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The Drominad System has four planets in the habitable zone, we see one of them, First of the Sun in Sixth of the Dusk . Khriss says that Second of the Sun & Third of the Sun have human beings as well. But what about Fourth of the Sun?

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The system, nicknamed Drominad, has a remarkable three planets inhabited by fully developed human societies. There is also a fourth planet in the habitable zone. This is unique in the cosmere; only the Rosharan system can rival it, and there one of the planets is inhabited solely by Splinters. All four of these planets have water as a dominant feature.

Is it only in the habitable zone but remains uninhabited? Does it have "primitive" rather than "fully developed" human societies? Does it not have humans at all - Does it have other intelligent lifeforms? Or does it contain life but no lifeforms that have achieved sapience? Does it only have microbial life?

The first and the last options seem most plausible to me

 

As @Eternal Khol notes, it might not necessarily be Fourth of the Sun that's the exception in the Drominad system which doesn't harbor a "fully developed human society". Khriss never stated which ones did, only that three of them did.

First, Third and Fourth of the Sun have green splotches on them, marking presence of land and vegetation. Second of the Sun appears to be entirely blue without any visible landmasses.

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51 minutes ago, The Traveller said:

Which one is inhabited solely by splinters? Fourth?

That's referring to the Rosharan System, not the Drominad System 

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That's Braize, inhabited by Odium, Voidspren, the Fused, Thunderclasts, the Heralds in-between Desolations, possibly some of the Unmade at some points

 

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Oh got it. I don’t think unmade were sent to Braize in between desolations 

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4 hours ago, The Traveller said:
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Oh got it. I don’t think unmade were sent to Braize in between desolations 

 

10 hours ago, Honorless said:

That's referring to the Rosharan System, not the Drominad System 

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That's Braize, inhabited by Odium, Voidspren, the Fused, Thunderclasts, the Heralds in-between Desolations, possibly some of the Unmade at some points

 

Not quite what I said

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Not in-between the Desolations. Just some of them, at some points, must've visited Braize as it is the HQ of Odium's forces

Besides, that's getting off-topic, PM me if you want to talk about this more

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45 minutes ago, Honorless said:

Not quite what I said

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Not in-between the Desolations. Just some of them, at some points, must've visited Braize as it is the HQ of Odium's forces

Besides, that's getting off-topic, PM me if you want to talk about this more


lol will pm you 

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Yes agreed on unmade making occasional visits to Braize to get directions! But now with everstorms, they don’t need to any more. 

 

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Could be just like Mars, planet in the habitable zone but didn't have life whenever Khriss visited. Maybe life was there but died out, might be it never had it, or might be that it could start developing in the future. The Drominad system seems like it will develop interplanetary trade when the various civilizations there start getting space faring tech, they might colonize it later in the Cosmere timeline. I could see Brandon making a short story or something where the characters go to colonize a new planet using one or more of the various magic systems. 

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On 2/15/2020 at 1:00 AM, Harrycrapper said:

Could be just like Mars, planet in the habitable zone but didn't have life whenever Khriss visited. Maybe life was there but died out, might be it never had it, or might be that it could start developing in the future. The Drominad system seems like it will develop interplanetary trade when the various civilizations there start getting space faring tech, they might colonize it later in the Cosmere timeline. I could see Brandon making a short story or something where the characters go to colonize a new planet using one or more of the various magic systems. 

Cosmere terraforming, sounds kinda scary but also very neat

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6 hours ago, Dreamer said:

Cosmere terraforming, sounds kinda scary but also very neat

Why scary?

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1 hour ago, Karger said:

Why scary?

Ashyn comes to mind, as does Final Empire era Scadrial, planet-wide magic in the Cosmere are potentially extinction-level threats

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2 hours ago, Dreamer said:

Ashyn comes to mind, as does Final Empire era Scadrial, planet-wide magic in the Cosmere are potentially extinction-level threats

Ashyn was a mistake(we think) and Reshek was an absolute idiot but I see your point.

