samsocial Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 For Adolin's trial honorsprens choose Kalak as High Judge. Why honorsprens still repect Harards when they have broken oaths and caused killings of their species ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Welcome to the Shard The Heralds did not cause the Recreance. As for why they respect them despite of their broken oaths, I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 TL;DR: Opportunity. They were the Chosen of Honor himself, and are still semi-divine in the sense of being at least as much Spren as human after all these years of being Cognitive Shadows. That's probably enough for some Spren to hold them in high regard (or pretend to for their own uses). But Spren are a diverse people even within the different spren races, as RoW really showed off. That particular herald being both reasonably functional and reasonably tractable probably made it a lot easier for certain spren to keep him on a pedestal. They almost certainly would not have vernerated Jezrien the same way in his final days, even though he had more direct connections to the Honorspren & Windrunners, historically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipz1 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Heralds came far before the recreance. They broke the oathpact that's true, but I doubt the spren care too much about that considering they weren't concerned with the occupation of cultivations perpendicularly Humans broke their oaths and harmed other spren. That's mainly what they're concerned about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Phlipz1 said: Heralds came far before the recreance. They broke the oathpact that's true, but I doubt the spren care too much about that considering they weren't concerned with the occupation of cultivations perpendicularly Humans broke their oaths and harmed other spren. That's mainly what they're concerned about I think it's a fallacy to treat them as any sort of monolithic society (or any SA race really, as that seems to be a central theme). We have already seen division within just the Honorspren, and know that several other Radiant spren defied their people to Bond. Just like we now know the opinions of the Singers and even the Fused themselves can vary quite a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) The honorspren at least would not mind the broken oath as much as the work Kelek had done in the past. Self sacrifice would probably appeal to them and they are less bothered by human failings. Additionally humans regard the Heralds as paragons of honorable behavoir so that might play a role. I imagine the highspren are somewhat less pleased, the inkspren would view them as useful sources of information, and the stonespren would try and give them pep talks. Welcome. Edited October 4, 2021 by Karger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Karger said: The honorspren at least would not mind the broken oath as much as the work Kelek had done in the past. Self sacrifice would probably appeal to them and they are less bothered by human failings. Additionally humans regard the Heralds as paragons of honorable behavoir so that might play a role. I imagine the highspren are somewhat less pleased, the inkspren would view them as useful sources of information, and the stonespren would try and give them pep talks. Welcome. Im not so sure, given that the Highspren still support Nale and have continuously. Assuming they even know about the Herald's betrayal of Taln at all, which I dont think is common knowledge even among the spren. I think the general assumption is that the Heralds were damaged by Honor's death, not by their own choices. The Big Bad Betrayal that seems to define spren politics is the Human's betrayal at the Recreance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsocial Posted October 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 What were Haralds before becoming Harads ? Human ? If yes, then why they have different set of rules after breaking oathpact ? only because they are immortal now and were give god-like status ? If no, why they choose to live in Human form ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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