Getting Investiture Offworld

[Karger he/him]

I was wondering if we knew Mraize's solution to this problem.  He claims to have found it recently.  Then I had a thought.  Anti tones move light out of gemstones.  What if antilight could bypass connection requirements.  In fact antilight might want to leave roshar.  It is not like converting the light back into normal investiture would be hard.  What do you all think?

Edited December 18, 2020 by Karger

[teknopathetic he/him]

Ooooh, that is clever. Also made me wonder if Spren could be made of anti-investiture as well? If there were a For amount of anti-for, would that become sentient in a similar way?

With Gavilar's box, I wonder if the box somehow flipped the investiture in order to transport it? Interesting....

[Karger he/him]

5 hours ago, teknopathetic said:

With Gavilar's box, I wonder if the box somehow flipped the investiture in order to transport it? Interesting....

Gavilar's box was in system so his method was probably different.  However perhaps he showed antiinvestature as proof that he could do it? 

[OdiYum]

Didn’t Navani come up with a way to make unkeyed investiture in the process of creating anti light?  Couldn’t that be transported because it isn’t connected to any shard?

[trav]

he found the honorsprens stache of nigh perfect gems.

encasing Invested things in aluminium is my actual bet though.

Edited December 18, 2020 by trav

[Honorless he/him]

20 hours ago, Karger said:

I was wondering if we knew Mraize's solution to this problem.  He claims to have found it recently.  Then I had a thought.  Anti tones move light out of gemstones.  What if antilight could bypass connection requirements.  In fact antilight might want to leave roshar.  It is not like converting the light back into normal investiture would be hard.  What do you all think?

Hmm, would the Investiture want to leave via their Spiritual Connection to Roshar the moment they are converted back from being anti-Investiture? 

19 hours ago, teknopathetic said:

Ooooh, that is clever. Also made me wonder if Spren could be made of anti-investiture as well? If there were a For amount of anti-for, would that become sentient in a similar way?

With Gavilar's box, I wonder if the box somehow flipped the investiture in order to transport it? Interesting....

Is the Intent of anti-Investiture flipped or functionally the same?

Because Preservation and Ruin's Investiture actively repelled and harmed one another, I suspect their Rhythms are close to but not quite each other's anti-Rhythm.

Is anti-Stormlight still kind of Honor's or anti-Honor's or...? 

Matter and anti-matter are basically the same particles with the opposite charge. They annihilate each other upon contact but are (minus the Weak Force) treated the same by the rules of physics. Is anti-Stormlight negatively charged Stormlight or something that is truly antithetical to Stormlight? 

2 hours ago, OdiYum said:

Didn’t Navani come up with a way to make unkeyed investiture in the process of creating anti light?  Couldn’t that be transported because it isn’t connected to any shard?

By isolating the Lights from the Rhythms! Does that make it pure Investiture? Does that remove it's Connections? 

17 minutes ago, trav said:

encasing Invested things in aluminium is my actual bet though.

That might work. We know that liquid Investiture can be carried from Perpendicularities using aluminium containers:

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The_Carpathian

Can aluminum be used to take liquid from a Shardpool, and will it stay Invested?

Brandon Sanderson

That would work.

General Signed Books 2018 (Feb. 22, 2018)

 

[+Oltux72 he/him]

18 minutes ago, Honorless said:

That might work. We know that liquid Investiture can be carried from Perpendicularities using aluminium containers:

That does not tell you which mechanical reaction you would get as you came closer to the outsjirts of the solar system.

[Honorless he/him]

21 hours ago, Karger said:

 

Getting Investature Offworld

Found a typo: Investiture

1 hour ago, Oltux72 said:

That does not tell you which mechanical reaction you would get as you came closer to the outsjirts of the solar system.

It was a pretty solid guess but yeah, I suspect unless the Investiture is immediately used or stored/keyed to a person or converted into the local form of Investiture or transformed into "pure Investiture", it might just disperse or disappear into the Spiritual. For just transporting though, I think it will work.

Edited December 18, 2020 by Honorless

[Karger he/him]

5 hours ago, OdiYum said:

Didn’t Navani come up with a way to make unkeyed investiture in the process of creating anti light?  Couldn’t that be transported because it isn’t connected to any shard?

Don't think so.  The investiture seems to retain its original identity until changed.  It might have some kind of inertia.

1 hour ago, Honorless said:

Found a typo: Investiture

Thanks