Shardcast: History of Roshar Part 2

This week on Shardcast, we're talking about the time on Roshar after the Last Desolation. We talk about the Recreance, the False Desolation, and beyond! And of course, whether lurnips are related to curnips. Just what you wanted. 

We have Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), Grace (thegatorgirl), and Joshua (jofwu). Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]


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Child of Hodor

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Odium's prison:

The Stormfather references Honor and Cultivation as an analog for the Oathpact. The Fused are the prisoners of the Oathpact but they never agreed to it. The Oathpact is between the Heralds and Honor. The Fused are released when one of the parties breaks their Oath Honor or one of the Heralds on Braize (9 Heralds on Roshar refusing to return to Braize is a loophole because no one considered that they'd ever not be on Braize when the Oathpact was agreed to). 

What if Honor and Cultivation made a pact with each other that trapped Odium? Only one party needs to break the pact for it to fall apart. Honor or his remnants can break the pact by themselves because there are only two parties to the contract.  

I always assumed Odium was trapped by some agreement he made because he was afraid of getting wounded in a 2 on 1 battle after Ambition hurt him, but maybe that's not necessary. 

Edited by Child of Hodor

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I figure that when the Heralds broke the oathpact (a very dishonorable act), Honor/Tanavast was somehow harmed by this. He presumably had Invested in them quite a bit, so perhaps this act (which was very against his Intent) somehow took enough of his power away as with Preservation binding Ruin and started him on the path to death. A couple thousand years later he was rambling on about humans destroying the planet during the Recreance and Tanavast died shortly after.

Perhaps Odium wasn't responsible for Tanavast's death (at least directly), but simply took advantage of that afterwards and splintered the Shard. The claim that he was killed by Odium at the end of the Way of Kings might have been more metaphorical (as the torturings on Braize by his people drove the Heralds to break the oathpact).

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On the subject of the Shin invasion, while the Shin do seem peaceful and probably have a lower population, remember that the most feared warriors and most successful conquerors on Earth (before the age of exploration) were the Mongols, horsepeople from the plains (which we know exist in Shinovar) who just showed up in small numbers and literally slayed. At one point they even sent a threatening letter to the Pope.

Also, I would like to point out that the clues for the first Who's That Cosmere Character work shockingly well for Hoid in drag on a horse.

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