Elandera she/her Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Darkness Ascendant said: When?? I can't find a single post of you talking about targeting and shooting down 1b? And Shooting down?? It never went down my dude, clearly, it didn't. Sart still seems to be inactive and at this point I'd rather lynch Fura and see what information can be gathered from there and then move on. Furamirionind I think she meant 2B, as just a few posts prior she said she targeted 2B, not 1B. Could have just been a typing error. 22 hours ago, Furamirionind said: I destroyed 2B I also don't see why her knowing 2B was destroyed is suspicious. It clearly takes more than 2 people to take down one target. DA, you could have been redirected to a new target because two other people in a Fresa, MBot, or I'm assuming a higher Poco ship number, targeted 1B first and destroyed it. The first night I targeted 1H, but hit 1A.
+Ark1002 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Elandera said: I think she meant 2B, as just a few posts prior she said she targeted 2B, not 1B. Could have just been a typing error. 22 hours ago, Furamirionind said: Who's she?
Elandera she/her Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ark1002 said: Who's she? Fura. Which ship she knew was destroyed seems to be the reason she's being targeted.
+Ark1002 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Elandera said: Fura. Which ship she knew was destroyed seems to be the reason she's being targeted. I thought Fura was a he??
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 One of these signups i'm going to ask everyone to post their pronouns. Fura said here that she destroyed krell 2B Also, remember that that link will die once the thread gets merged.
+Ark1002 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said: One of these signups i'm going to ask everyone to post their pronouns. Fura said here that she destroyed krell 2B Also, remember that that link will die once the thread gets merged. so Fura is a she?? If so, I've been thinking about him/her/them wrong for a long time
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elandera said: I think she meant 2B, as just a few posts prior she said she targeted 2B, not 1B. Could have just been a typing error. I also don't see why her knowing 2B was destroyed is suspicious. It clearly takes more than 2 people to take down one target. DA, you could have been redirected to a new target because two other people in a Fresa, MBot, or I'm assuming a higher Poco ship number, targeted 1B first and destroyed it. The first night I targeted 1H, but hit 1A. I targeted 1-B night one, I said I would target 1-B night two. I brought it down to 3 health first night and was planning on finishing it off. Fura also said that they would target 1-B (for some reason), which I find suspicious. Fura has a faster ship than a Poco, as they destroyed 2-B before I did. And somebody destroyed 1-B before either of us did. So 3 people were targeting 1-B. Why would 3 people target one ship, when only one was necessary (me). I claimed to target 1-B first, then Fura did, and someone we do not know then targeted 1-B and had a ship faster than both of us. My shields got knocked out in the fight as well, @Furamirionind were your shields knocked too? In which case someone may have targeted 2-B with an IMB which affected all of us and made 2-B easier to kill. In the OoA, Gunners come before Destructors (and as far as ship actions go, Gunners and Pocos are equal). Fura's insistence they destroyed 2-B could be indicative of them being a Gunner as they could have gone earlier in the OoA (since Gunners can only gun and not use destructors). Or maybe its entirely wrong and a Largo used an IMB (thus jumping the OoA). Or we both used destructors and both destroyed 2-B. The suspicion rises from the multiple targeting of 1-B/2-B when multiple targets were not required. I claimed to target first, ages ago. And I've held suspicion of Fura before this. The real key is understanding who the third perpetrator on 1-B was, and Fura's lynch could potentially lead to that (Unless they claim a ship). Fura also never said she targeted 2-B, but that she targeted 1-B Of course, they could have changed their mind but that also sounds very strange to me. None of this is definite, there just are a lot of holes in this progression and I'm not sure what exactly happened that night. I have suspicions that I was the target for the Elim kill and multiple people targeted me/the ship I was targeting. Potentially Fura is an eliminator/Traitor who's plan got messed up by a Lightlance, or they're just a villager who got redirected alongside me due to whatever reason. The more I'm writing this the more I think of the