BreezeCauthon Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Something I like to do in my spare time is come up with dream casts for movies that I think should be made. For the most part, these are based on books I like, but I've done one or two based on historical events. Anyway, the other day I decided to do one for the Stormlight Archive, so I figured I'd share here. Comment with your suggestions! I'd also like to note that since Roshar obviously doesn't have the same races/ethnicities as Earth, I didn't try particularly hard to keep characters from all the different countries the same race/ethnicity. I feel more strongly about some casting decisions than others. Some of these actors/actresses I've never seen in my life and chose solely because they look the part, others I actually have watched and think they would work for the role. It just depends. Anyway, without further ado: Spoiler Kaladin Stormblessed - Nicholas Hoult Shallan Davar - Bonnie Wright Dalinar Kholin - Christian Bale Adolin Kholin - William Moseley Jasnah Kholin - Elodie Yung Navani Kholin - Marjan Neshat Hoid/The King's Wit - Tom Hiddleston Elhokar Kholin - Mena Massoud Torol Sadeas - Russell Crowe Szeth - C.S. Lee Odium - Anthony Hopkins Eshonai - Zoe Saldana Evi Kholin - Amanda Seyfried Gaz - Sean Bean Ialai Sadeas - Eva Green Lift - Dafne Keen Lin Davar - Gerard Butler Meridas Amaram - Pedro Pascal Moash - Barney Harris Mraize - Cillian Murphy Renarin Kholin - Timothée Chalamet Rlain - Andy Serkis Rock - Jason Momoa Sigzil - Lakeith Stanfield Syl - Sienna Miller Taravangian - Ian McKellen Teft - Idris Elba Lopen - Michael Peña Gavilar - Richard Madden Happy to cast any characters you think I'm missing, to justify any decisions made here, and share other dream casts I've created if you're interested. Hope this sparked your imagination! Edited October 13, 2020 by BreezeCauthon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmical Existence Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 First off, I want to say that I LOVE the fact that you have Tom Hiddleston as Hoid/Wit. I really like that casting. I haven't looked through everyone, but the couple of your cast that I've looked at I've like, for the most part. I am curious to know which casting decisions you feel strongly about. My only big objection with your casting that I can see so far is the age of Shallan. I feel like she would look a bit younger than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeCauthon Posted October 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Cosmical Existence said: First off, I want to say that I LOVE the fact that you have Tom Hiddleston as Hoid/Wit. I really like that casting. I haven't looked through everyone, but the couple of your cast that I've looked at I've like, for the most part. I am curious to know which casting decisions you feel strongly about. My only big objection with your casting that I can see so far is the age of Shallan. I feel like she would look a bit younger than that. For some reason I thought Shallan was mid 20s, but I just realized she's actually 19 during Way of Kings, so I can understand that critique. I still like Wright for the role though. Maybe Shallan and Kaladin would be a little older in a film/TV series than in the books. I too really like Hiddleston as Wit. Bale as Dalinar, Peña as Lopen, and Crowe as Sadeas I'm also pretty proud of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPiper Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 I like your castings as fantasy castings, but there are a few practical problems with them. I disagree with you about Teft -- Teft is super old, and probably hasn't aged well since he's a drug addict. Idris Elba doesn't look old enough for the role. Beyond that, Brandon has said before that the closest human race to Alethi are the Polynesians, and you cast a lot of white actors in roles that ideally would have more of an Asian/Pacific Islander look to them. Although Hiddleston as Wit is kind of perfect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeCauthon Posted October 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 hours ago, PiedPeterPiper said: I like your castings as fantasy castings, but there are a few practical problems with them. I disagree with you about Teft -- Teft is super old, and probably hasn't aged well since he's a drug addict. Idris Elba doesn't look old enough for the role. Beyond that, Brandon has said before that the closest human race to Alethi are the Polynesians, and you cast a lot of white actors in roles that ideally would have more of an Asian/Pacific Islander look to them. Although Hiddleston as Wit is kind of perfect. I know Teft is supposed to be old, but he can't be too old otherwise he wouldn't be effective as a fighter. I've