Quick Fix 55: Battle of Traitors

[Mat he/him]

Ironsides stared down her crew as they arrived. It wasn't as many as expected, but they should be more than capable of taking down the few Krell ships approaching. Ironsides read off their Callsigns to herself as they prepared their ships, knowing that if some didn't return it would make it that more painful. She didn't care. If she were sending pilots into battle- any battle, even this small one- she wanted to know who they were, what they looked like.

Maximum, Vandal, Lemon... Pegleg, Fib, Ghost... Steel, Bad Wolf, and Impostor. Ironsides thought. Huh. She didn't recognize that last one.

It should have been the first clue. But Ironsides was still in a strange mindset from the Krell's odd attack. So she dismissed the thought.

And up went Shard Flight.

She tapped into their comm line, raising an eyebrow at the radio playing alongside it, though said nothing. All flight members reported in, heading for the Krell in formation. The aliens were far out, long past the base. It took the ships a decent amount of time to reach them.

Ironsides was satisfied by how quickly they overtook the Krell. She relaxed. Guess I was worried for nothing.

Then screams filled her headset. She sat up, alert. "Ghost is down!" someone yelled.

"By who!" barked Ironsides, phrased as a command and not a question.

"By Impostor... oh." the same pilot responded. "Scud. Hold on, Admiral." After a few tense moments, the pilot spoke. "I got them. But how could this happen?"

Ironsides knew. Oh, she knew all too well.

"The Krell have hidden among our ranks." She said, voice uncharacteristically weak. "They never fly alone. Impostor wasn't the only... impostor."

She forced her voice to firm up. "But we better make sure that Ghost is the only casualty."

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Callsign: Ghost has died! They were a DDF Pilot and an NPC!

Callsign: Impostor has died! They were a Krell Commander and an NPC!

The game has begun! The cycle will end in a bit over 24 hours, on Friday, August 27th at 8:00am PST.

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Player List:

Spoiler

1. @The Unknown Order - Maxwell Sub (Callsign: Maximum)
2. @Lotus - S.T.A.R Radio
3. @Devotary of Spontaneity - Velveteen (Callsign: Vandal)
4. @Elkanah - Luke Cana (Callsign: Lemon)
5. @Archer - Peggy Flamingo (Callsign: Pegleg)
6. @Droughtbringer - Trey Tansten (Callsign: Fib)
7. @Steeldancer - (Callsign: Steel)
8. @Elandera - (Callsign: Bad Wolf)

 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Maximum flew upwards with his fighter. He'd make them pay for Ghost. He had been the one to fire at Impostor, but he'd take it one step further, no, a whole flight further. He wouldn't stop until the krell were rubble on the ground.

And he'd start with Bad Wolf, that name was almost as obvious as Impostor. Well, after today, there would be no wolf among the sheep.

[Archer he/him]

My fan theory is that Callsign Imposter is the result of an alien Google Translate glitch. I'm sure in the original Krell it's a much more nuanced, clever joke that they thought the hoomans would never pick up on. 

I assume there's two elims, per usual with eight players. With the coinshot role, this game could be over after two rounds. So, I propose we all roleclaim.
-The Sniper (Coinshot) and Light Lance Expert (Thug) are certainly village. There are distribution scenarios that could accommodate an elim with those roles, but they rely on unusual role distribution among villagers that we'll be able to pick up on if everyone claims. When claiming on of these, please just say you're one of the two roles, not which one specifically. Because there's a 50% chance you're a Thug, this will make night killing you unappealing, so you'll probably be fine. I'm not sure if these roles will even be included with the low player count, but there's certainly only one of each if they are, so fake claimers will be obvious.
-The Flightleader (Rioter) is likely village if there's no Thug and Coinshot, but could go either way otherwise. There could be multiple, in which case, I think it'd be a good elim role. Mat puts some heavy limitations on the elim team, and because he can't give them an extra person to compensate in an eight person game, he'll have buffed them some other way. Being able to secretly add a vote is pretty solid, and it's even balanced by the elims' inability to coordinate how they'll use it (no doc = a more difficult time messing with the exe, especially around hammer time). If the people with this role claim, I'd ask that they declare who they'll be targeting. We can check the votes the next day to see if they did it, or if they actually submitted the elim kill.
-IMP Superstar (I dunno what the mistborn equivalent is) is also a decent elim role because it's unexpected. An elim one could say block the Rioter and frame them, which would mess all of this up. It is provable, but at the expense of it blocks someone, so personal preference is that this person blocks people without provable roles in hopes of stopping an elim kill. There could be multiple of this role, in which case again, probably one of them is evil.
-Scouts (Tineye or somethin) are only useful for the village in a game this short. Again, Mat could give the elims one to be trolly, but I feel like he'd then also throw in a village one so the role would actually see some use. They should scan and hope to catch the kill. They have some limited potential around verifying roles, but it's up to them to set that up right.
-Vanillas (skaa) are a role. I suspect three or so of us are roleless. Probably an elim in that group. Elims could also fakeclaim the role, but Scouts discourage that. Mass claiming tells us if it's role madness or not.
Anyway, since most of the roles are either hard to fake claim or provable, if we coordinate this right, we can narrow down who could submit the elim kill today, and look at that group tomorrow as prime suspects. Claiming also clues us in to any unexpected distribution choices that were made.

