Nomic - A Forum Game

[AonEne he/him]

6 minutes ago, MiToRo94 said:

New Rule Proposal:

Don't Leave the Eggs to Spoil: At the end of each 24 hour period - to be established at midnight EDT for consistency - if none of the players have earned any Eggs (defined as a net positive gain of Eggs for any one player) during those 24 hours (not including Eggs earned from this rule as of the previous 24 hour period), then all players immediately earn 1000 points.

I do not support this rule.

I propose that porpoises be banned from this thread.

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Hey, why is it called Nomic anyway?

[Jaywalk he/him]

I propose that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread.

[MiToRo94 he/him]

2 minutes ago, Jaywalk said:

I propose that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread.

UNO! Violation of rule 15, you lose 10 Eggs.

 

Rule 15:

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[AonEne he/him]

5 minutes ago, Jaywalk said:

I propose that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread.

I do not support this. Also, UNO! Rule 15 - Act of Dog/Cat Inclusion! Never mind, I've been ninjaed.

 

I propose an amendment to the Porpoise Ban - blobfish are also banned from this thread.

Edited April 2, 2019 by AonEne

[Voidus]

37 minutes ago, MiToRo94 said:

New Rule Proposal:

Don't Leave the Eggs to Spoil: At the end of each 24 hour period - to be established at midnight EDT for consistency - if none of the players have earned any Eggs (defined as a net positive gain of Eggs for any one player) during those 24 hours (not including Eggs earned from this rule as of the previous 24 hour period), then all players immediately earn 1000 points.

I do not support this rule
:3

28 minutes ago, AonEne said:

I propose that porpoises be banned from this thread.

Or this.
 

21 minutes ago, Jaywalk said:

I propose that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread.

Or this.

I propose the following:
Voidus' rule of things - If a player posts the word 'things' in any post (Editing it in does not count) then they are to be awarded 20 Eggs. However if someone quotes said post within 1 hour of its posting and replies 'and stuff' then the original player loses 10 Eggs, does not gain any Eggs that they would otherwise gain, and the player who quoted them gains 10 Eggs.

Also, just for future reference: I intend for whitespace on this and all future posts to be construed as being similar to a dog and/or cat that happens to blend perfectly into a white backtround for the purposes of satisfying rule 15. And as that is my intention, per the literal rule that is how it must be interpreted.

[MetaTerminal he/him]

9 minutes ago, AonEne said:

Hey, why is it called Nomic anyway?

That is what the game’s inventor, Peter Suber, named it when it was invented in 1982. Apparently the word is derived from the Greek word nomos, meaning ‘law’.

3 minutes ago, Jaywalk said:

I propose that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread.

This is UNO, unfortunately. However, Eggs don’t really mean much at this point anyway, so this is no reason for concern.

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I want to comment briefly on the shape of the game as it exists - we’ve got an outline of a functional rule-changing system, with currency rules on their way (it would be splendid if @Jaywalk could vote on all proposals, though I am aware that there are many. The majority amount has also risen to 7.) But we don’t really have a game. Nothing to strategise about, or win or lose. Right now we’re just waiting for other people to make mistakes, and then call them out on it. Fun, sure. But not sustainable. Having more Egg rules passed would serve to fix this somewhat (especially the Maybe Rule, and the Duel of Aww Rule) but I’m thinking more long term.

I proposed the Chessboard Rule a while back, but it didn’t really fly. I’d like to return to that briefly. Having the Chessboard Rule would be a way to make sure that we had a game. It’s a game of chess - once implemented, we can make changes to the rules (different coloured pieces, different game pieces, extra squares, different colours for squares, extra dimensions and Realms, zones on the board, rules about movement, rules about Egg consumption after moves... I just brainstormed those in a few seconds, so there is basically endless opportunity for development here) that allow the Nomic to develop further. Obviously, if people don’t like chess, then there’s no reason to go for this rule specifically. But I think that something should be implemented. Preferably a board game, or something that tracks its own state easily (if we wanted to focus on Eggs, then we could make corporations, tax laws, products, etc... though I think an external form would also serve to work alongside this and allow more clear gameplay). It could be anything, really. But I think something along these lines would be a good idea.