always felt like Idris Elba looks a lot older than people say he looks, so with a bit of makeup, I think it could work. He looks gruff enough, I think. As to race, as I said, I didn't try particularly hard to stay true to that. I had actually planned to, but then I couldn't find anyone for Dalinar that I liked except Bale, which kind of messed it up. So I just gave up on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) If Odium is going to be like the books Anthony Hopkins is of course a great choice. I would have someone younger play him though. I think Odium is too much like Emperor Palpatine in presentation and the way he talks. They are both elderly men who manipulate the protagonist by referring to them as "son". They both say "good good" a lot. Odium says things like "There is great Passion here", he's always egging people on to let their Passion free while Palpatine is saying "use your hatred", and approvingly says "I can feel your anger". A lot of that is unavoidable given Odium's nature he's going to go on about how useful hatred is. But he doesn't have to be an elderly man like Palpatine. He should be different. Cast him much younger. Get a veteran stage actor in his 30s or 40s who is really talented, but hasn't been seen in a lot of movies or TV (basically what Anthony Hopkins was before Silence of the Lambs), so when he pops up out of nowhere for the first time people won't know what to expect. Edited October 14, 2020 by Child of Hodor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KandraAllomancer Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 Tor did something similar a few years ago (unfortunately the pictures no longer work) and they had some real gems there, including Alex Mallari Jr. for Kaladin and Geore Takei for Taravangian. David Tennant would be my first choice for Hoid, but Hiddleston is awesome as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use the Falchion Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 Is live action the only choice here? Because if we're doing animated, I have some ideas! My choices have been pretty constant for the past two years or so, but I've made some minor changes. Dalinar - Christopher Sabat (Vegeta, Piccolo, All Might from My Hero Academia) or Kevin Conroy (Batman) Young Dalinar - Matt Latner (Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Navani - Jennifer Hale (Fem. Commander Shepard in Mass Effect, Bastila Shan in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Sheena in Tales of Symphonia, Avatar Kyoshi and June in Avatar: The Last Airbender), Jasnah - Tara Platt (Edelgard in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Detective Yuri in Insomniac's Spider-Man) Shallan - Cherami Leigh (Makoto from Pesona 5, Lucy from Fairy Tail, Asuna from SAO) or Willa Holland (Aqua from Kingdom Hearts, Thea Queen from Arrow) or Christina Vee (see below) Evi - Ashley Eckstein (Ahsoka in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Lift - Christina Vee (Marionette from Miraculous Ladybug, Elsa in Re:Zero) or Sasha Rojen (Ezran from The Dragon Prince) Mr. T - Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker, Joker, Dictatious in Trollhunters, Darth Bane in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Szeth - Keith Silverstein (Shido in Persona 5, Saber in Fire Emblem Echoes, Hawk Moth in Miraculous Ladybug, Lex Luthor in Batman: Arkham Knight) Kaladin - Michael B Jordan (Adonis Creed, Killmonger, Cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox), Stephen Amell (Oliver Queen in Arrow), or Matt Mercer (GM of Critical Role, Chrom, Ryoma/Shigure in Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates respectively, and Yusuke Kitagawa Persona 5 respectively) Tien - Justin Brinner (Deku in My Hero Academia) or Tom Holland (Peter Parker/Spider-Man in the MCU)? Teft - Steve Blum (from pretty much everything but: Spike from Cowboy Bebop, Amon from The Legend of Korra, Zeb from Star Wars Rebels, Grunt in Mass Effect 2 & 3, Ares in God of War) Rock - Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson The Lopen - Michael Pena Amaram - Henry Cavill (Superman in the DCEU, The Man From U.N.C.L.E.) or Mark Meer (Male Commander Shepard) Sadeas - James Arnold Taylor (Obi-Wan from Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Wit - Brandon Sanderson himself?? Matt Mercer?? Adolin - Jack De Sena (Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Callum from The Dragon Prince), Joe Brogie (Sylvain from Fire Emblem: Three Houses) Renarin - Justin Brinner (Deku in My Hero Academia) if he's not Tien. Nohadon - ??? Shalash - ??? Jezrien - Mark Whitten (Dimitri from Fire Emblem: There Houses) Taln - Idris Elba (?) Elhokar - ??? Gavilar - Christopher Sabat (if he's not Dalinar) or Sean Bean (Boromir, Ned