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I may be able to make some voodoo to make it work on all devices, but I have to do some research.
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Hey everyone, and welcome to 2012! Welcome back to Around the Cosmere. We took a holiday break inside a cadmium bubble and now we’re back for some exciting weekly news. Your heart will melt. You may marry our weekly newscast. (17th Shard is not responsible and assumes no liability for the state of your marital relations with Around the Cosmere. But, we hear Hoid gives great relationship advice. Especially to Josh and Mi’chelle.) Here’s a rather time-critical piece of news: if you’re in Utah County, you can play Magic with Brandon tomorrow, noon, at the Utah Valley Epic Games. Take the Lehi Main exit, and go west. There will probably be a draft. Have fun, any of you who can get down there! Judging from Twitter, looks like Josh, Mi’chelle, and Zach are all going, so be sure to say hi to them. Also, since Brandon’s doing it for fun, you may want to lay off the cosmere questions. That reminds me of something else, actually. Brandon will no longer sign books with the signing instruction “Write me a cosmere clue.” Come with more specific questions. Now for some updates. Since we’ve been gone, there’s a bunch of Mythwalker chapters posted. There is just one left! There’s also a bunch of new episodes of Writing Excuses. They have switched to a system where a “Season” correspond to a year, rather than just an arbitrary number of episodes. Season six ended with (fittingly) Help! I Can’t End My Book, and season seven began with When Good Characters Go Bad and World building Flora and Fauna. The flora and fauna one is especially a revelation. Have a listen! Did you know that recently, the Kelsier short story--called The Eleventh Metal--that’s in the Mistborn Adventure Game has an excerpt posted on Brandon’s site? You have to buy the Mistborn Adventure Game to read the whole thing, but trust us when we say that the short story is well worth your $15 alone for the game’s ebook. And there’s a massive, very awesome RPG in there, too. It’s a steal. I mention the Eleventh Metal because... Awards and Voting It’s award season! Sure, there are the Hugos, which we’ll discuss in a moment. But you can vote for a few things (for free!) right now. Forum member Kelek reminded us about the 2011 Tor.com Reader’s Choice Awards! You can vote in the comments of that post right now. There are four categories: Best Novel Best Short Fiction Best Comic Best Book Cover It’s all write-in, so you can vote for whatever. But allow us to recommend what Brandon is eligible for. Best Novel: The Alloy of Law (duh) Best Short Fiction: “The Eleventh Metal” in the Mistborn Adventure Game Infinity Blade: Awakening (Note: for this category, stories must be under 40,000 words. Peter verified that Infinity Blade: Awakening is just above 39,000, so it qualifies. The more you know!) Best Book Cover: The Alloy of Law, which had its cover done by Chris McGrath. So, go ahead and vote! Also, the first round of the voting for the David Gemmel Legend Award is up, and Alloy of Law is on the list. The first round of voting ends on March 31st. Take a gander. Lastly, it’s Hugo Award nominating time. If you went to WorldCon in 2011, or you’re a member for 2012 or 2013, you can vote. (If you want to just vote, you can get a supporting membership, which are much cheaper than the attending membership.) The stuff we listed above is all eligible (that is, if you move Infinity Blade: Awakening to the Best Novella category). You can see more here, because we’re not just shills for Brandon, but also all of the Writing Excuses team, Dan Wells, Howard Tayler, and Mary Robinette Kowal. You can nominate more than one thing for each category. Book Discussions You thought we were done? Nope, there’s a metric buttload (definitely an SI unit) of forum topics that have been posted. You guys are crazy awesome. On the Mistborn side of things, we have a very careful method on how to get faster-than-light travel with the Metallic Arts. There’s a theory about the role of the peoples on the southern pole of Scadrial, and the second Mistborn Trilogy. On the Guess At the Remaining Hemalurgic Powers thread, of special note is in the more recent replies, where we discuss how the quadrants vary between magic system. There are some interesting Allomantic thought experiments. And for an idea totally out of left field, perhaps a