8 minutes ago, AonEne said:

The beauty of all this, of course, is that you can take my opinion for a grain of salt.

[AonEne he/him]

2 minutes ago, Voidus said:

...does not gain any Eggs that they would otherwise gain...

Wait, so they wouldn't gain the Eggs from saying things?

5 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Also, just for future reference: I intend for whitespace on this and all future posts to be construed as being similar to a dog and/or cat that happens to blend perfectly into a white backtround for the purposes of satisfying rule 15. And as that is my intention, per the literal rule that is how it must be interpreted.

I actually check every post for white text.

4 minutes ago, MetaTerminal said:

I want to comment briefly on the shape of the game as it exists - we’ve got an outline of a functional rule-changing system, with currency rules on their way (it would be splendid if @Jaywalk could vote on all proposals, though I am aware that there are many. The majority amount has also risen to 7.) But we don’t really have a game. Nothing to strategise about, or win or lose. Right now we’re just waiting for other people to make mistakes, and then call them out on it. Fun, sure. But not sustainable. Having more Egg rules passed would serve to fix this somewhat (especially the Maybe Rule, and the Duel of Aww Rule) but I’m thinking more long term.

I proposed the Chessboard Rule a while back, but it didn’t really fly. I’d like to return to that briefly. Having the Chessboard Rule would be a way to make sure that we had a game. It’s a game of chess - once implemented, we can make changes to the rules (different coloured pieces, different game pieces, extra squares, different colours for squares, extra dimensions and Realms, zones on the board, rules about movement, rules about Egg consumption after moves... I just brainstormed those in a few seconds, so there is basically endless opportunity for development here) that allow the Nomic to develop further. Obviously, if people don’t like chess, then there’s no reason to go for this rule specifically. But I think that something should be implemented. Preferably a board game, or something that tracks its own state easily (if we wanted to focus on Eggs, then we could make corporations, tax laws, products, etc... though I think an external form would also serve to work alongside this and allow more clear gameplay). It could be anything, really. But I think something along these lines would be a good idea.

The beauty of all this, of course, is that you can take my opinion for a grain of salt.

I was hoping to start something with the president thing - when do we collect votes? Right now I have the majority. If a couple other things could be passed into effect, I have ideas...

I'm not a chess person, but again, if some of this stuff is passed I'd be happy to act on it.

[Voidus]

1 minute ago, AonEne said:

Wait, so they wouldn't gain the Eggs from saying things?

No. So if you say it and get caught then you lose points instead. :3

[AonEne he/him]

1 minute ago, Voidus said:

No. So if you say it and get caught then you lose points instead. :3

Scary. Why would you ever do that, then?

[Voidus]

Just now, AonEne said:

Scary. Why would you ever do that, then?

It's basically just betting 10 points that no one will see it. So if no one does then you get 20 points. :3

[AonEne he/him]

4 minutes ago, Voidus said:

It's basically just betting 10 points that no one will see it. So if no one does then you get 20 points. :3

Okay. I support that.

Meaning I must propose something, so I insist upon the Rule of Voting: Everyone who participates in the game must vote on at least five waiting proposals. We need to move some of these along!

Edited April 2, 2019 by AonEne
forgot to quote Voidus for clarity

[MetaTerminal he/him]

13 minutes ago, AonEne said:

I was hoping to start something with the president thing - when do we collect votes? Right now I have the majority. If a couple other things could be passed into effect, I have ideas...

I was going to collect votes when 1) one person attains a majority of votes (ie 7, when votes by non-players have been removed); 2) when everyone has voted; 3) when no additional votes from players will change the outcome. Technically, 1 and 2 are subsets of 3.

That being said, proposing the other things should happen early, since it takes about 12 hours for something to be passed into effect if it’s popular. Unless the new rules advantage the president, and you want to pass it when you’re the president, in which case I don’t care for it much either way.

