Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I was rereading Way of Kings and then I saw this From WoKs Quote Captainlord Malan,” Adolin bellowed. “Take your soldiers, go with this man. Get my father out!” and then I though that is odd. Malan sounds a lot like Melaan. Wait a minute... Quote Teen Author Boot Camp (April 11, 2015) #1 Share Copy Skaiiwalker (paraphrased) Are there any kandra on Roshar? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes. Skaiiwalker (paraphrased) Is Axies one of them? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) No, but good guess. The Aimians are a different race. Am I actually on to something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Depends on whether Malan made it through the events of WoR or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Invocation said: Depends on whether Malan made it through the events of WoR or not. Can you ctrl f the name someone who has an ecopy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Karger said: Can you ctrl f the name someone who has an ecopy? I just did in Oathbringer, and, well, sorry. Dude's dead, and there was probably a body due to Dalinar's certainty. Quote "This is troubling," Dalinar said. "We face a terrible threat that would wipe our kind from Roshar like leaves before the stormwall. I don't have enough time to worry about a murderer slinking through these tunnels." He looked at Adolin. "Most of the men I'd have assigned to an investigation like this are dead. Niter, Malan ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Invocation said: I just did in Oathbringer, and, well, sorry. Dude's dead, and there was probably a body due to Dalinar's certainty. Shadows of Self indicates that does not really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Karger said: Shadows of Self indicates that does not really matter. I find it difficult to think that a kandra would choose to die in the middle of a large fight like that. Unless you were talking about them voluntarily keeping their shape when the body "dies," in which case I just want to mention that Malan was likely lighteyed, which meant they would have Soulcast the body to stone anyway, which would have its own issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 MeLaan doesn't really seem like she would particularly be interested in going undercover on Roshar. And her behavior in SoS and BoM doesn't really seem to indicate that she's an experienced worldhopper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 It's probably another naming coincidence, like how Malata sounds like the perfect name to have the god-metal of Malatium, but we know that's an alloy of Atium and Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Invocation said: Unless you were talking about them voluntarily keeping their shape when the body "dies," in which case I just want to mention that Malan was likely lighteyed, which meant they would have Soulcast the body to stone anyway, which would have its own issues. They could have a confirmed report of his death. This could be why Dalinar is so certain. 6 hours ago, RShara said: MeLaan doesn't really seem like she would particularly be interested in going undercover on Roshar. And her behavior in SoS and BoM doesn't really seem to indicate that she's an experienced worldhopper. From where do you come to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Karger said: They could have a confirmed report of his death. This could be why Dalinar is so certain. They wouldn't have made a confirmed report without some visual evidence of a body, and if it were to be MeLaan, she probably wouldn't have stayed still for long enough for that report to be confirmed dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Invocation said: They wouldn't have made a confirmed report without some visual evidence of a body, and if it were to be MeLaan, she probably wouldn't have stayed still for long enough for that report to be confirmed dead. If he was not accounted for during the evacuation of Narak they would have considered him dead. The probably also see Nazh as dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Karger said: If he was not accounted for during the evacuation of Narak they would have considered him dead. The probably also see Nazh as dead. You'd think that, but my money is on that they'd say something more like "missing, presumed dead" instead of straight-up dead. In particular Dalinar, considering he must have trusted Malan a fair amount to even consider putting him on an investigation like that, would have wanted to be somewhat optimistic about the missing people's fate in front of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Karger said: From where do you come to this conclusion? My impression of MeLaan, which is why I used "seem". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger he/him Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, RShara said: My impression of MeLaan, which is why I used "seem". MeLaan is a pretty impressive actress with hundreds of years of practice at impersonation also we have this WoB. Quote Orem signing 2014 (Dec. 6, 2014) #6 Share Copy Newan (paraphrased) Is the kandra worldhopper MeLaan? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Good question. *hands Newan a RAFO card* In upcoming Mistborn books, you are going to get to know a lot more of the kandra, so you will have a lot more options. And MeLaan is exactly the servant I would send to help Hoid if I were Harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Erm. But the kandra is already on Roshar, and Hoid only just received the Letter from Harmony. Who was shocked at the correspondence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, RShara said: Erm. But the kandra is already on Roshar, and Hoid only just received the Letter from Harmony. Who was shocked at the correspondence. But we don’t really know when these letters have been received... hoid has been on Roshar for a while I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The traveller said: But we don’t really know when these letters have been received... hoid has been on Roshar for a while I think I think it'd be really weird for the letters to significantly predate or post date the time that they were revealed. Also, how long Hoid has been on Roshar isn't really relevant. The point was the timing of the Letter, and the time the kandra has been on Roshar, indicating it's not likely for Hoid and the kandra to have met prior to that point or for the kandra currently on Roshar to have been sent specifically to meet Hoid. Edited October 16, 2019 by RShara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The traveller said: But we don’t really know when these letters have been received... hoid has been on Roshar for a while I think From Gavilar's death until the events of WoR it has been approximately 7 years. When Amaram sees Hoid in WOR he makes a comment along the lines of "So this is the new Wit..." that would indicate that Hoid has been the Wit for at most 7 years. Judging by how Dalinar and Adolin initially react to him I would guess it is much less time than that. That doesn't rule out the possibly that Hoid was on Roshar longer doing other things but still the implication is he hasn't been there that long. Edit: @RShara beat me to the same point regarding the letters. Removed. Edited October 16, 2019 by The Sovereign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia she/her Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Sovereign said: That doesn't rule out the possibly that Hoid was on Roshar longer doing other things but still the implication is he hasn't been there that long. Yup he definitely met sigzil before that and was training him to be a worldsinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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