latter honestly, Furamirionind. There simply are too many holes to make a solid judgement and perhaps pursuing Fura in a lynch for potential information is too rash. I do believe a Sart lynch would benefit us however, they've been playing incredibly strange all game, they've only posted 7 times, 3 of which are irrelevant. They repeat themselves twice in these posts. Both of which are very strangely worded and the focus on Gunners is a little too obtuse. Early lynches only favour Eliminators and Sart's inaction has been very eliminatory in my opinion. Then there's this funny post where he talks about inactivity...and I believe a lightlance is responsible for the lack of an elim kill. He claims to be suspicious of people with low activity levels, when he has directly ignored all my discussion about him and has himself been incredibly inactive. His vote on gaea is meaningless and as a whole it is, again, a fluff post. He hasn't contributed much all game and I do believe there is a strong chance of him being an Elim. Maybe they're the traitor, looking at this post; Which if one's being cynical directly preys on the misunderstanding surrounding the Traitor mechanic. If he turns out to be Traitor, then we know to shoot him up during the night. If he turns out to be elim, then yay for us! If he turns out to be villager...then well I don't mean to be harsh but. No big loss. Sart. Also @Mailliw73 I keep seeing you lurking and would love to hear more from you. Edited May 31, 2019 by Darkness Ascendant 1
Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Sorry, this whole ship thing confuses me so much. I’m having a hard time with reads since so much of the discussion is on these ships. When PMs come around, I’ll really try to be more active and get caught up in what’s happening.
Elandera she/her Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Darkness Ascendant said: I targeted 1-B night one, I said I would target 1-B night two. I brought it down to 3 health first night and was planning on finishing it off. Fura also said that they would target 1-B (for some reason), which I find suspicious. Fura has a faster ship than a Poco, as they destroyed 2-B before I did. And somebody destroyed 1-B before either of us did. So 3 people were targeting 1-B. 4 people would have had to target 1B Quote The krell forces include 1B, 1E, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, and 2E, which are at 5 health, and 1C, 1D, and 1F which are at 4 health. 3 health for all of them is comprised of their shields. Source: Beginning post for N2 I'm not sure what happened N1, but it seems either 1B regenerated its shield, or wasn't actually damaged. It appears in Steel's list as having full health. As for why multiple people would target ships, I don't find it unusual. We've had pretty bad coordination about what we're attacking. Especially if it includes people who are submitting actions but not following the posts closely. They might not have seen what was already claimed for a target. I do somewhat agree with you about Sart, though. For having more posts than most other less active players, they've been relatively without substance. Drake Marshall Sart
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Elandera said: 4 people would have had to target 1B Unless one of them was a Gunner right? 3 minutes ago, Elandera said: I'm not sure what happened N1, but it seems either 1B regenerated its shield, or wasn't actually damaged. It appears in Steel's list as having full health. My shields got taken out, if the first is the case then potentially one of the person who targeted it used an IMB and took everyone who targeted its shields. Potentially could have been a ploy to ensure everyone's shields were out so that one person in the fray could be taken out with a Gunner or something. (First attack takes out shields, second deals damage). 6 minutes ago, Elandera said: As for why multiple people would target ships, I don't find it unusual. We've had pretty bad coordination about what we're attacking. Especially if it includes people who are submitting actions but not following the posts closely. They might not have seen what was already claimed for a target. Maybe, but it was re-iterated a few times by me. In which case I do urge everyone to please for god's sake pay attention to the thread properly. Specially once the Traitor comes out (Since they cannot vote).
Elandera she/her Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 @Darkness Ascendant, quoting is panicking at the moment, so I'm tagging. I didn't think Gunners could use IMPs, as they aren't in ships. I could very well be wrong though. I'm still working to sort out the ship rules. And yes, if a gunner targets a Krell, it can 1-shot it.
