Aspiring Writer Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Well, it's been a while since I've made a topic. So this topic is suggesting what Shard/shard intent best fits certain characters. For instance, I would suggest Preservation would be a good fit for Kaladin with his need to protect people. What Shards fits can you think off? Note that this is currently not in the RoW thread, so be careful there, however, if people want to, you can ask for a mod to move it there. 1
Flyingbooks Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 I'm pretty sure that Invention would be a good fit for Navani even though we haven't seen that Shard yet yet Whimsy might fit first-few-chapters!Siri Devotion would fit Evi well Ambition seems like it'd fit Kelsier 2
Quantus he/him Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Dominion might fit "Tezim the Great" these days RoW Spoiler: Spoiler Mercy might fit later era Vasher (under the logic of Mercy = throwing off social/spiritual Bonds, the way Honor is creating them). Edited February 18, 2021 by Quantus Oops, RoW content
mathiau he/him Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Devotion for Adolin, maybe even the full Dor, same for Raoden Dominion for Galivar Ruin+Odium for both Young Dalinar and Kel @Aspiring Writer I think it should be moved to the RoW zone, and the two above person obviously agree
Quantus he/him Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, mathiau said: Devotion for Adolin, maybe even the full Dor, same for Raoden Dominion for Galivar Ruin+Odium for both Young Dalinar and Kel @Aspiring Writer I think it should be moved to the RoW zone, and the two above person obviously agree D'oh!
Chaos he/him Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Yes; in the future, @Flyingbooks and @Quantus, you cannot post RoW stuff outside the RoW boards, even tagged. I will move this topic but please note Cosmere Discussion explicitly has "No RoW" in the title. There is a corresponding RoW Cosmere area.
mathiau he/him Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Whimsy for Shallan and Rua, possibly for Syl too
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Ambition for Thaidakar Preservation for Lirin Invention for Navani Autonomy for Eshonai Devotion for Adolin Dominion for Dalinar Valor for Kaladin Mercy for Lift Whimsy for Rushu Endowment for Venli Cultivation for Jasnah Ruin for Raboniel Odium for Szeth Honor for Azure 1
Trutharchivist he/him Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 On 18.2.2021 at 8:40 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Ambition for Thaidakar Preservation for Lirin Invention for Navani Autonomy for Eshonai Devotion for Adolin Dominion for Dalinar Valor for Kaladin Mercy for Lift Whimsy for Rushu Endowment for Venli Cultivation for Jasnah Ruin for Raboniel Odium for Szeth Honor for Azure I think Azure and Kaladin can be switched, but except for that it seems to mostly work.
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, Trutharchivist said: I think Azure and Kaladin can be switched, but except for that it seems to mostly work. Kaladin is more very honorable, but he’s better suited to Valor. Honor contains a certain ruthlessness I don’t think he’s capable of. While Valorous acts can also be ruthless ones, that element isn’t an inherent part of the concept. Put another way: Valor is in saving lives. Honor is in doing so because of a code. Valor is in defeating your enemies. Honor is in doing so because your code says it’s right. Valor is in performing a difficult feat. Honor is in keeping to a code. Kaladin is much better suited to the former than the latter. He needs to act, to fight, to be doing something. Vivenna, who was raised to rule, is more inclined to the latter. While she can and does choose to act, she doesn’t need to the way Kaladin does.
mathiau he/him Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 On 02/03/2021 at 4:12 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Kaladin is more very honorable, but he’s better suited to Valor. Honor contains a certain ruthlessness I don’t think he’s capable of. While Valorous acts can also be ruthless ones, that element isn’t an inherent part of the concept. Put another way: Valor is in saving lives. Honor is in doing so because of a code. Valor is in defeating your enemies. Honor is in doing so because your code says it’s right. Valor is in performing a difficult feat. Honor is in keeping to a code. Kaladin is much better suited to the former than the latter. He needs to act, to fight, to be doing something. Vivenna, who was raised to rule, is more inclined to the latter. While she can and does choose to act, she doesn’t need to the way Kaladin does. Wasn't Kal confirmed to be the character the most closely aligned with Honour in SA? Also I'm pretty sure we don't know what exactly Valour is about.
basement_boi he/him Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 8:12 AM, Kingsdaughter613 said: Kaladin is more very honorable, but he’s better suited to Valor. Honor contains a certain ruthlessness I don’t think he’s capable of. While Valorous acts can also be ruthless ones, that element isn’t an inherent part of the concept. Put another way: Valor is in saving lives. Honor is in doing so because of a code. Valor is in defeating your enemies. Honor is in doing so because your code says it’s right. Valor is in performing a difficult feat. Honor is in keeping to a code. Kaladin is much better suited to the former than the latter. He needs to act, to fight, to be doing something. Vivenna, who was raised to rule, is more inclined to the latter. While she can and does choose to act, she doesn’t need to the way Kaladin does. Honor isn’t just following laws and codes, it’s also moral codes. There is a big similarity to Devotion in Honor, I think. In Honor, you do things that you swear to do, but you also do things that are morally right to you.
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