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On 2/11/2020 at 7:55 PM, Dreamer said:

The Drominad System has four planets in the habitable zone, we see one of them, First of the Sun in Sixth of the Dusk . Khriss says that Second of the Sun & Third of the Sun have human beings as well. But what about Fourth of the Sun?

Is it only in the habitable zone but remains uninhabited? Does it have "primitive" rather than "fully developed" human societies? Does it not have humans at all - Does it have other intelligent lifeforms? Or does it contain life but no lifeforms that have achieved sapience?

The first and the last options seem most plausible to me

She never explicitly says its the first three planets that are inhabited. Just that 3 of them are with a 4th in the habitable zone.

 The chances that its the first 3 are pretty high. But its never directly stated

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On 2/23/2020 at 4:40 AM, Eternal Khol said:

She never explicitly says its the first three planets that are inhabited. Just that 3 of them are with a 4th in the habitable zone.

 The chances that its the first 3 are pretty high. But its never directly stated

I pretty much based my assumption on the fact that the Fourth had a ring. I just do not associate ringed planets with planets that could harbor life due to the various articles, videos, etc I've read or heard on the subject

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3 hours ago, Dreamer said:

I pretty much based my assumption on the fact that the Fourth had a ring. I just do not associate ringed planets with planets that could harbor life due to the various articles, videos, etc I've read or heard on the subject

Ohhh.... 

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This isn't necessarily indicative of anything, but 1st, 3rd and 4th of the sun all have the colors blue and green like the oceans and land

2nd of the sun only has the color blue like it doesn't really have land, which would most likely be needed for a "fully developed human society"

It's almost nothing, but it's what I'm hanging on to.

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6 hours ago, Dreamer said:

I pretty much based my assumption on the fact that the Fourth had a ring. I just do not associate ringed planets with planets that could harbor life due to the various articles, videos, etc I've read or heard on the subject

I am not sure what you are referring to.  Eventually our moon could become a ring.  Also with cosmere rules about making planets this is not a problem.

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3 hours ago, Karger said:

I am not sure what you are referring to.  Eventually our moon could become a ring.  Also with cosmere rules about making planets this is not a problem.

About habitable zone & resulting impossibility of ice rings, how vital the moon & resulting stronger tides were to life, how dangerous ring formation could be for any extant life, etc. Yeah, it's not as big a concern in Cosmere settings

6 hours ago, Eternal Khol said:

Ohhh.... 

Screenshot_20200227-103246.thumb.png.0783e874b3823dd31427b52ae963dceb.png

This isn't necessarily indicative of anything, but 1st, 3rd and 4th of the sun all have the colors blue and green like the oceans and land

2nd of the sun only has the color blue like it doesn't really have land, which would most likely be needed for a "fully developed human society"

It's almost nothing, but it's what I'm hanging on to.

That's a good observation!

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Maybe there is life and Kriss missed it? Something like an underground society? (Or, if it’s the Second of the Sun, an underwater society) 

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On 6/7/2020 at 6:09 AM, Hentient said:

Maybe there is life and Kriss missed it? Something like an underground society? (Or, if it’s the Second of the Sun, an underwater society) 

They would still have a Cognitive presence

 

(Just in case): We're arguing about what Khriss means by "remarkable three planets inhabited by fully developed human societies", inhuman societies? Not fully developed human societies? No sapient life? No life? It's a bit unclear but probably not the first two since she compares it with the Rosharan system & mentions that the Drominad has four planets in the habitable zone

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14 hours ago, R J said:

They would still have a Cognitive presence

 

(Just in case): We're arguing about what Khriss means by "remarkable three planets inhabited by fully developed human societies", inhuman societies? Not fully developed human societies? No sapient life? No life? It's a bit unclear but probably not the first two since she compares it with the Rosharan system & mentions that the Drominad has four planets in the habitable zone

i think whatever planet it is, its gotta have life, maybe not humans, but definitely life.

i feel like in the space age cosmere, that Fourth Planet will be colonized.

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