So who wants to go for it? 

-I have thoughts on how to read the elim kill, but I would prefer to save that discussion for tomorrow so the elims can't signal their thoughts to each other when deciding who to shoot today.

-I too like Dr Who references! Bad Wolf

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

3 hours ago, Archer said:

I assume there's two elims, per usual with eight players. With the coinshot role, this game could be over after two rounds. So, I propose we all roleclaim.
-The Sniper (Coinshot) and Light Lance Expert (Thug) are certainly village. There are distribution scenarios that could accommodate an elim with those roles, but they rely on unusual role distribution among villagers that we'll be able to pick up on if everyone claims.
-The Flightleader (Rioter) is likely village if there's no Thug and Coinshot, but could go either way otherwise. There could be multiple, in which case, I think it'd be a good elim role. Mat puts some heavy limitations on the elim team, and because he can't give them an extra person to compensate in an eight person game, he'll have buffed them some other way. Being able to secretly add a vote is pretty solid, and it's even balanced by the elims' inability to coordinate how they'll use it (no doc = a more difficult time messing with the exe, especially around hammer time). If the people with this role claim, I'd ask that they declare who they'll be targeting. We can check the votes the next day to see if they did it, or if they actually submitted the elim kill.
-IMP Superstar (I dunno what the mistborn equivalent is) is also a decent elim role because it's unexpected. An elim one could say block the Rioter and frame them, which would mess all of this up. It is provable, but at the expense of it blocks someone, so personal preference is that this person blocks people without provable roles in hopes of stopping an elim kill. There could be multiple of this role, in which case again, probably one of them is evil.
-Scouts (Tineye or somethin) are only useful for the village in a game this short. Again, Mat could give the elims one to be trolly, but I feel like he'd then also throw in a village one so the role would actually see some use. They should scan and hope to catch the kill. They have some limited potential around verifying roles, but it's up to them to set that up right.
-Vanillas (skaa) are a role. I suspect three or so of us are roleless. Probably an elim in that group. Elims could also fakeclaim the role, but Scouts discourage that. Mass claiming tells us if it's role madness or not.
Anyway, since most of the roles are either hard to fake claim or provable, if we coordinate this right, we can narrow down who could submit the elim kill today, and look at that group tomorrow as prime suspects. Claiming also clues us in to any unexpected distribution choices that were made.

So who wants to go for it? 

-I have thoughts on how to read the elim kill, but I would prefer to save that discussion for tomorrow so the elims can't signal their thoughts to each other when deciding who to shoot today.

Two elims sure. There absolutely doesn't have to be any of any role. I'd say it's likely that some roles are not present. I would not rule out elim Sniper or Lance, especially if the second elim is roleless. The extra kill especially would be helpful since the odds of them being able to kill someone are: six villagers, four submissions, someone only dies if they get two votes; elim 2 guessing randomly has a 1/3 chance to match with their first vote and a 2/5 chance with their second vote, so a 60% chance of killing someone overall?

The elims can submit a kill and use a role action simultaneously, hence "This targets both the elim kill and any other action that elim might be taking". The elims may well choose to have a roleless player submit the kill so as to avoid getting outed by scouts, but we can't guarantee that since being seen targeting someone who dies is already strong grounds for execution.

IMP and Flightleader are decent roles for the elims if they don't have one of the first two. Scout would still get one use for the elims, which would mostly be helpful for not hitting a village Lance, but probably is better for the village. Overall probably only one elim role and one roleless but I don't think we can guess which role that is.