method of how to dominate Hemalurgists with Feruchemy. I’ll admit, I don’t surf the Stormlight section as much as I should, so I miss some things. But here are some recent topics I thought were cool. Should we be suspicious of Renarin? Quite possibly! There’s a very interesting theory on the black sphere Szeth had, and its influence. Perhaps the black sphere has some Cognitive influence on its holder. And lastly, the debate on Cusicesh the Protector’s spren type (that is, the giant spren Axies sees). Interestingly enough, also deals with Cognitive links. Cosmere Theories As always, cosmere theories are typically spoiler-filled! Like book discussions, things have just exploded (and boy, I’m behind), so I’ll stick with the new topics. There are some pretty non-standard ones, which are always pretty cool to see. We have a cogent theory about the letter in the Way of Kings, which posits that the letter was written to Hoid, rather Hoid being its author.(Note that this topic was completely edited, so the first few replies deal with the old version) It’s certainly out of the norm, that’s for sure! Next there’s some ramblings about Investiture, which connects Shards, Investiture, and defines what “End-Positive” “End-Neutral” and “End-Negative” means. You’ll have to read it and make up your mind! Then we have a theory about Shardic Radiation and Genetic Magics such as the Metallic Arts, as well as AonDor. Pretty neat! And one final note. We had covered the West Jordan signing on our last newscast, but I wanted to mention perhaps the most theoretically interesting aspect of them: Now realize, we had asked Brandon a very long time ago: So, I feel we are at a quandry. I’ll sum up the arguments that have happened on the subject. One could say that the specific phrasing of the question “How many Shards have existed on Roshar” means that Odium is inherently included in the three Shards. But, there is the quote “Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken One reigns.” You could interpret that Odium (the Broken One) is not included in the three if he wasn’t native to Roshar. In which case, there’s another Shard on Roshar which hasn’t been identified. Food for thought... Other Forum Stuffs Our own member FeatherWriter must be pretty excited, because Brandon showcased this image of the Soulcaster her mom made for her for Christmas. Peter shed some light on the pewter figurines--unfortunately, they aren’t coming back. Also, I write about how you are all awesome. Thanks, guys. See you next week!
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That is one method, yes, but we don't know if, say, the Lord Ruler was able to through some other method.
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Brandon had said that, the reason why there was no Feruchemical Table at the end of Alloy of Law because it wasn't ready. He said Isaac was thinking like an Allomancer, and Feruchemy has different things, as does Hemalurgy. Like, Feruchemy doesn't have Pushing and Pulling metals. I don't know how this affects the quadrants, but things may be more different than we had previously believed.
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I believe General Theories is the proper place for this (there shouldn't be spoilers for, say, Elantris in SA forums), and that topics shouldn't be posted in multiple forums. Topic closed. Every can look at the topic here: Thank you.
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We're very professional here.
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I'm moderately concerned with the direction of this thread Hi Melia, I'm Chaos, the forum admin/webmaster. As you can see from my post count I'm on here kind of all the time. It's good to have you here! I hope you enjoy Elantris and Warbreaker. I still think it's great that he can make a single book so satisfying. As a diclaimer, I've apparently become a meme on the boards. It's all heinous lies, really
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Psh, you aren't in Montana. It was pretty clear my statement referred to what I missed in home, over here Now, come a few weeks from now, then I can go miss you Plus, you denied the fortune cookie, so we're not together. So there! (I kid, I kid)
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These things are why I love you guys. I would like to announce that I'm back in Montana, my final semester starts tomorrow, and perhaps most importantly, I really missed my dual-monitor desktop setup.
