samsocial Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Why Vasher leaves in end? It is still unsure if stone soldiers would succeed the battle. Plus he has so much knowledge about breath, He knows how to gives breaths without giving the life breath. why not share that with other gods or god king staying in city? Why not help with peace between 2 nations/states ? What is more important than this ?
Frustration Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 The last time he gave people commands like that it causes the manywar. Yesteel is doing something, and he knows type IV commands
Weltall Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Vasher is rather keen to avoid repeating the mistakes of his past. Sharing his knowledge could cause another struggle for supremacy on the same level as the Manywar. We know from WoB that if Yesteel got involved it would end very badly for everybody, so not giving anybody the motivation to start a war and checking out what Yesteel's up to are both really good ideas. 10 hours ago, samsocial said: He knows how to gives breaths without giving the life breath. This isn't a secret only he knows, everyone who has enough Breath to dabble in Awakening does something similar subconsciously when they use only as much Breath as they need to Awaken something, instead of using all their Breaths. Certain people in Hallandren know how to do the Returned-specific version as well, because we know that when one God King passes on their Breath store to their successor, they keep their Divine Breath and are allowed to live out their lives peacefully, removed from the court Brandon has confirmed this was a true statement from Treledees.
samsocial Posted November 9, 2021 Author Posted November 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Frustration said: The last time he gave people commands like that it causes the manywar. Then isn't it more responsible to stay back and see what he has given to people is put to good use ?
Frustration Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 5 hours ago, samsocial said: Then isn't it more responsible to stay back and see what he has given to people is put to good use ? He still has to deal with Yesteel.
samsocial Posted November 9, 2021 Author Posted November 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Frustration said: He still has to deal with Yesteel. why seek him? why not stay in city , prepare and wait ?
Frustration Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, samsocial said: why seek him? why not stay in city , prepare and wait ? Yesteel can make a new Nightblood.
Ironwill2112 he/him Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Also... Spoiler We know he leaves and goes to Roshar with Vivenna.
Honorless he/him Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 A better question would be what is so important that Vasher would choose to stay? There's nothing tying him back. People he was close to and had unfinished business with (the Five Scholars) are mostly dead. The last time he helped, it started the Manywar. The next instance of his help involved having to kill his own wife for the greater good. Beyond that, staying meant consuming Breaths and that has to weigh on one's mind. That particular issue is further exacerbated with Nightblood, who consumes many Breaths with every use. Leaving for somewhere which has abundant free Investiture seems morally better. There's nothing to hold him back and there's reason for him to want to leave. 1
+robardin he/him Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 3:04 PM, Weltall said: ...we know that when one God King passes on their Breath store to their successor, they keep their Divine Breath and are allowed to live out their lives peacefully, removed from the court Brandon has confirmed this was a true statement from Treledees. Well, if the God King passes on Peacegiver's Treasure to the next God King and then "lives out their life" somewhere, that implies the former GK is still supplied - in secret - with the "one breath per week" a Returned needs to survive, until such time as that one gives up their Divine Breath. With Treledees and all the other priests slaughtered in the Pahn Kahl rebellion from within the Court of Gods, who's going to know where these "secret Returned who need upkeep" are? Maybe the previous God King isn't around any more anyway? Dying of "Breath starvation" due to nobody knowing their situation would be rather anticlimactic for someone who was once revered as a living god.
Frustration Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, robardin said: Well, if the God King passes on Peacegiver's Treasure to the next God King and then "lives out their life" somewhere, that implies the former GK is still supplied - in secret - with the "one breath per week" a Returned needs to survive, until such time as that one gives up their Divine Breath. With Treledees and all the other priests slaughtered in the Pahn Kahl rebellion from within the Court of Gods, who's going to know where these "secret Returned who need upkeep" are? Maybe the previous God King isn't around any more anyway? Dying of "Breath starvation" due to nobody knowing their situation would be rather anticlimactic for someone who was once revered as a living god. They have some other Priest higher ups out on those Islands. 1
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