3. Actually @Rainier I hadn't added that until Brandon commented on it. I just added it a bit ago. I had seen the chapter 2/3 one, but not the chapter 4/5 one. We'll try to keep these up to date on the index. Maybe he'll even put them on his website someday!
  4. I will try and think of some hackery that would permanently hide it on the forum home. I don't like requiring spoiler tags; that was very annoying to enforce in Oathbringer times.
  5. We had a nice surprise today: a newsletter from Brandon, and it contains some new exclusive fiction, this time from Dawnshard! It's pretty cool, so make sure you sign up on Brandon's site. The time sensitive piece on this is that the Way of Kings Leatherbound Kickstarter ends tomorrow at 2pm Pacific. If you're interested, or want add-ons, you need to back it now. Add-ons will come via BackerKit after the Kickstarter is over. Dawnshard Prologue and More Spoiler Boards! Brandon released a short excerpt of the rough draft from Dawnshard, the novella you can get by backing the Kickstarter. We've talked about it quite a bit recently if you didn't know about it so far. If you sign up for the newsletter and confirm your email, you should get this newsletter right now, which will contain that prologue! You can chat about it in our thread on it! I wanted to briefly mention that we have now made a Dawnshard spoiler forum, where you can discuss Dawnshard but not get spoiled on Rhythm of War content. We also made some big changes on how we usually do spoiler boards, and expanded the Rhythm of War boards to three separate forums: one for general reactions, one for character discussion, and one for magic/lore/cosmere things. Hopefully this will make it so it is easier for you to find the discussions you'd like to find, because when the book comes out, things are going to get very busy. You can read more about our thoughts here. Release Party In the newsletter, Brandon said this about the Rhythm of War release party. It's going to be digital now, which I definitely expected: Rhythm of War Preview Chapter "Annotations" Brandon also said that he's been doing comments on Reddit on each preview chapter as they come out. I knew he was doing this, but he was calling them annotations, so... annotations are kind of back? Neat! I love annotations. I doubt we will get these for more than the previews, though. Here are his "annotations," which I've added to our Preview Chapter Index. Here's his chapters 2 and 3 one, and the chapters 4 and 5 comment.
  6. Let's use this topic for reactions:
  7. Danielle and Marvin continue their adventure into Rhythm of War. This time they discuss Chapters 4 and 5. They split up discussion by viewpoint, which is... maybe better! I dunno, you'll see! Important news: The Way of Kings leatherbound Kickstarter ends FRIDAY (that's tomorrow) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dragonsteel/the-way-of-kings-10th-anniversary-leatherbound-edition Get it now if you're interested! Thank you to Feather for editing this and showing me some basic Premiere skills in the process. You can find all of the preview chapters, and our discussions on 17S, here: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/91039-rhythm-of-war-sample-chapters-and-discussion-threads-index/ Want a recap of Stormlight Archive? We're doing a series of articles on catching people up! https://www.17thshard.com/news/features/stormlight-archive-recap-world-and-history-r584/ The sweet animated wallpaper is from Cosmere.es, the Spanish fan site. It's awesome! They have one for Words of Radiance as well! https://cosmere.es/descargas/ Chapters: Introduction 0:00 Chapter 4 2:15 Chapter 5 29:35 If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss
  8. Here's the link to the Warbreaker annotations for you. It does answer these questions: https://www.brandonsanderson.com/annotation-warbreaker-dedication/
  9. Hi all, One problem with Oathbringer's spoiler period was that people couldn't find what they were interested in discussing. Some individuals wanted to talk about lore/magic stuff and cosmere theories. Others wanted to discuss characters and relationships. That OB spoiler board was crazy busy. So, to that end, we are expanding the Rhythm of War Spoiler board into an entire section. This Rhythm of War and Dawnshard Spoiler Area has three different RoW boards: General Thoughts, Character Discussion, and Lore/Cosmere Discussion. Hopefully this will mean individuals of different mindsets can more easily see topics they are interested in. The RoW Lore/Cosmere Discussion board can have full cosmere spoilers unlabeled, effectively replacing what we normally did where we allowed new book discussion things in the normal Cosmere board. That will not be permitted this time around. All new spoiler content will be in this category. Since Dawnshard's prologue is coming in the newsletter later today we have also made a dedicated Dawnshard board. The Dawnshard board will not have Rhythm of War spoilers, but the other RoW boards could discuss Dawnshard details as a "full spoiler" zone. Obviously, there's some overlap of character vs. lore/cosmere discussion, and I don't think we need to be super strict about that. But generally, I'd say lore/cosmere stuff is more about magic, Realmatics, and the mechanics of how things work. Character Discussion focuses more on characterization and relationships. There is some middle ground for sure, but use that as a rule of thumb. I've moved a variety of topics already. If you want a topic in a different board, just report it. Hopefully this will make things a lot more manageable for people to find things they want to interact with. Certainly in Oathbringer's time, things got very busy.