Stark) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiring Writer Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Use the Falchion said: Is live action the only choice here? Because if we're doing animated, I have some ideas! My choices have been pretty constant for the past two years or so, but I've made some minor changes. Dalinar - Christopher Sabat (Vegeta, Piccolo, All Might from My Hero Academia) or Kevin Conroy (Batman) Young Dalinar - Matt Latner (Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Navani - Jennifer Hale (Fem. Commander Shepard in Mass Effect, Bastila Shan in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Sheena in Tales of Symphonia, Avatar Kyoshi and June in Avatar: The Last Airbender), Jasnah - Tara Platt (Edelgard in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Detective Yuri in Insomniac's Spider-Man) Shallan - Cherami Leigh (Makoto from Pesona 5, Lucy from Fairy Tail, Asuna from SAO) or Willa Holland (Aqua from Kingdom Hearts, Thea Queen from Arrow) or Christina Vee (see below) Evi - Ashley Eckstein (Ahsoka in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Lift - Christina Vee (Marionette from Miraculous Ladybug, Elsa in Re:Zero) or Sasha Rojen (Ezran from The Dragon Prince) Mr. T - Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker, Joker, Dictatious in Trollhunters, Darth Bane in Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Szeth - Keith Silverstein (Shido in Persona 5, Saber in Fire Emblem Echoes, Hawk Moth in Miraculous Ladybug, Lex Luthor in Batman: Arkham Knight) Kaladin - Michael B Jordan (Adonis Creed, Killmonger, Cyborg in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox), Stephen Amell (Oliver Queen in Arrow), or Matt Mercer (GM of Critical Role, Chrom, Ryoma/Shigure in Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates respectively, and Yusuke Kitagawa Persona 5 respectively) Tien - Justin Brinner (Deku in My Hero Academia) or Tom Holland (Peter Parker/Spider-Man in the MCU)? Teft - Steve Blum (from pretty much everything but: Spike from Cowboy Bebop, Amon from The Legend of Korra, Zeb from Star Wars Rebels, Grunt in Mass Effect 2 & 3, Ares in God of War) Rock - Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson The Lopen - Michael Pena Amaram - Henry Cavill (Superman in the DCEU, The Man From U.N.C.L.E.) or Mark Meer (Male Commander Shepard) Sadeas - James Arnold Taylor (Obi-Wan from Star Wars: The Clone Wars) Wit - Brandon Sanderson himself?? Matt Mercer?? Adolin - Jack De Sena (Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Callum from The Dragon Prince), Joe Brogie (Sylvain from Fire Emblem: Three Houses) Renarin - Justin Brinner (Deku in My Hero Academia) if he's not Tien. Nohadon - ??? Shalash - ??? Jezrien - Mark Whitten (Dimitri from Fire Emblem: There Houses) Taln - Idris Elba (?) Elhokar - ??? Gavilar - Christopher Sabat (if he's not Dalinar) or Sean Bean (Boromir, Ned Stark) u know way too many actors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 2:58 PM, BreezeCauthon said: Something I like to do in my spare time is come up with dream casts for movies that I think should be made. For the most part, these are based on books I like, but I've done one or two based on historical events. Anyway, the other day I decided to do one for the Stormlight Archive, so I figured I'd share here. Comment with your suggestions! I'd also like to note that since Roshar obviously doesn't have the same races/ethnicities as Earth, I didn't try particularly hard to keep characters from all the different countries the same race/ethnicity. I feel more strongly about some casting decisions than others. Some of these actors/actresses I've never seen in my life and chose solely because they look the part, others I actually have watched and think they would work for the role. It just depends. Anyway, without further ado: Hide contents Kaladin Stormblessed - Nicholas Hoult Shallan Davar - Bonnie Wright Dalinar Kholin - Christian Bale Adolin Kholin - William Moseley Jasnah Kholin - Elodie Yung Navani Kholin - Marjan Neshat Hoid/The King's Wit - Tom Hiddleston Elhokar Kholin - Mena Massoud Torol Sadeas - Russell Crowe Szeth - C.S. Lee Odium - Anthony Hopkins Eshonai - Zoe Saldana Evi Kholin - Amanda Seyfried Gaz - Sean Bean Ialai Sadeas - Eva Green Lift - Dafne Keen Lin Davar - Gerard Butler Meridas Amaram - Pedro Pascal Moash - Barney Harris Mraize - Cillian Murphy Renarin Kholin - Timothée Chalamet Rlain - Andy Serkis Rock - Jason Momoa Sigzil - Lakeith Stanfield Syl - Sienna Miller Taravangian - Ian McKellen Teft - Idris Elba Lopen - Michael Peña Gavilar - Richard Madden Happy to cast any characters you think I'm missing, to justify any decisions made here, and share other dream casts I've created if you're interested. Hope this sparked your imagination! Jasnah