Chaos

Since Brandon confirmed that Kelsier is still meddling, Kelsier is absolutely still manipulating things, in some way or form. And spikes would be a way for him to communicate even more. We don't know what he's doing, but he's doing something, that's for sure. He can never let well enough alone

I very rarely double-post, but right now, I have an especially awesome announcement. Today, the amount of posts on 17th Shard has exceeded the total size of Brandon's forums on TWG. We currently have 35189 posts, compared to the Brandon forum there which had 35173 posts. Granted, these numbers are slightly inflated, because we have off topic threads included in this count like this topic, which would have never been in the Brandon forum there. Still, guys and gals, pat yourselves on the back. This is a pretty crazy milestone since we are a little less than two years old. It's all thanks to how awesome you all are that this even continues to exist, much less be the mad success that it is. Thanks, everyone. You're all the best.

Well, obviously that would be the west wall.

That is awesome news.

I would like to announce that for the first time ever, I am moving into my own apartment. No roommates. Nothing. All mine! MUWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA! Time to put up my Table of Allomantic Metals.

That's okay! I'm gonna lock this thread now, though.

Actually, we knew that already: Also, it was posted in this news post:

Freaking awesome. Holy crap.

I theorized a long time ago in the Principle of Intent topic that if Szeth broke his word, he'd lose his powers. I definitely think that one makes sense.

Yes. But at least it isn't flash.

About two hours I'm crafting a news post about it right now. The interface isn't very good (the plugin is better on newer versions of IPB, which hopefully aren't a Java app) but it's something.

I weep for your soul.

In MBI, the way we have been handling it is that there are High Prelans for each Dominance. The Central Dominance does not explicitly have such a High Prelan, since the Lord Prelan technically is in charge of administrative responsibilities (assuming the Lord Ruler does not take an active role, but it's pretty clear that he's fairly inactive most times). But, he does have a sort of subordinate which directly deals with more Central Dominance issues. -------------- Hey everyone. I would just like to apologize for my extreme crappiness in updating the Ultimate List. That's all my bad. As such, I'm turning over control of the List to the amazing and illustrious Windrunner, who will be curating the List from now on. Also, the List is going to go through some changes to be much more readable and useful.

You don't have to use the mobile site, you know, if you're on a smartphone. I certainly never use it on my Galaxy Nexus.

Sorry for not responding to you quicker, I really wanted to know, but was very distracted with people coming into town and haven't been super active online. Okay, so, first of all, he obviously had no right to get angry at Abby because he wanted to try and have a relationship with her and she said no. It happens. Either there's chemistry or there's not. There's nothing he can do about it. But sure, I'm positive that him yelling at Abby and calling her names will totally make him more appealing. Works every time! So, even if you didn't know Abby at all, he's already acting like a total jerk. He's also just being a jerk to you. Even if he really did love her, he could have at least been honest about to you. I'd be a lot more receptive (though still apprehensive) to someone saying to me "I really love her, please just let me have this one shot" with a girl I had history with than him not telling me at all. There's a lot better ways he could have done this to be more respectful to you. Though, it seems his "one shot" failed pretty spectacularly. So now he managed to basically be a dick to every party involved. Woo pure selfishness, I guess. Also, what the crap? "I'm still in love with her, so now I can't be friends with you, either?" Okay, it's one thing for things to be awkward with the item of your unrequited affection. That's a given. But him taking it up on you is something else entirely, because he could have tried to make amends with you. It'd have been so easy for him to say that he at least wanted to try. I suppose this largely depends on what history you had with Abby, of course, but still, he definitely could've made amends. If he went behind your back for a shot at romance, it failed, and he apologized to you, I'd be mad at him for a little while for doing that, but I'd forgive him eventually. But hey, I'm a romantic. The fact of the matter is that he obviously doesn't care enough about you or her. This really isn't love when it's all very self-centered like that. Maybe he'll get over it in a month or two. In fact, I think that could be a possibility. But at the end of the day, don't be sad if someone like that doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Loyalty is not something inherent that you need to abide by. Definitely try to talk to him, try to be polite, and maybe he will respond to that and eventually come back to reality. But, if he doesn't, don't beat yourself up over it. It hurts to stop talking to an old friend like that, I know, but stick to people who actually care about your well-being, not people that you've been around the longest. I'd like to announce that I am back on the internet much more consistently now, so you get much more Chaos's Relationship Advice Train™, now with much more unpredictability, and possibly spikes. Oh, who am I kidding. There will definitely be spikes.