Sart he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Vote Count: Drake Marshall (1): Elandera, Joe in the Bush Gaea (1): Sart Furamirionind (2): Drake Marshall, Ark1002, Darkness Ascendant Sart (3): Young Bard, Darkness Ascendant, Elandera Young Bard (1): Sart So, you want more substance? Day 1, there were only four votes cast, which tells us almost nothing. However, Day 2 may prove more illuminating. I'll leave off on Gaea for now, and instead vote on Young Bard. What's interesting to me is the deliberate shift to Stick after Young Bard became a candidate. I voted early on in the cycle. With my work, I'm only able to post near the beginning of the cycle, and potentially at the very end if traffic isn't bad. Likewise, Ark appears to have voted just to force a lynch. There's no reason to tie it up, but that's exactly what Mailliw did.That post seems off to me, and I suspect that it was an attempt to sway the lynch to someone other than Young Bard. Likewise, Drake Marshall did the same thing to protect Young Bard. I'm just confused how he got such a strong village read from Bard. In other news, I'm being lynched. In regards to the weird language in the post where I said, "We need to kill the Gunners" that was going to be the start of an RP, but I was tired and just made a quick vote instead. I'm not sure why, but my play style apparently makes me seem evil nowadays. I think my insistence on voting when posting rubs people the wrong way. If you feel you gain information from my lynch, I can't stop you. Still, I think I've hit on something with Bard, so I'd like you to at least consider him as a possibility. 3
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) I like Sart's post. I also Like DA's post Just came back from a robotics meeting, and too tired to take anything seriously. Will try more tomorrow. Edit: Also, just so people aren't too confused, I don't share my gender/what pronouns I use. Call me whatever you want. I don't care. For the sake of information though, I admit I don't go as "They/Them". (though you can still call me that if you would rather stay gender Neutral) Quick writing tip: when you use pronouns, they should stay consistent throughout a paragraph, and you should put the person's name before the first instance of them in each paragraph. If you are talking about 2 people with the same pronouns in 1 paragraph, the pronouns should almost always be referring to the name most recently mentioned! [/end of tip] (I admit, I find it amusing when people argue over my gender, but that isn't why I don't share it.) (Also Ark, too bad I didn't get to meet you at the Seattle signing. Then you would know 100% : P ) Edited May 31, 2019 by Furamirionind added writing tip!! 1
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Elandera said: @Darkness Ascendant, quoting is panicking at the moment, so I'm tagging. I didn't think Gunners could use IMPs, as they aren't in ships. I could very well be wrong though. I'm still working to sort out the ship rules. And yes, if a gunner targets a Krell, it can 1-shot it. Nah they can't, but they can convince someone else to- or the traitor could. 24 minutes ago, Sart said: Vote Count: Drake Marshall (1): Elandera, Joe in the Bush Gaea (1): Sart Furamirionind (2): Drake Marshall, Ark1002, Darkness Ascendant Sart (3): Young Bard, Darkness Ascendant, Elandera Young Bard (1): Sart So, you want more substance? Day 1, there were only four votes cast, which tells us almost nothing. However, Day 2 may prove more illuminating. I'll leave off on Gaea for now, and instead vote on Young Bard. What's interesting to me is the deliberate shift to Stick after Young Bard became a candidate. I voted early on in the cycle. With my work, I'm only able to post near the beginning of the cycle, and potentially at the very end if traffic isn't bad. Likewise, Ark appears to have voted just to force a lynch. There's no reason to tie it up, but that's exactly what Mailliw did.That post seems off to me, and I suspect that it was an attempt to sway the lynch to someone other than Young Bard. Likewise, Drake Marshall did the same thing to protect Young Bard. I'm just confused how he got such a strong village read from Bard. In other news, I'm being lynched. In regards to the weird language in the post where I said, "We need to kill the Gunners" that was going to be the start of an RP, but I was tired and just made a quick vote instead. I'm not sure why, but my play style apparently makes me seem evil nowadays. I think my insistence on voting when posting rubs people the wrong way. If you feel you gain information from my lynch, I can't stop you. Still, I think I've hit on something with Bard, so I'd like you to at least consider him as a possibility. I don't want substance from you, I want you to simply be as active as you can be. It would have been good to know about how the cycles worked for you earlier. And yeah, I've had my eyes on Bard and Ark as well. Maills been lurking which is suspicious to me as well. Yeah, I'm planning on a big post either tonight or tomorrow regarding a few players but for the most part I must admit I've just been annoyed with your contributions to discussion/the inane votes. That coupled with the inactivity is what made me suspicious of you the most but considering your justifications I'm willing to back down from them. I'll keep my vote on you for now until I look at bard/maill/ark tonight. I agree with everything you've said about them. What's going to change with the PMs? @Mailliw73 And @Furamirionind is that because I took my vote off of you? Edited May 31, 2019 by Darkness Ascendant
Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 With PMs someone can hopefully bring me up to speed. Unless you want to do it now, that works too. If someone would kindly summarize what's happened so far, I've been quite preoccupied with the other game. I'd not have joined 2 games at once, but I wanted Steel to have a good send off.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Mailliw73 said: With PMs someone can hopefully bring me up to speed. Unless you want to do it now, that works too. If someone would kindly summarize what's happened so far, I've been quite preoccupied with the other game. I'd not have joined 2 games at once, but I wanted Steel to have a good send off. Well in that case yeah, I'm not the guy for that- haven't been paying much attention outside of stuff concerning me cos of time and preoccupations.