as Elodie Jung would be perfect. I also think that the choices for Wit, Odium, Eshonai, Gaz, Lin, & Moash are great. So is Navani and Elhokar. I have very strong negative opinions about your choice for Kaladin, Shallan, Dalinar, Adolin, Renarin, Gavilar, and Evi and I can find no good way to speak about them so I'll leave it at that hahah. Most of the others for the side character cast seem very solid, tho. I think that Vin Diesel needs an appearance, but I'm not sure as who. And Rock as Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is just too perfect and needs to happen even if I'm literally the only person on the planet who thinks so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeCauthon Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, kaellok said: I have very strong negative opinions about your choice for Kaladin, Shallan, Dalinar, Adolin, Renarin, Gavilar, and Evi and I can find no good way to speak about them so I'll leave it at that hahah. Don't worry, I can take the heat. What are the problems? Do you have any alternative suggestions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, BreezeCauthon said: Don't worry, I can take the heat. What are the problems? Do you have any alternative suggestions? I don't have alternative suggestions, I just burn things to the ground. That's part of why I didn't want to say anything more to begin with First, though, they're super-white. Like, stand them next to a fence-post painted white and they'd be mostly indistinguishable. I'm sure that Nicholas Hoult is a perfectly decent person and is an okay actor from what I've seen, but Kaladin is someone who's been fairly deeply traumatized. Even living inside of Kaladin's head, he got a bit much for me in WoR the first time around leading me to look for excuses to put the book down and go to sleep; we need an actor who is capable of channeling that pathos and coming across emotive instead of whiny, and the limited experience with his acting chops that I have doesn't lend me to think that he's capable of that. It's a really hard ask, for someone that young to be able to channel that pathos and have it feel genuine. I have similar thoughts about the actors for Elhokar, Renarin, and Adolin -- it'd be really easy to get too much or too little and dislike the characters for the wrong reasons. Timothée Chalamet as Renarin in particular I have concerns with, but partially because I've never seen a thing he's been in and (me unfairly judging him entirely by his looks) seems like an actor who would play him as blatantly super-creepy and weird instead of with the subtlety that is reality. That thought is one that is most open to change, tho, since he is playing Paul Atreides in Dune. I just plain don't like Christian Bale as an actor. Also, I don't think that he has the physical frame capable of pulling off Dalinar. He'd bulked up a bit for the Batman role, and it's not like he was exactly huge there. Maybe it's just my mental image, but I've always seen Dalinar as someone who's 6'6" and bulky muscular; as method as Bale has been to change his physique, he's still lean muscular. Bonnie Wright looks nothing like the Shallan in my head. So really just a bunch of baggage for me, personally. I do like the idea of an animated series for SA, though, especially since it'd be easier to do a lot of the necessary but weird bits--like populating the world with spren, instead of just having some here and there plus the important ones. Or mobile 'grass'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Just a reminder that Alethi are dark tan with black hair and epicanthic folds. Ethnically, they would be something like a mix of Asian/Polynesian. We should try to find actors that fit their physical descriptions whenever possible (and it is very possible). For example Ken Watanabe or Donnie Yen or Manu Bennet or Salman Khan for Dalinar Alex Landi for Kaladin Sammo Hung for Sadeas Park Hye Min or Mirei Kiritani as Shallan Maggie Q as Jasnah David Bautista as Rock Jimmy Yang as Renarin Michelle Yeoh as Navani Nyle DiMarco as Adolin Tom Hiddleston or David Tennant as Hoid Edited October 16, 2020 by RShara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeCauthon Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RShara said: Just a reminder that Alethi are dark tan with black hair and epicanthic folds. Ethnically, they would be something like a mix of Asian/Polynesian. We should try to find actors that fit their physical descriptions whenever possible (and it is very possible). For example Ken Watanabe or Donnie Yen or Manu Bennet or Salman Khan for Dalinar Alex Landi for Kaladin Sammo Hung for Sadeas Park Hye Min or Mirei Kiritani as Shallan Maggie Q as Jasnah David Bautista as Rock Jimmy Yang as Renarin Michelle Yeoh as Navani Nyle DiMarco as Adolin Tom Hiddleston or David Tennant as Hoid To be fair, if we're going to criticize for not staying perfectly true to the imaginary races in the books, Brandon has said that Polynesian is the closest we're gonna get, and East Asian is not much of a better substitution for Polynesian than white. 