I don't have really anything to add except that I love this. This is a very realistic possibility.

I personally feel that articles about magic and other things of that sort are acceptable for present tense, however. We have not formally determined our style guide yet, though.

Okay, about the whole “what is Awakening” thing, you guys are thinking way too hard about things. We are talking about the magic system, not how people get Breath or Spiritual power in the first place. That’s something else. Allomancy’s nature as “end-positive” has pretty much nothing to do with how the fragments of Preservation gets inside people so they can use Allomancy. Likewise, how Breath is obtained at birth is ultimately irrelevant to classifying Awakening’s status here. Magic is about an action. It is a mortal using a Cognitive action to, presumably, affect a transition between the Realms (Spiritual to Physical, for example). And in order for a mortal to use these powers, they need a focus. In Awakening’s case, the focus are the Commands. So, anything that doesn’t involve Commands isn’t actually Awakening in the proper, strict sense. I’m uncertain whether we can call the gaining of Breath at birth “end positive” or anything; the terms may not apply in any capacity for that. As far as we know, these classifications apply to magics. Anything else is definitely stretching it, in my opinion. Anyway, with that rant over, what is Awakening? I’m fairly compelled by the argument of it not being end-positive, since it isn’t drawing upon an external source, so I’m leaning more to end-neutral. After all, in Feruchemy, you can draw upon parts of your Spiritual aspect, and it’s still end-neutral. Why couldn’t Awakening draw upon your Breath in the same way? After all, for most Awakening, that Breath still exists. Except for Nightblood, and I’m not totally sure where that fits in. We also have to accept that the Seventeenth Sharder who was talking about the different “ends” may be making arbitrary, in-universe distinctions that may not be as clear-cut as they are with the Metallic Arts.

Yeah, sorry, there don't exist subforums for that. Dragonsteel is definitely off limits for General Theories, and for two reasons (aside from the whole "better than thou" thing, of course): 1. It's technically not canonical just yet, until it's officially published. I'm sure a lot will change from this version to the next. 2. We just feel it's better for General Theories to only have publicly available information. We can talk about Midius being Hoid because that's from the Liar of Partinel sample chapters, but Dragonsteel is absolutely not available for everyone to read. I'd be uncomfortable with spoiling an unpublished book to people, you know? Does that make sense?

Dislike. What happened? I would like to announce that I've graduated college! And with my first 4.0 for college, too.

This discussion is not relevant to the topic at hand. Please move it to PMs.

I loved the Avengers. I think Tony Stark got the most funny lines. He was awesome. But on the same token, it wasn't as if he stole the show. I thought everybody got some good character development and moments. I agree with you, Ellen, that Black Widow was much better here than Iron Man 2. I honestly don't remember much of Iron Man 2 because it was pretty mediocre, but Black Widow was much clearer--and better--of a character here. She was awesome. The movie was just ridiculously, ridiculously fun. I loved laughing so much. I loved Captain America's unconquerable honesty and... team spirit, I guess? Every character came across so excellently. Seeing the interplay with everyone was amazing. I didn't notice the thing about Hulk at the end, Ellen, but that's probably because Hulk so epically kicked butt that I didn't care. Overall, I loved it. I'm definitely seeing this one again in theaters.

Hmmm. This is tricky thing to define what is and isn't a stub. We haven't quite defined explicitly what it is, but mostly, at the moment we just sort of flag it as such when we see it. I'm trying to think of a working definition. Probably a working definition of a non-stub would be: 1. Reasonably complete or informative: An article that contains most necessary information on the subject. 2. Subheadings: The article at hand has at least two subheadings (ie, any article that is a wall of text is a stub). I think both conditions go hand-in-hand: if your article doesn't have enough subheadings, you probably didn't delve into the subject deep enough, right? In the case of the Human article, by this definition (which, mind you, I totally made up right now), it needs a second subheading. It just needs more info about his role in Mistborn 3. EDIT: By the way, this is a great article. Thank you sooo much for editing