[Mat he/him]

I forgot to mention that the elim win condition was changed from outnumbering to conditional parity- that is, if the elims have parity and the village does not have a way to win, the elims win.

[Archer he/him]

Okay now I'm confused. 

Looking at the rules, I think you're right, Devo, that submitting the kill doesn't take an action. Which makes me wonder, what happens if someone uses a block or scan on someone submitting the kill while also doing another action? Would they see/stop both? Edit: thanks Mat, can I get a ruling on this part too? @Matrim's Dice

And I'd assumed that the overlap in votes thing wasn't necessary to cause a kill. I thought if the elims submit all different names, then the kill would be RNGed from that set of elims with one vote on them. There's an auto kill function if no kills are submitted, so I imagine we're never going to not have a kill. Right, Mat? @Matrim's Dice

And win at parity means in a straight game, we might go 6:2, 4:2, 2:2 (lose), but say if the elims have vote manipand we miss with a sniper shot, we might go 6:2, 3:2 (lose). Could also go 6:2, 4:2, 2:2 (continue) if we have more vote manip though, so that's nice. 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Archer

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Archer said:

And I'd assumed that the overlap in votes thing wasn't necessary to cause a kill. I thought if the elims submit all different names, then the kill would be RNGed from that set of elims with one vote on them. There's an auto kill function if no kills are submitted, so I imagine we're never going to not have a kill. Right, Mat? @Matrim's Dice

The elim's kill vote does have a minimum of two, so if every name submitted is different there won't be a kill.

[Steeldancer he/him]

Hiii I have a great proposition for this game

Let's actually try to lynch an elim this time instead of getting completely wiped. 

Now that I've put that out there, I'm gonna vote elkanah , because I've never played with them before and I'd like to see how they react to a poke vote. 

[Mat he/him]

1 hour ago, Archer said:

what happens if someone uses a block or scan on someone submitting the kill while also doing another action? Would they see/stop both? Edit: thanks Mat, can I get a ruling on this part too? @Matrim's Dice

Whoops. From the rules:

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Scout: Once per cycle, watch to see who a player targets. This targets both the elim kill and any other action that elim might be taking.

IMP Superstar: Once per cycle, block a player from taking an action. This targets both the elim kill and any other action that elim might be taking.

So that's a yes.

[+Lotus she/her]

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[Elkanah he/him]

Lemon looked around. Ghost was suddenly very quiet. Uncharacteristic, Ghost was usually quite chatty. Especially when he got nervous and he had definitely been nervous a few minutes ago. Lemon puckered his lips thoughtfully.

Suddenly, S.T.A.R Radio started playing a great tune over the radio! Lemon puckered his lips in enjoyment as the last Krell ship plummeted out of the sky to some sweet tunes. Lemon Squinted to follow its trajectory until it was just a little grey blur. This was far before it reached the ground, but Lemon was confident the Krell had, in fact, been shot down. He puckered his lips in triumph.

Two other ships swooped around and looked to be aiming for Lemon! Traitors! They shot and Lemon did his best to evade, shooting (and missing) what he was fairly certain was a nearby piece of debris with his light-line. Luckily they weren't even aiming in his general direction. He heard Maximum give a positive kill on Imposter over the radio. That was odd. Lemon puckered his lips in consternation. Lemon wasn't particularly fond of Imposter, but it didn't seem right to shoot him out of the sky. And where was Ghost? Surely he had something to say about it.

Lemon puckered his lips, concerned. Ghost had always been chatty but kind. Lemon squinted to turn down the music S.T.A.R Radio was playing, and tried to catch up on what was happening. He puckered his lips in concentration as he squinted to try to pick Ghost's ship out in the falling debris.

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OOC:

Well done, Maximum, for bringing down a traitor! I'm now relying on you to do it again... Then again, maybe it's a bit early to vote Bad Wolf out of the game. I'm'a wait for her to at least show up.

9 hours ago, Archer said:

My fan theory is that Callsign Imposter is the result of an alien Google Translate glitch. I'm sure in the original Krell it's a much more nuanced, clever joke that they thought the hoomans would never pick up on. 