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http://gawker.com/5874304/japanese-department-store-may-want-to-look-up-the-word-storming (Content warning, if you don't like the F word, but seriously, this is hilarious)
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Regarding atium, from the Hero of Ages spoiler thread: Given what Sazed told Wax about Harmony, I personally find it unlikely that we'll see much, if any, atium. However, I'd really like to see some atium so we can know what the other atium alloys are. But I can't see how'd that even happen at the present moment. You gotta think, if the people on the southern pole have atium, Ruin would have wanted it, and I'm not sure effective those people could have protected the atium. The Lord Ruler had a lot of time to develop his gambit to protect the atium. The southern peoples wouldn't have had that benefit. Plus, there'd be a limited supply of it, as there would be no Pits on that side of the world. (I doubt there's a separate Pit on that side.) Guys, I really don't think those southern peoples are kandra. At all. The southern peoples were designed as a control group in case his modifications failed. If anything, the kandra were his most modified race. The kandra were developed as the subterranean creatures which could survive underground. If I were to keep a control of humans, I'd need some other way to protect them in case the kandra also failed, for whatever reason.
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Mistborn Adventure Game podcast interview
Chaos replied to Paco Garcia Jaen's topic in Introduce Yourself!
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Late after the Alloy release, outside the bookstore, Brandon called that quadrant the Physical metals. He said that it is not a mistake that pewter spike can steal those Feruchemical powers. (Note that Sazed said the Inquisitors get their health power--Feruchemical gold--from pewter, which I had thought was an error. Nope.)
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It was actually better, because AFTER that, Kim got a fortune cookie that said "Keep your eyes open for a special opportunity Thursday." As it was a Thursday, we pretty much died laughing.
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Great. Now I'm terrified for what will happen.
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I have no idea how they would have survived, but honestly, we don't even know how they survived without Ashmounts. All we know is that Rashek put them there as a control, so to speak, in case his alterations on humanity didn't work. Brandon's being too coy about it for them to simply die, especially considering they are referenced in the broadsheet. This is important. So... somehow, in some mysterious way, they survived. Dun dun dun. And, knowing Brandon, there will be a perfectly logical explanation for how it happened that will make us bash our heads in the wall for not seeing it coming. @Odium's Shard, don't you mean the sun destroying them? The mists were more of a food-level issue. It's the sun that did the most damage in the end.
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Right. So if Vin had lerasium, her power would increase. That atium question is definitely an important one. I'm pretty sure someone asked Brandon if atium had a side effect, like lerasium giving Allomancy is a "side effect", and that was RAFO'd hard. I personally think that there's something that atium does that we haven't discovered yet. What that could be is the million dollar question.
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This one won't blow your minds, but I was thinking, since the third trilogy is science fiction and involves going to other worlds, then I believe a major conflict in the second trilogy will be less the Set and more the people on the other side of Scadrial. Really, we can't start going to other planets until we settle that major mystery at home, right? What do you think?
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Share your puns, groan-worthy and/or hilarious, it doesn't matter! I'll start with two, but you can just post one at a time if you want. "There was a man who entered a local paper's pun contest. He sent in ten different puns, in the hope that at least one of the puns would win. Unfortunately, no pun in ten did." And one from Jess: "What do you get when you cross mountain climber with a mosquito? Nothing! You can't cross a scaler with a vector. Don't you know that?"
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Streaming? What's that? But yeah, I'm sure that's what it is. Fortunately, bandwidth isn't an issue with our host.
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Wrong, that's because of the CraftyGames interview and a very poorly audio optimized file that was way too big. The TWG archive isn't even close to that much. Maybe 100MB.
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Did you know you guys are awesome? It's true. You all are making 17th Shard so much better than I think anyone could have dreamed. It's really quite humbling how many of you spend your time here. Just how awesome are you? Well... Thanks for coming here, everyone.
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I'll talk a bit about burning lerasium (note that lerasium, like atium, is not capitalized, but that's beside the point). So, if you are already Mistborn, it enhances your Allomancy. There you go. But. Brandon told me that lerasium effectively overwrites your Spiritual DNA. There are ways to do some interesting things if you take particular precautions. So, if a Surgebinder ate lerasium, he would become Mistborn, unless he took some special steps in doing so.
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I may do some more customization and put CM9 on it, if it has some pretty compelling features. But mostly, I fixed my biggest issue with Ice Cream Sandwich (the launcher doesn't go in landscape) with Nova Launcher. Problem solved.