Elandera she/her Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mailliw73 said: With PMs someone can hopefully bring me up to speed. Unless you want to do it now, that works too. If someone would kindly summarize what's happened so far, I've been quite preoccupied with the other game. I'd not have joined 2 games at once, but I wanted Steel to have a good send off. I'll see what I can do, but it's based on memory (except for votes) so it very well could be flawed. D1 Mostly RP. Some discussion about the worth of voting. In the end, no one was lynched and only 4 votes stuck. Fura voted on Ark Ela voted on CadCom Sart voted CadCom DA voted on Ark Ela switched from CadCom to Stick DA switched from Ark to Ela N1 Mostly RP, or questions and clarifications about space battles, and a largely failed attempt to coordinate any kind of attack. Devotary proposed probably one of the better plans, and was subsequently killed. D2 Votes got started early, mostly a standard D1 lynch, based on vague suspicions and possible information to be gained Sart votes on Stick Ark votes on Stick right after Bard votes on Fura Striker votes on Sart Stick votes on Bard Ela votes on Walin Ela switches to Bard Fura votes on Sart CadCom votes on Bard (putting him in lead) Drake votes on Joe Maill votes on Stick (tie) DA votes on Bard (lead) Drake votes on Stick (tie) Ela switches to Stick (getting rid of tie) N2 Talk about the SK with the rise of MBot, then attempts at coordination on attacking. Not many ideas were thrown out for coordinating beyond what the Largos could take out alone. 3
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Darkness Ascendant said: I don't want substance from you, I want you to simply be as active as you can be. It would have been good to know about how the cycles worked for you earlier. personally, i see little difference between that distinction... 1 hour ago, Darkness Ascendant said: And @Furamirionind is that because I took my vote off of you? No! Well, not completely. I must admit I appreciate it. When I came back to the game, I forgot rollover was extended and thought the turn would be over, then saw like 3 people vote on me. So you can imagine I was a bit releaved when I saw your retraction. But no, I like your progression on me. You don't stick to your opinion because it is yours, and I can see your thought process on why you took your vote off. That is what I liked.