  10. Since topic titles appear in the forum index if they are the most recent reply, avoid spoilers in topic titles. Thanks!
  11. Unfortunately, this is not possible to do. We will try to keep big spoilers out of topic titles. This can be difficult, though, as there's a balance in having a topic title say what it means, but not be spoilery. Sometimes it can be hard to do without the topic being incredibly vague. Please report spoilery topic titles and we will do our best. It is not possible to keep them off the forum home without passwording the forum. In Invision Power Board 3.x, there was a setting that could do this, but it's gone now...
  12. This is an article from our wonderful friends at Cosmere.es, the Spanish cosmere fansite, translated into English for you to read. The original article is here, written by the lovely Ysondra. Today, I want to share with you guys a really special interview for me. Back in 2006, shortly before Brandon published in Spain and before I discovered him. I had a personal blog and spent a lot of time playing something called MUD and World of Warcraft. I’ve always been fascinated by illustrations for fantasy and science fiction works, and my blog had a space dedicated to listing my favorite artists. I had two separate lists: one for established artists, and one for younger artists who I thought showed great promise. One of the artists on my second list was someone called “Breathing2004”, who I discovered thanks to a Blizzard fanart contest. He was an impressive artist, and I was in love with his art from the first fanart I saw. It’s a small world, and 14 years later, Jian Guo did the covers for the Chinese editions of Brandon Sanderson’s books (among other popular authors) and now he’s working with Dragonsteel on the tenth anniversary editions. Top left: Elantris Chinese cover, by Jian Guo. Top right: The Emperor's Soul Chinese cover, by Jian Guo. Bottom: The Way of Kings Chinese cover, by Jian Guo. Just like we all enjoyed the illustrations he did for the capital letters at the start of each Warbreaker chapter last year, this year we get to see his interpretation of the chapter arches in each chapter of the 10th anniversary edition of The Way of Kings which is funded by a Kickstarter. [Editor's note: the Kickstarter ends Friday! -Eric] Big thanks to Isaac Stewart who gave us the chapter arches images from the Prologue which you can see below when we talk more about Jian Guo’s work with Dragonsteel. We want to give a special thanks to Javier Altayó. This interview would not be possible without the help of this marvelous translator. Altayó was born in 1978 in Sabadell and received his degree in Mandarin translation from the Autonomous University of Barcelona. He also studied Chinese language and culture at the University of Peking (Beijing, China) and has lived in Taipei, Taiwan for more than a decade where he works as a teacher and a translator. We want to thank him again, from the bottom of our hearts, for making this interview possible. If you like science fiction, you’ll surely know his work (though you might not have noticed) because he translated the majority of Cixin Liu’s work to Spanish for Nova including The Three Body Problem, The Dark Forest, Ball Lightning, and The Wandering Earth, and we can’t wait for his next translation of The Supernova Era which comes out October 15th. We also want to send a heartfelt thank you to Jian Guo for not only giving us his time, but also sharing with us some exclusive sketches that you can enjoy while reading along. Now, please join me in getting to know Jian Guo. I hope you’re left as fascinated by his art as we have been! You’ll discover his art ranges from the faceted style that resembles stained glass to art inspired by contemporary painters such as Picasso. If you like his work, please make sure to check out his DeviantArt and ArtStation accounts, because they’re impressive. Celestial Palace, by Jian Guo Interview with Jian Guo, artist for the 19th anniversary editions of Warbreaker and The Way of Kings Translated into Spanish by Xavier Altayó. Translated to English by Bea. To start, I wanted to say thank you for giving us your time. I’ve been in love with your work since 2006 or 2007 when I found you in the World of Warcraft forums. I had a blog (which I still have) where I put my favorite professional illustrators and promising artists. You were among the promising artists, and it’s an honor to have the opportunity to interview you, not only because of your work for the Chinese covers of Sanderson’s books, but because of what your art means to me. Even though we don’t know Madarin, Sasori and I have several Chinese editions of Sanderson’s books at home just to admire the covers. Of the ones we have, I have to say Elantris, Warbreaker, and The Way of Kings are our favorites. Botanica Xu signed our copy of Elantris and also sent us one of your autographs because they knew how much we liked your