I assume there's two elims, per usual with eight players. With the coinshot role, this game could be over after two rounds. So, I propose we all roleclaim.
-The Sniper (Coinshot) and Light Lance Expert (Thug) are certainly village. There are distribution scenarios that could accommodate an elim with those roles, but they rely on unusual role distribution among villagers that we'll be able to pick up on if everyone claims. When claiming on of these, please just say you're one of the two roles, not which one specifically. Because there's a 50% chance you're a Thug, this will make night killing you unappealing, so you'll probably be fine. I'm not sure if these roles will even be included with the low player count, but there's certainly only one of each if they are, so fake claimers will be obvious.
-The Flightleader (Rioter) is likely village if there's no Thug and Coinshot, but could go either way otherwise. There could be multiple, in which case, I think it'd be a good elim role. Mat puts some heavy limitations on the elim team, and because he can't give them an extra person to compensate in an eight person game, he'll have buffed them some other way. Being able to secretly add a vote is pretty solid, and it's even balanced by the elims' inability to coordinate how they'll use it (no doc = a more difficult time messing with the exe, especially around hammer time). If the people with this role claim, I'd ask that they declare who they'll be targeting. We can check the votes the next day to see if they did it, or if they actually submitted the elim kill.
-IMP Superstar (I dunno what the mistborn equivalent is) is also a decent elim role because it's unexpected. An elim one could say block the Rioter and frame them, which would mess all of this up. It is provable, but at the expense of it blocks someone, so personal preference is that this person blocks people without provable roles in hopes of stopping an elim kill. There could be multiple of this role, in which case again, probably one of them is evil.
-Scouts (Tineye or somethin) are only useful for the village in a game this short. Again, Mat could give the elims one to be trolly, but I feel like he'd then also throw in a village one so the role would actually see some use. They should scan and hope to catch the kill. They have some limited potential around verifying roles, but it's up to them to set that up right.
-Vanillas (skaa) are a role. I suspect three or so of us are roleless. Probably an elim in that group. Elims could also fakeclaim the role, but Scouts discourage that. Mass claiming tells us if it's role madness or not.
Anyway, since most of the roles are either hard to fake claim or provable, if we coordinate this right, we can narrow down who could submit the elim kill today, and look at that group tomorrow as prime suspects. Claiming also clues us in to any unexpected distribution choices that were made.

So who wants to go for it? 

-I have thoughts on how to read the elim kill, but I would prefer to save that discussion for tomorrow so the elims can't signal their thoughts to each other when deciding who to shoot today.

-I too like Dr Who references! Bad Wolf

Distributions are tricky and I've never successfully guessed one. I don't think we'd have any snipers, but who knows. Maybe we have five light-lance experts and three snipers. That would be a game!

I don't generally like the "everyone claim at the beginning" strategy. It would reveal role madness akin to what I described, but I like the feeling of prying information from cold, dead eliminator fingers. By all means, I'd love to know what you are, but I don't think I'm going share until I've solved the game.

It is still up for debate whether information helps the village or the eliminators more, but with the added spinciness of no elim doc, I'm keen to keep the info away from them.

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That's all the time I have for right now. I'll finish responding to everyone in a couple hours Sorry Steel

Sorry for being so lurky for the first few hours. There will be more lurking tomorrow while I am at work, but after that, I will be all over this game.

 

[Archer he/him]

Peggy was on her ship comms, placing a call to STAR radio. She listened impatiently to the automated voicemail response, then left a brief message.

"Heyy, big fan of the show. I'm a young pilot with skyhigh dreams. Could you guys play 'Crushing On U' by Go To Krell and dedicate it to the cute DDF pilot with the curly brown hair for me? Thanks a million. Byee!"

*

It's looking like this game has more possibilities than I first thought. My previous analysis was fairly faulty. I think in practice, the odds of a successful kill are going to be higher than they are based on random choice, because certain candidates will be preferable to others, so I'm not convinced they'll have a Sniper, but I think it's a possibility. Same with Thug, to combat a Sniper. I doubt they're e-e, but it's not worth claimings just to get two non-e-e people.

Speaking of claiming though, I'll go ahead and say I am your fearless flight leader. In addition to my current vote, I have placed one on Steeldancer. They're in the middle of my null reads and village reads. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who is being read as what, but I'm going to avoid reads lists this game because I think they could be used to signal kill suggestions. Best to focus on the evil folk

Edited August 27, 2021 by Archer

[Elandera she/her]

Bad Wolf careened onto the flight deck. "I'm here. I'm here." She was breathless after her dash all the way from her quarters. Not that it was terribly far, but she was a pilot, not part of the ground troops. "Sorry. I got caught up in a few projects. Didn't hear the alert. Scud. Am I too late?"

One of the crew members waved her toward her Poco. "Bad Wolf. Your flight is waiting!"

