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Just now, The traveller said:

I agree 

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After Rlain had his heart to heart with Kaladin, he might have suggested Rlain to go look for any survivors and that they would be welcomed in urithiru..

 

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That is certainly a way that could have happened. I more thought of it as the beginnings of the manifestation of a deeper connection to the Rhythms that lets him know something's horribly wrong with his countrymen via Connection as the beginning parts of his bond. After all, we know the bonds don't tend to obey linear time with their initial gifts. I also think I remember Eshonai (or maybe it was Venli) mentioning Rlain and off-hand saying that he's always noticed small things. 

Both theories have merit. I guess we'll have to wait until this time next year to find out!

 

[Aon Tia she/her]

5 minutes ago, Invocation said:

Both theories have merit. I guess we'll have to wait until this time next year to find out!

Too long a wait !! 

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Just now, The traveller said:

Too long a wait !! 

Absolutely. I console myself with the fact that I've been waiting longer for W&W4 and that at least SA4's wait is roughly halfway done, if things stay on their current path.

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1 minute ago, Invocation said:

Absolutely. I console myself with the fact that I've been waiting longer for W&W4 and that at least SA4's wait is roughly halfway done, if things stay on their current path.

I am hoping starsight will keep me occupied for a month.. and then the state of Sanderson next month.. can not wait..

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2 minutes ago, The traveller said:

I am hoping starsight will keep me occupied for a month.. and then the state of Sanderson next month.. can not wait..

I would be impressed if Starsight lasted you a month. State of the Sanderson is going to be great, though. 

We are very off-topic. Better cut this short before the mods get onto us.  

You can PM me if you want to keep talking.

Edited November 2, 2019 by Invocation

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3 minutes ago, Invocation said:

We are very off-topic. Better cut this short before the mods get onto us.  

True that.. 

[IllNsickly he/him]

I like Rlain as the Sibling Bondsmith.

 

But I REALLY like Lift for the Cultivation/Nightwatcher Bondsmith. Can’t really say why... Except pancakes.

 

I know she is already an Edgedancer, but there is WoB that says it is possible.

Edited November 2, 2019 by IllNsickly
Perhaps I don’t think thoroughly when I am drinking.

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7 minutes ago, IllNsickly said:

I like Rlain as the Sibling Bondsmith.

But I REALLY like Lift for the Cultivation/Nightwatcher Bondsmith. Can’t really say why... Except pancakes.

I know she is already an Edgedancer, but there is WoB that says it is possible.

If she does end up a Bondsmith, it probably won't happen until her POV book in the latter half.

[IllNsickly he/him]

2 minutes ago, Invocation said:

If she does end up a Bondsmith, it probably won't happen until her POV book in the latter half.

I actually think that might be a better place.

That said, I can’t decide who I want more for Nightwatcher in the front half. Navani stands more than strong enough on her own...... OOHHH!!

 

Hessina... (sp?) Kaladin’s Mother, failing that, Lirin.

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2 minutes ago, IllNsickly said:

Hessina... (sp?) Kaladin’s Mother, failing that, Lirin.

I don't think Hesina would work very well. She might work for a different order, but I don't think she's Bondsmith material. Lirin has the same problem. He might make a decent Windrunner or Edgedancer, but not so much a Bondsmith. I think Navani is probably the best bet, which would also help her work in concert with Dalinar.

[IllNsickly he/him]

I dig it. Navani really is the strongest candidate.

 

I just have a deep love of being blindsided by unlikely turns in stories.

 

House Kholin is also already heavily represented. Observation, not complaint. But Navani would just be another Kholin. I am hoping for the 2nd and 3rd Bondsmith’s to be outside of that House.

Edited November 2, 2019 by IllNsickly
Thingy stuff.

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6 minutes ago, IllNsickly said:

 

House Kholin is also already heavily represented. Observation, not complaint. But Navani would just be another Kholin. I am hoping for the 2nd and 3rd Bondsmith’s to be outside of that House.

She is such a genius artifabrian and she is so involved in all her inventions that I like the idea of her bonding the biggest fabrial spren ever!

It just works for me despite the heavy representation of kholins.. 

Edited November 2, 2019 by The traveller

[IllNsickly he/him]

Hmm... That actually makes a lot of sense..

I shall arbitrarily disagree with you and sing NANANANANANA with my hands over my ears.

Rlain as the Cultivation/Nightwatcher Bondsmith does make more sense too, doesn’t he?

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3 minutes ago, IllNsickly said:

Rlain as the Cultivation/Nightwatcher Bondsmith does make more sense too, doesn’t he?

Totally. I think that singers/ listeners might be closer to cultivation in the way they acquire forms and cultivate changes.. so I like the idea of one of them bonding NW.. 

I know.. I am torn about Navani too. I want it but I also get why people might object. Plus she is too obvious a candidate and Brandon loves throwing a left punch at us from nowhere.. so you may get your wish! 

Edited November 2, 2019 by The traveller

[Honorless he/him]

I'm of the opinion that bonding the Nightwatcher might very well require the prospective Radiant to go to the Nightwatcher to make a petition, as in ask for the boon of bonding her. Taravangian is disqualified since he's already visited her. Vasher/Zahel might have visited her too, what with Nightblood in her hands and him using Stormlight as Breath. It might be Investiture hacking that he did himself, he's certainly capable enough, but it could just as well turn out to have been  an exchange rather than a Boon/Bane (teaching him the hack instead of the Old Magic to change his Spiritweb). He has enough grit to go back and ask to bond her.

