patdizzy Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hi. Potential spoilers here... I don't quite get how Kabsal dies from the poison. He did eat the jam that happens to be the antidote, right? So how come he died? Thanks for the help! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Jasnah thought the poison was in the jam, so she tried to Soulcast it away. Instead, she accidentally soulcast away the antidote, so eating it had no effect. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patdizzy Posted September 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, RShara said: Jasnah thought the poison was in the jam, so she tried to Soulcast it away. Instead, she accidentally soulcast away the antidote, so eating it had no effect. But she would've done the same thing with Shallan, right? So she would've died as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, patdizzy said: But she would've done the same thing with Shallan, right? So she would've died as well. Yes, that's why Jasnah had to soulcast Shallan's blood multiple times, and why Shallan woke up in a hospital room. Shallan had eaten the bread (where the poison was) and hadn't eaten the antidote since it was gone. So she got poisoned and Jasnah had to fix her blood to save her. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patdizzy Posted September 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, RShara said: Yes, that's why Jasnah had to soulcast Shallan's blood multiple times, and why Shallan woke up in a hospital room. Shallan had eaten the bread (where the poison was) and hadn't eaten the antidote since it was gone. So she got poisoned and Jasnah had to fix her blood to save her. Oh, I see. Thank you for clearing that up. That part was confusing for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfphelps Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Kabsal poisoned the bread knowing Shallan was fond of jam and Jasnah was not, so he was confident Shallan would be unharmed if she had the poisoned bread because she was likely to have jam, and Jasnah would refuse the jam. So that was his plan to kill Jasnah without harming Shallan. Jasnah soulcast the jam thinking it was the poison, but she doesn't know what strawberry tastes like, since she never has sweets, which is why Shallan thought it was spoiled and smelled off, since Jasnah had soulcast it to her guess of what poison free jam would be. But Shallan didn't want to eat any because it smelled wrong, and Kabsal was insisting on eating the jam and having Shallan eat it regardless of the taste/smell, since he thought it was still the antidote. Shallan didn't have any antidote, so Jasnah had to purity her blood directly. Edited September 13, 2019 by cfphelps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, cfphelps said: since she never has sweets Wait what? How did I miss this detail? Women's food is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Yeah she just doesn't like jam, not necessarily sweets in general. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, RShara said: Yeah she just doesn't like jam, not necessarily sweets in general. I was hoping that this would be more of Jasnah's shocking masculine behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Karger said: I was hoping that this would be more of Jasnah's shocking masculine behavior. It might be. My point was, we don't actually know what she prefers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, RShara said: It might be. My point was, we don't actually know what she prefers. I did not catch anything but maybe @patdizzy did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfphelps Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Karger said: Wait what? How did I miss this detail? Women's food is sweet. Sorry I may have combined jam into all sweets in my head, knowing that Jasnah upsets the expectations so much, as I do recall women's food being sweet. It does seem like she doesn't indulge in desserts/sweets from the way she refuses the jams, but I might be miss-remembering those scenes to fit my head cannon! Edited September 13, 2019 by cfphelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 It's no that she doesn't like sweets, it just says a few times that Jasnah hates jam, which I take as her already being suspicious of food given to her by rivals, since it seems she's had experience with assassins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patdizzy Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Thanks for all the replies. This is so cool. I'm just thoroughly enjoying this book! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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