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Seriously, though, sorry it took me so long to check in. I started a 24 hour writing marathon last night, then had a video to edit. My eyes are tired of looking at screens, since I've started at one for upwards of 20 hours in the last 36. 

I'm just gonna claim now (sorry Matrim, but your RNG has continued my curse and I don't feel like going through what I've been through in the past). I'm a light-lance expert, aka The Thug. If you really want to exe me, that's fine, but it'll be a waste of a good D1 exe. I'd suggest you be certain of my wolfiness before wasting an exe and an extra village life. Especially in such a small game.

@Archer, I'm glad you appreciate the reference. However, your wagon vote with TUO seems a bit odd. Archer

 

[Archer he/him]

2 hours ago, Elandera said:

I'm just gonna claim now 

what

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I'm a light-lance expert, aka The Thug. 

what

They're real? 

Oo this just got interesting. My initial reaction was you'd fallen into the claim trap, but I think you're claiming to avoid the exe, not to e!engage with a bad strat, which explains why you would go for it, despite being against mass roleclaims usually. I'll call it NAI. So it comes down to do I believe you're a Thug, and do I believe that's a village role. Yes and maybe. That posts reads true to me. But it implies the existence of a e!sniper or e!vote manip or e!Thug or something to balance with the unreliable kill. We'll unpack that later! 

I'm almost tempted to leave the vote on Elandera because I wouldn't mind another kick at the can. The NK isn't certain so the elims need mixes, so hitting a Thug isn't a terrible outcome. Thoughts, @The Unknown Order? But for now, I think I'll move my votes fully onto Steel. 

Elandera Steeldancer 

 

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

Everyone's shown up except for Droughtbringer, but very few posts. It's like we're already several cycles into the game and nobody knows what to do anymore. The elims don't get a doc, but I still think Archer would have known how the kill worked as an elim. I don't think Elandera's Lance claim is super trustworthy, but a villager would be more threatened by two votes than an elim and we'll be able to see by next cycle if anyone counterclaims her.

Elkanah hasn't come back I see. More substantive in the one post than TUO or Lotus, but not evil I'm thinking. Steeldancer had the worst tonal post, especially now that elkanah has shown up after being poked, so I'll vote for him.

[Archer he/him]

9 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Everyone's shown up except for Drought

I'll summon him. 

X

(that's a press X to drought joke) 

10 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Steeldancer had the worst tonal post, especially now that elkanah has shown up after being poked, so I'll vote for him.

I'd like to give Steeldancer a fair chance, so I'm actually going to move my second vote onto myself. It's now a two-two tie. I've bribed the Gods of Luck and Chance with maple donuts, so I'll probably survive, but it's still delightfully uncertain! 

[Elkanah he/him]

Yeah sorry. I was entertaining guests and it went a few hours later than I expected. 

I didn't find Steel's poke vote especially egregious. (Insert meme of being stabbed here). I think I'll bring it to a tie. And the random gods say: bad wolf

(I just realized I rolled for three people. It would have been awkward if they had chosen me)

 

Edit: oops I wasn't counting archer twice.... Oh. No this works

Edited August 27, 2021 by Elkanah

[Mat he/him]

Time!

[Mat he/him]

Maximum, the Flight's Scout, had already been shot from behind and no one quite knew who had done it.

Ironsides liked to think that she never relaxed, not truly. To her it was a mark of a true soldier and commander, always on guard, ready for anything. She found today, however, that perhaps she was typically more relaxed than she had thought.

Ironsides listened to the comm line in silence, tapping her foot in nervous anticipation. The other Krell among Shard Flight would attack on a moments notice, which made flying back to the base not an option. Besides, Ironsides did not want Krell in Alta. She shivered at the realization that there already had been. Well, no more. 

Finally, she came to the point where she couldn't stand the silence. "Status?" she barked into the line.

Steel, Flightleader, reported in first. "Unsure, Admiral. We have to be pretty careful who we kill, as it'd be a shame to lose one of our own. More of our own."

Someone else interrupted. "Steel, everyone knows that. Why don't you stop stating the obvious and help us figure it out?"

Ironsides was at a loss as an argument erupted. But nothing could have prepared her for a bang, and then a true silence.

"...Admiral?" a weak voice on the line said. "Steel's dead."

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Steeldancer was exed! He was a Flightleader!

The Unknown Order was killed! They were a Scout!