art! Ysondra’s collection of Chinese books! From left to right, Chinese editions illustrated by Jian Guo: The Way of Kings, Warbreaker, Elantris, The Emperor’s Soul, and Infinity Blade Cosmere.es: Before we came to know you as Jian Guo, many of us knew you as Breathing2004, but we didn’t know much else about you. Could you tell us a little about yourself? Where did you get the nickname Breathing2004? In 2004 I was trying to upload things to a website called GFXartist and I realized I didn’t have a username. My intention with my paintings is that looking at them is as easy as breathing, so from there I took “Breathing” and since I had to use letters and numbers, I ended up calling myself “Breathing2004.” Cosmere.es: The first illustration of yours I saw was a fanart for World of Warcraft in 2006 or 2007. This, along with the rest of your portfolio, makes me ask: what influence have video games, fantasy literature, and science fiction had on you? What are your favorite books and video games? I guess my first contact with quality science fiction was through a Chinese magazine called Science Fiction World. Video games came later, when I had a computer. I think my first online video game had to be World of Warcraft. I loved it from the first moment and even still, it holds a special place with me. Because I loved it, I would do art related to it from time to time. I didn’t know this was called fanart until later. As for science fiction, I like Asimov novels (for example The Caves of Steel, The Last Question), Tales of Earthsea by Ursula K. Leguin, and the Dark Elf Trilogy by R. A. Salvatore; as for video games, I have a weakness for the games by Black Isle Studios and Blizzard. Sci-Fi World Magazine covers, by Jian Guo. From left to right: ABdiel, Hercules, Pegasus, The Fallen Angel. Cosmere.es: When would you say your career started? When you started doing fanart for World of Warcraft? Or were you known before then? I’ve liked to draw since I was a kid. At the beginning I was limited to coloring or coping, of course. I didn’t start learning digital drawing until I graduated university and started to work. I bought my first Wacom drawing tablet with my paycheck and started taking my first steps following tutorials in magazines. The first place I uploaded work to was a Chinese website called huoshen.com. Later, I went to foreign sites like “cgtalk” or “gfxartist”. At the time, everything I did was original work. I didn’t start with fan art until I became a fan of World of Warcraft. The story of Pandaria, Emperor Shaohao, by Jian Guo Cosmere.es: Could you tell us about your creative process from the inspiration to the sketches to sitting down to start working and finally the finished product? At first I conceived and matured all my drawings in my mind before I sat at my computer. I didn’t take any time in between. So basically, I did it all in a row which left the concept and composition of the work very simplistic. Over time, I developed a habit of sketching on the computer and drawing in layers. The commercial commissions I’ve taken in the last few years have been especially helpful with integrating my own ideas into what the commissioner has requested in their reference material or textual descriptions. Oni Tensei, by Jian Guo Cosmere.es: How would you describe your style’s evolution? How did you start making these spectacular illustrations that look like stained glass? When I first started digital illustration, I set out to imitate the expressive techniques popular at the time: thick, realistic strokes. Later, when I found myself stuck, I I took advantage of my studies in university and my previous work experience in architectural design which had centered on flat, geometric shapes. I tried to use the techniques I already knew to evolve my style. At the same time, I looked for inspiration in the polychrome stained glass common in European churches, in art nouveau, in art deco, and in the ornamental motifs from traditional Chinese painting so bit by bit I could find a direction that, combined with the requirements of narrative expression, led me to my current style. Some work inspired by Tolkien, by Jian Guo Cosmere.es: How did you come into contact with Brandon Sanderson’s work? Do you have a favorite? The publisher of The Way of Kings offered me the chance to draw its cover while they were working on its publication. At the time, I had done very few covers. It all went really fast: I didn’t have time to read the whole text and I had to get an idea from the key fragments they gave me. But by the end, it didn’t seem to be a bad method. This was my first contact with Sanderson’s work. After I received a copy of the book and sat down to read the whole novel, I was completely fascinated. In the following years, they translated several more of his books and I did the covers of some of them. My favorites are The Emperor’s Soul and Warbreaker. The former I like because of its Asian influence