For the Sibling, I wanted someone gentle and connected to Roshar. Rlain just felt right.

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55 minutes ago, Honorless said:

I'm of the opinion that bonding the Nightwatcher might very well require the prospective Radiant to go to the Nightwatcher to make a petition, as in ask for the boon of bonding her.

I agree on this much... 

but “connected to Roshar” is the exact reason why I see Rlain bonding to NW.. And his gentle nature might temper her too..

Edited November 2, 2019 by The traveller

[Tglassy]

Sorry guys, it's me. I'm the next Bondsmith.  Me and the Nightwatcher's gonna mess some stuff up.  

[IcaroRibeiro he/him]

I guess the Sibling bondsmith has yet to debut on the books, probably will appear on the second half of the series 

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1 hour ago, IcaroRibeiro said:

I guess the Sibling bondsmith has yet to debut on the books, probably will appear on the second half of the series 

I used to believe that for NW 

untill the possibility of Rlain was introduced to me on the shard..

[Use the Falchion]

I voted for Navani and Rlain respectively, but it wouldn't bother me too much if it turned out to be Rlain for the Sibling and Rock for the Nightwatcher, or something to that effect. 

[Guest Edonidd]

The spoiler preludes from SA4 are heavily showing Navani's Bondsmith like attributes, but her showing up and taking over the hunt for Urithiru/Narak and uniting the scholars and directing the artifabrians all seem to be Bondsmith qualities.

 

I have never seen any of those kind of qualities or attributes from Rlain.  I think that one is wishful thinking.  He is definitely a character with a role in the story to come, but there is nothing to indicate that role would be as a Bondsmith.

 

Zahal, again we havent seen anything from him that even resembles Bondsmith qualities.

 

Rock however has shown all sorts of hints that he is as important to the story as anyone on this list, and he has shown more Bondsmith qualities than anyone too.  Pious and Guiding along with uniting things.  While Kaladin was the unquestioned leader of Bridge Four, it was Rock who played a big part in bringing them together and then holding them together once they were there.  It was his razor and shaving ritual that brought people together.  And definitely his stew every night is like the defining characteristic of Bridge Four.  And the Pious attitude he has along with his ability to see spren and his connection to Cultivation's perpendicularity.   Everything to me points to Bondsmith.

 

Taravangian was already changed by Cultivation/used in her personal plans against Odium.  That would seem to be a point in his favor since it is so similar to Dalinar, and he has definitely shown Bondsmith qualities uniting Kharbranth and Jah Keved along with putting together and running The Diagram secret society.  But he doesn't feel right to me personally.  It feels like his part has mostly been played already.  Just my opinion though on him.

[Guest Edonidd]

On 11/2/2019 at 1:23 AM, The traveller said:

She is such a genius artifabrian and she is so involved in all her inventions that I like the idea of her bonding the biggest fabrial spren ever!

It just works for me despite the heavy representation of kholins.. 

She maybe has a upper tier understanding of Fabrials, but she has said herself she's not some genius artifabrian.  She is interested in them and probably has an innate ability.  But we've seen some of the scholars in interludes studying stuff, she just doesnt have that time while she's busy being Queen and then Queen Mother.  Her money buys scholars to work for her or at her direction but she's not some genius in there just banging out fabrial ideas.  

 

She's more Henry Ford and less Karl Benz.

 

Not that it really has anything to do with the argument, I guess both are still known in history as geniuses or at least innovators/inventors.  I just think the distinction needs to be made.

[1stBondsmith he/him]

Being who I am, I wouldn't wish the job on anyone I liked.

Seriously though, Sanderson said he would like to be a bondsmith, but he didn't think he was tough enough (or it was too hard) to go though what it takes to become one. We have more to see with Dalinar, and it won't be pleasant. I spoke with Brandon a few times on the subject, and he RAFOd any good information, but said the price was very high.

[Honorless he/him]

On 11/4/2019 at 1:44 AM, Edonidd said:

She maybe has a upper tier understanding of Fabrials, but she has said herself she's not some genius artifabrian.  She is interested in them and probably has an innate ability.  But we've seen some of the scholars in interludes studying stuff, she just doesnt have that time while she's busy being Queen and then Queen Mother.  Her money buys scholars to work for her or at her direction but she's not some genius in there just banging out fabrial ideas.  

 

She's more Henry Ford and less Karl Benz.

 

Not that it really has anything to do with the argument, I guess both are still known in history as geniuses or at least innovators/inventors.  I just think the distinction needs to be made.

While I do agree with you regarding Navani's role, I should point out that she was the creator of the painrial, pain knife and a time-piece fabrial.

She said she tested the experimental versions of the pain knife on herself to perfect it.

[Karger he/him]

2 hours ago, 1stBondsmith said:

Being who I am, I wouldn't wish the job on anyone I liked.

Seriously though, Sanderson said he would like to be a bondsmith, but he didn't think he was tough enough (or it was too hard) to go though what it takes to become one. We have more to see with Dalinar, and it won't be pleasant. I spoke with Brandon a few times on the subject, and he RAFOd any good information, but said the price was very high.

That tracks with the real world.  Think about all the assassinated voices of moderation, diplomacy and unity are out there...