Vote Count:

• Elandera (2): The Unknown Order, Elkanah
• Elkanah (1): Steeldancer
• Archer (1): Elandera
• Steeldancer (2): Archer, Devotary of Spontaneity

This cycle will end in a little under 24 hours, on Saturday, August 28 at 8am PST.

• There will be a majority execution today, with no vote minimum. Tied votes will result in a random decision.
• PMs are closed for the duration of the game.
• Don't forget to submit your actions!
• There is an inactivity filter in place of two cycles. @Droughtbringer, if you do not post this turn you will be replaced or killed.

Player List:

Spoiler

1. The Unknown Order - Maxwell Sub (Callsign: Maximum) - Scout
2. @Lotus - S.T.A.R Radio
3. @Devotary of Spontaneity - Velveteen (Callsign: Vandal)
4. @Elkanah - Luke Cana (Callsign: Lemon)
5. @Archer - Peggy Flamingo (Callsign: Pegleg)
6. @Droughtbringer - Trey Tansten (Callsign: Fib)
7. Steeldancer - (Callsign: Steel) - Flightleader
8. @Elandera - (Callsign: Bad Wolf)

 

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

So it looks like Archer was lying about being a Flightleader.

[Archer he/him]

16 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

So it looks like Archer was lying about being a Flightleader.

Or I was just lying about voting for myself. 

I believe this hard clears Drought, unless it's a three person elim team. You can't get the two vote minimum for the elim kill if one of them is inactive. 

Devo, why weren't you NKed? 

[Devotary of Spontaneity]

5 minutes ago, Archer said:

Or I was just lying about voting for myself. 

I believe this hard clears Drought, unless it's a three person elim team. You can't get the two vote minimum for the elim kill if one of them is inactive. 

Devo, why weren't you NKed? 

Do you want to argue for two village Flightleaders, one of which lied about using their ability?

Unless TUO was a Sniper kill, this is true.

Any particular reason I would have been NKed? Did you vote for me?

[Archer he/him]

15 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Do you want to argue for two village Flightleaders, one of which lied about using their ability?

Unless TUO was a Sniper kill, this is true.

Any particular reason I would have been NKed? Did you vote for me?

I could totally see two village flightleaders, but that scenario involves an elim flightleader, and at that point, it's getting rather crowded at the front. I'm guessing from the lack of vote manip, Steel was the only one. I do not have the ability to vote on two people at once, but it was rather useful for doubling my poking abilities. Also, from the outset I assumed I'd be the favoured elim target most likely to get the overlap, and once I learned how the kills actually worked, my strategy became to try and fake at least one elim out at last minute to cause a no kill. If it looked like there was a chance I'd be exed, I figured the elims would change targets. Without the obvious pick as an option, they were more likely not to match up with each other. The flaw of that plan was I assumed that myself and you, Devo, would both be selected, and a villager would die that way anyway. Ultimately, a villager was attacked, but I was surprised to see it was TUO that got hit. The elims have to pick the obvious villagers to maximize overlap potential, so going for a null read is surprising for them. I suppose it's possible they both ended up on both Devo and TUO, but it still feels off to me. TUO being a Sniper target does actually conveniently explain things, but then, why would someone shoot TUO C1? 

[Elandera she/her]

So if we look at the numbers, we probably have two elims. That's on the high end of the 20-25% guesstimate. I doubt we'd have a 3-person team because we'd be at lylo now. If we do have 3, then I expect village probably has more than one Lancer role.

Still, I'm inclined to believe there are just two elims.

Elkanah why a tie in such a small game? ( @Elkanah )

Actually, nevermind. Elkanah

Archer

5 hours ago, Archer said:

The flaw of that plan was I assumed that myself and you, Devo, would both be selected, and a villager would die that way anyway.

 

5 hours ago, Archer said:

he elims have to pick the obvious villagers to maximize overlap potential, so going for a null read is surprising for them.

What exactly did either of you do that makes you confident that you're both "obvious villagers"?

I don't disagree the TUO kill was odd, but it could simply be an elim team who favors low-info kills, but doesn't want overlap with the filter. Why waste a good kill when time can do it for you? 

@Matrim's DiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDice.....

I give up. Mobile is weird. Anyway, is it possible the rules for the elim kill changed because of low player count?

Edited August 27, 2021 by Elandera
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[Mat he/him]

1 hour ago, Elandera said:

DiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDiceDice.....

I give up. Mobile is weird. Anyway, is it possible the rules for the elim kill changed because of low player count?

That is a possibility, yes