and due its cute and strong protagonist. The latter captivated me with its chromatic magic and the contrast of the two main protagonists. It’s also very well written. Jian Guo work in the Tenth Anniversary leatherbound for The Way of Kings. Image from Dragonsteel Entertainment. Left to right: Chapter arch, Chinese Way of Kings cover which will be in the gallery of artists, and a second chapter arch. Image credit: Dragonsteel. Prologue chapter arch for The Way of Kings leatherbound. Final design may be different and is subject to change. Knights Radiant Poster by Jian Guo. Progress shot is to the left, final is to the right. You can buy this poster here. It's pretty great! Infinity Blade cover, by Jian Guo. Left is the progress shot, the right is the final version. Cosmere.es: We are in love with the covers you’ve done, not just for the Cosmere, but also for Infinity Blade. But, the work you’ve done for the 10th anniversary edition of Warbreaker with the capital letters is impressive. How was working with Isaac Stewart and the Dragonsteel team? I’m very grateful to Sanderson and Isaac for entrusting me with the design of several important motifs. Isaac in particular is extremely patient and also very precise in asking for what he wants. He’s there to guide me during each commission so by the end of the piece, the final product is the fruit of our joint effort. He’s been a huge help. Jian Guo's Warbreaker cover. Left is a progress shot, right is the final version. Drop cap for E for the Warbreaker leatherbound, by Jian Guo. Different letters appear at the beginning of each chapter. by Jian Guo. Left is an in-progress shot, the right is the final. Cosmere.es: What is the situation with fantasy and science fiction literature in China? Are they heavily edited genres? How many people read them? Are they considered part of the general literature? How are they received by the public? They published a ton of science fiction and fantasy books at the beginning of the year from both Chinese and foreign authors. Any book related to big cinematic releases or that has received an important award in the specialized worlds for literature also makes its way here. Since the success of Cixin Liu’s Three Body Problem Trilogy translation on the global level, various other Chinese works have been translated and met success on the international market. In regards to the Chinese market, despite the limitation of prices and the lack of robust alternatives, I can’t say reading physical books is very popular. Instead, excellent fantasy titles are accessed through online reading platforms or other internet platforms. They often gain public recognition and then are adapted to series, movies, or games. Specific Chinese sub-genres have also emerged: xiuxian stories (stories where the hero trains to reach immortality) chuanyue stories (stories where the hero suddenly finds themself transported to another time or world), and zhongtian stories (stories about everyday agricultural life or farmers) all of which are interesting. Fantasy and science fiction have slowly been gaining ground and have become important genres however fantasy is seen as more serious and science fiction is considered pure escapism and is popular with young people. The Three Body Problem cover by Jian Guo Cosmere.es: Which other authors, Chinese or worldwide, would you like to work with? Of the forgein works that get to China, the majority of them are from authors who write in English, but I’d like to work with writers from all over the world. I don’t want to limit myself to English language authors. I want to draw beautiful and interesting covers and illustrations for authors who write in whichever language. But, to do that, you have to recognize the huge amount of work for translators, who open the door to these opportunities to see other worlds of fantasy. Arthur C. Clarke covers by Jian Guo Cosmere.es: We’re getting more and more books from Chinese, or Chinese-origin people in Europe and the US, which has been cool because reading books from diverse sources gives us an enriching point of view. We’ve seen your illustrations inspired by Cixin Liu’s work. Will you do the official covers for his new novels? Cixin Liu’s work usually has several editions in China. I would love to have the opportunity to illustrate one of his magnificent books. And I would also, humbly, like to enrich the works of other excellent writers as much as I can. Cosmere.es: Which other Chinese authors who are unknown in the West do you suggest? I usually read forgein literature, but not too long ago I read Tales of Tarsylia by Wu Miao and Sishige, the new compilation of stories by Qitongren, both of which I liked a lot. For about a year I’ve followed the podcast series Desert Wolf by Kennedy Xu, Lord of the Mysteries by Yuan Ye, and the series Ghost Blows out the Light by Zhang Muye. And all of Liu’s work is amazing, without having to say. Cosmere.es: Thank you so