Existing Rules (ie rules that are in effect):

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1. The Main Idea: Players take turns suggesting rules, or amendments to or the removal of existing rules.
2. The Voting Clause: Upon a majority vote of more than three players, said amendments or removals are taken into effect. (Note: no rule is exempt from this rule, including this one, unless superseded by another rule.)
3. The Winning Rule: The winning player shall be the first player that wins. When one player wins, all other players lose.
4. The Points Rule: The winning player shall be the first player to reach one million points.

6. The Literal Rule: All things, including rules, can be interpreted literally or not as they were intended, so long as it makes sense.

7. The Unnamed Proposal: just for clarification, voting for amendments should be in red and removals should be in green.

8. The Trading Rule: each player starts with 0 points. Players can give points to other players, or - with the agreement of said other player - ‘trade’ something for points. Once both players agree on the terms, the transfer occurs automatically.

11. Meta’s Clause: That every post that passes judgement (ie votes for or against) a rule must also propose a new rule. Should a vote be made without also proposing a new rule, then said vote is considered void until an associated rule is proposed.

12. First Law of Dapper: Points are to be hereafter refered to as Eggs.

13. Second Law of Dapper: Every ten Eggs you get your Coolness Level goes up by one.

14. Third Law of Dapper: Each Coolness Level make you cooler.

15. The Act of Dog Inclusion: Every post from here on out must have an image of a dog in it, real or fake, picture or gif, wordless or meme, so long as it's not inappropriate. The Act of Dog Inclusion also allows depictions of cats to fulfill its requirements.

18. The Original Version of the Rule of Honor: That anyone with the ability to modify the posts of others (mods/admins) or make minute, unnoticeable changes to the laws when listing them (Meta or anyone else who does) NOT be allowed to do so - no cheating, people.

20. The Negative Rule: Any player can have negative points if they have lost more points than they currently have, but a player cannot have more negative points than the total amount of points needed to win.

21. MiToRo's Rule of Punishment: Any post that breaks a rule that has been in effect for longer than 15 minutes - to give time for those who have simply not refreshed their page - shall cause that poster to lose 10 points.

25. The UNO Rule. If at any time, a post violates the rules, someone must point it out by quoting the post and saying ‘UNO!’ in order to implement any Egg changes or changes in game state - ie cheating in and of itself does not trigger any rules, but instead someone has to point it out. There is no time limit on UNO.

31. The Beginnings of Democracy: We have a poll and whoever gets the most votes is the president, who gets the ability to give up to 50 points to anyone but themselves.

36. The French Law: at any time, a member of the ‘public’ (ie a non-presidential person) may declare a vote to overthrow the president. If a majority vote is attained, the person who started the poll becomes the new president in the place of the old one.

39. The Paradox of Retroactive Rulings: Rules will never retroactively apply to posts made prior to the rule being voted into effect - unless directly stated otherwise in the rule. This applies to Eggs given or taken for certain kinds of posts, as well as rule infractions that would lead to any sort of punishment.

58. The Fairness Rule: that Meta shall receive a one-time sum of ten Eggs upon the passing of this rule.

59. The Slightly Altered Internal Consistency Plea: that the Literal Rule be rephrased as “All things, including rules, can be interpreted literally or metaphorically - as they were assumed to be intended - so long as it makes sense; and that any associated implications of the rule not explicitly stated should also be interpreted as true - this includes taking the spirit of a rule, even if the actual letter of the rule differs slightly due to a small technicality. This plea applies retroactively, with one exception: this plea does not apply to the post where this plea was introduced.”

Proposed Rules:

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5. The Equal Opportunity Act: any rule that discriminates based on the identities of players outside of the game (including screenname, rank, etc.) shall be considered invalid. (5)

9. Ene’s First Rule: one way for points to be given should be by awarding them to people based on rules of theirs that go into effect, three per rule. (5)

10. Ene’s Second Rule: I also propose the rule that players must keep track of how many points they have in their signatures, About Mes, titles, or in each of their posts on this thread. (3)

16. Voidus’ Law of Unfair Advantage: All those who support this rule shall gain two points for every point that is gained by someone who did not support this rule. (4)

17. Voidus' Rule of Potential Karmic Retribution: Should a player propose a rule to change the name of 'points', that player is to be referred to by the name they suggest changing points to, until such a time as the rule is adopted. (5)