17 hours ago, kaellok said: I don't have alternative suggestions, I just burn things to the ground. That's part of why I didn't want to say anything more to begin with First, though, they're super-white. Like, stand them next to a fence-post painted white and they'd be mostly indistinguishable. I'm sure that Nicholas Hoult is a perfectly decent person and is an okay actor from what I've seen, but Kaladin is someone who's been fairly deeply traumatized. Even living inside of Kaladin's head, he got a bit much for me in WoR the first time around leading me to look for excuses to put the book down and go to sleep; we need an actor who is capable of channeling that pathos and coming across emotive instead of whiny, and the limited experience with his acting chops that I have doesn't lend me to think that he's capable of that. It's a really hard ask, for someone that young to be able to channel that pathos and have it feel genuine. I have similar thoughts about the actors for Elhokar, Renarin, and Adolin -- it'd be really easy to get too much or too little and dislike the characters for the wrong reasons. Timothée Chalamet as Renarin in particular I have concerns with, but partially because I've never seen a thing he's been in and (me unfairly judging him entirely by his looks) seems like an actor who would play him as blatantly super-creepy and weird instead of with the subtlety that is reality. That thought is one that is most open to change, tho, since he is playing Paul Atreides in Dune. I just plain don't like Christian Bale as an actor. Also, I don't think that he has the physical frame capable of pulling off Dalinar. He'd bulked up a bit for the Batman role, and it's not like he was exactly huge there. Maybe it's just my mental image, but I've always seen Dalinar as someone who's 6'6" and bulky muscular; as method as Bale has been to change his physique, he's still lean muscular. Bonnie Wright looks nothing like the Shallan in my head. So really just a bunch of baggage for me, personally. I do like the idea of an animated series for SA, though, especially since it'd be easier to do a lot of the necessary but weird bits--like populating the world with spren, instead of just having some here and there plus the important ones. Or mobile 'grass'. See? I could handle it I don't agree, but I can see where you're coming from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 hours ago, BreezeCauthon said: To be fair, if we're going to criticize for not staying perfectly true to the imaginary races in the books, Brandon has said that Polynesian is the closest we're gonna get, and East Asian is not much of a better substitution for Polynesian than white. Brandon has consistently said Asian/Polynesian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeCauthon Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, RShara said: Brandon has consistently said Asian/Polynesian. "Alethkar natives other than the Shin have the epicanthic fold, but the Alethi wouldn’t look strictly Asian to you–they’d look like a race that you can’t define, as we don’t have them on earth. I use half-Asian/half-arab or half-asian/half-Polynesian models as my guide some of the time, but Alethi are going to have a tanner skin than some of those." - Brandon Sanderson. Actually, this is what he's said, but I digress. It's all imaginary anyway - both Brandon's descriptions and my admittedly somewhat textually unfaithful casting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllNsickly Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 Hoid has always and will always be Dr. Kaku in my head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use the Falchion Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) On 10/14/2020 at 7:02 PM, Aspiring Writer said: u know way too many actors. Meh, it's usually a process, not me knowing the actors off the top of my head. I already have a picture of the characters in my mind as animated, so the next step is finding a character in a different medium that (roughly) fits the voice of the Stormlight characters in my head. I look up the voice actor after that, and put down some of their more notable roles so people can put the name with the face...or voice, in this case. My life action fan casting is very different and doesn't really mesh well with Brandon's works anyways. Edited October 17, 2020 by Use the Falchion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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