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 So, I didn't really get on much today because I was busy, which I had been expecting. But I forgot that I'm leaving to drive down to Austin around noon tomorrow and I've now got a private lesson in the morning I need to go to. I probably won't be able to get on much for the rest of this cycle, so I'm gonna go ahead and cast my vote on Sart for now. If Sart turns out to be elim, I'd say there's a pretty good chance Bard is elim. The only reason I think Sart would focus so much on getting Bard lynched right now, instead of trying to defend himself (assuming he's an elim) would be so that he could potentially clear himself if Bard is lynched. If Sart turns out to be village, Bart is probably less likely to be an elim. Not ruling it out completely though, because I think Sart does make some good points about Bard. Anyway, I think DA is probably elim if Sart is village. Unless they're just playing a really high level game of two elims publicly fighting it out in the thread so that one of them can come out with the trust of the whole village.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said: So, I didn't really get on much today because I was busy, which I had been expecting. But I forgot that I'm leaving to drive down to Austin around noon tomorrow and I've now got a private lesson in the morning I need to go to. I probably won't be able to get on much for the rest of this cycle, so I'm gonna go ahead and cast my vote on Sart for now. If Sart turns out to be elim, I'd say there's a pretty good chance Bard is elim. The only reason I think Sart would focus so much on getting Bard lynched right now, instead of trying to defend himself (assuming he's an elim) would be so that he could potentially clear himself if Bard is lynched. If Sart turns out to be village, Bart is probably less likely to be an elim. Not ruling it out completely though, because I think Sart does make some good points about Bard. Anyway, I think DA is probably elim if Sart is village. Unless they're just playing a really high level game of two elims publicly fighting it out in the thread so that one of them can come out with the trust of the whole village. According to your logic, I feel like your vote should be on Bard. 1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said: Bart Hehehehe
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Furamirionind said: According to your logic, I feel like your vote should be on Bard. I mean, I think Bard is a little suspicious right now, but I think Sart is more suspicious. I feel like lynching Sart will tell us a lot more than lynching Bard will and that lynching Bard is exactly what elim!Sart would want us to do. 2 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: Hehehehe It's past midnight, okay?
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: personally, i see little difference between that distinction... No! Well, not completely. I must admit I appreciate it. When I came back to the game, I forgot rollover was extended and thought the turn would be over, then saw like 3 people vote on me. So you can imagine I was a bit releaved when I saw your retraction. But no, I like your progression on me. You don't stick to your opinion because it is yours, and I can see your thought process on why you took your vote off. That is what I liked. yeah, I'm a very think out loud kind of guy. I was debating trying to somehow twist it to make my vote on you work but I had to admit defeat Sometimes your worst enemy is yourself. (Also your best friend) 13 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: So, I didn't really get on much today because I was busy, which I had been expecting. But I forgot that I'm leaving to drive down to Austin around noon tomorrow and I've now got a private lesson in the morning I need to go to. I probably won't be able to get on much for the rest of this cycle, so I'm gonna go ahead and cast my vote on Sart for now. If Sart turns out to be elim, I'd say there's a pretty good chance Bard is elim. The only reason I think Sart would focus so much on getting Bard lynched right now, instead of trying to defend himself (assuming he's an elim) would be so that he could potentially clear himself if Bard is lynched. If Sart turns out to be village, Bart is probably less likely to be an elim. Not ruling it out completely though, because I think Sart does make some good points about Bard. Anyway, I think DA is probably elim if Sart is village. Unless they're just playing a really high level game of two elims publicly fighting it out in the thread so that one of them can come out with the trust of the whole village. Well then, its almost like Sart and I can't both be village. I know I'm village what are you Striker? :hmmm: Sart 1
StrikerEZ he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Darkness Ascendant said: Well then, its almost like Sart and I can't both be village. I know I'm village what are you Striker? :hmmm: *snip* Sart Wait...so you're not gonna vote on Sart? You were basically the main reason I even am suspicious of Sart to begin with. And I wasn't saying I think you're an elim, because I'm pretty sure that Sart is an elim. I'm just saying that, if Sart is actually village, I think it's more likely that you are an elim.
Furamirionind They/Any/All Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Darkness Ascendant said: Well then, its almost like Sart and I can't both be village. I know I'm village what are you Striker? :hmmm: It's a little early in the game for striker to attempt this as an elim. Hot take: I think Striker probably village. Edited May 31, 2019 by Furamirionind made my post clearer.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Wait...so you're not gonna vote on Sart? You were basically the main reason I even am suspicious of Sart to begin with. And I wasn't saying I think you're an elim, because I'm pretty sure that Sart is an elim. I'm just saying that, if Sart is actually village, I think it's more likely that you are an elim. 47 minutes ago, Furamirionind said: It's a little early in the game for striker to attempt this as an elim. Hot take: I think Striker probably village. I actually think both of you are village Sart I'm not so sure about being an elim anymore. His response to everything has instilled some reasonable doubt in me. And well, if you're going to condemn someone to capital punishment there should be beyond that. I don't feel comfortable lynching him at this stage.
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