much for your time and sharing your impressions with us. We sincerely hope to continue enjoying your art and that you continue to give life to the Cosmere. Aside from everything we’ve said and before we say goodbye, is there anything else you’d like to mention? I wish to continue having the chance to contribute my particular style of illustration to more amazing work and to thereby bring the cultures of the East and West closer together by portraying the beauty of the world. Sanderson’s work is outstanding, as we all know, so I look forward to working with him in the future. That’s been our interview with Jian Guo! We hope you all have enjoyed it. I have to say it was a challenge to decide which images to include between the hundreds he’s published in his galleries over the years. Even though we couldn’t include more, he’s done a lot more covers for other writers and other, beautiful original work which you can see on his DeviantArt (don’t miss it! You’ll love it!) where he’s the most active. Having the chance to talk with Jian Guo after so many years as a fan of his art, thanks to the generosity of Javier Altayó, has been a little dream come true. So, if you liked this interview, don’t forget to say thank you to him for making this all possible. Thank you, Xavier, we love you! And thank you Cosmere.es and Ysondra for letting us post this in English, and Bea for translating! -Eric
  13. Just some jerks saying jerk things who were eventually banned, is all.
  14. I don't recall what context we talked about 2014. Do you remember? Comes Monday! Though we are starting to post videos earlier on Patreon when we get them done, if you'd like.
  15. Last week, we passed 5000 subscribers on YouTube, and honestly, we have gained quite a lot since then! But on Sunday we did a Q&A on Twitch to answer a bunch of questions from you all. I did miss some questions but I will keep them for another Q&A eventually. I hope you enjoy! This is basically unedited fun. We hope you enjoy! We have Eric (Chaos), Alyx (Feather), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Grace (thegatorgirl), Shannon (Grey), and Ben (Overlord Jebus). Guest starring Lucy, the Overlady, joining Ben some! Next week we will have a Dark One Lore podcast! If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  16. Hi, so I've seen this kind of a lot recently, but we would really like to not have this place be full of spammy posts. So, don't double post. I've seen a lot of posts within minutes of someone's first post and then they post a second post. Just... edit your previous one if you have something you need to add. Like I understand, it's fun and games, but someone shouldn't be posting four times in a row, for example. Review our policies here: Multiple posts will simply be removed. If you wish to quote multiple people, use the Multiquote feature, which is the + sign next to Quote.
  17. Today we're beginning a new series: Rhythm of Previews, where Danielle and Marvin discuss the preview chapters of Rhythm of War, the fourth Stormlight Archive book. We're hoping to keep these a bit shorter than Shardcast, so we won't talk in incredible detail on everything, but we'll do our best to give you the highlights! Tor.com released the prologue and chapter 1 on Thursday, and then chapters 2 and 3 Tuesday, so this is a double-lengthed episode. We're going to do this weekly (assuming scheduling works out), so our next episode will half the length since there will just be one or two chapters next week. We're going in order, so we aren't discussing the chapter from the newsletter or Brandon's SDCC reading. You can find all of the preview chapters, and our discussions on 17S, in our Rhythm of War preview chapter index: Want a recap of Stormlight Archive? We're doing a series of articles on catching people up! If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/bMAUS5c
  18. There's a reference to hearing a voice that lead them to get Szeth. That's what that is referred to. You can change it so it's less explicitly referring to a Voidspren if you wish. I think there is an implication there.
  19. It's a width/viewport thing. Responsive designs are built off of knowing how wide your screen is. So in landscape, it's in Tablet mode, so some UI is a little different.
  20. We can consider it, but it wouldn't be increased by much.
  21. Yep, forum games do not increase post count because most posts there are extremely short.
  22. Don't double post, and maybe don't brag about breaking our policies? Might be good!
  23. Please note that it isn't Arclo who is specifically writing this one. He says other Sleepless are interested in the Radiants more. But yeah, it's referring to Dalinar.
  24. I just don't think there's enough evidence to say it is Urithiru, so I try to be careful in my claims. I feel like there definitely can be other extravagant temples and stuff way back when though.
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