19. The Rule for Meta’s Sanity: that Voidus be unable to edit posts in the thread for his own benefit, under threat of immediately losing the game; and that Rule 16 shall be considered irrevocably immoral and unimplementable, from now and in perpetuity, and that should it be passed Voidus will immediately lose the game. (5)

22. MiToRo's Rule of Forgiveness: Whenever a player has negative points, that player may post an apology - no shorter than 3 full sentences, and unique to each other player - to other players in order to regain 1 point per apology. (4)

23. Reputation Points Rule: For each reputation awarded to a post, that poster gains 10 points. (3)

24. Everyone Is A Winner Rule: Any time a proposal - new rule, amendment, removal, or any other rule adjustment - gains unanimous support, the proposer gains 10 points, while the first 2 supporters (after the original proposer) gain 5 points. Unanimous support here means that all players vote in favor of the rule until the rule goes into effect; once the rule would go into effect, future voters who vote against it will not affect the points given by this rule. (4)

26. The Self Punishment Act: If a player breaks a rule, they will be able to decide what their punishment is. (2)

27. The Fair Play Act: If a player cannot obey a rule for 'reasons' then they receive no punishment. (3)

28. The Act that Concerns the Frequency of Turns (or ACFT): as stated by the Main Idea, you may only create new rules or amendments on your turn. You may only take a turn if two other people have taken their turn between now and your most previous turn, or if you have not taken your turn in over 24 hours. You do not have to propose a rule on your turn (unless otherwise indicated, eg by Meta’s Clause). (5)

29. The Chessboard Rule: there exists a standard chessboard, originally starting as the starting piece positions for white and black. Each player may elect one piece on the board as theirs - during their turn, they may move their piece as per the standard rules of chess. Checking a piece (checks being defined as per standard chess rules) which is controlled by another player (the ‘recipient’) gains the moving player 100 points, and loses the recipient 100 points. Mutual checks provide no point increase or deduction for either side. (3)

30. The Rule that Says You’ve Lost the Game (or RSYLG): every player must lose the Game at least once every ten turns. Other players are morally obligated to remind players when this requirement due. To announce the fact that you have lost the Game, say in a post during which you have taken your turn, “I have lost the Game.” (4)

32. New Rule the First: New proposed rules must rhyme, this rule will last till the end of time. (3)

33. New Rule the Second: Every 10 eggs will be referred to as a "Basket". (4)

34. Participation Eggs: Once per 24 hour period, if a player makes a post and votes on all current proposals as well as submits at least one new proposal, that player gains 25 Eggs. (5)

35. Non-Participation Eggs: In any 24 hour period, if any player makes more than one post that does not include votes on all current proposals, that player loses 25 Eggs per post after their first without necessary votes. (5)

37. Fair Start: Any new player who starts the game after this point will begin with a number of Eggs equal to the player with the next lowest amount of Eggs - this could still be 0. (5)

38. Duel of Awww: Any player may challenge another player to a Duel of Awww, along with a bet amount. The challenger may bet any number of Eggs up to the current total Eggs held by the lesser of the two players; if one or both players has 0 Eggs, the bet is automatically set to 10 Eggs. The Duel of Awww begins once the challenged player accepts the duel in a new post. The public (all other players not participating in the duel) votes on which of the two duelers has the better animal picture - as per rule 15 - based on any arbitrary qualifications they would like. The animal pictures used for the duel will be the ones posted in the challenge post and the acceptance post, and must have both been a picture taken/drawn/created by the respective dueler. Once a majority vote has been reached, the winner gains the bet amount in Eggs and the loser loses the same amount, unless the loser has fewer Eggs - in the case of starting with 0 points - then the loser goes to 0 total Eggs while the winner gains 10 Eggs. (4)

40. The Taxation Rule: The US tax code applies in its entirety to all points gained in whatever manner. (2)

41. The Spikes Rule: Spiking newcomers in the Intro thread gives the spiker 100 points. This rule applies retroactively. (2)

42. The Rule of Exceptions: that rules that are multiples of 1, 2, 4, and 8 are exempt from rules that are multiples of 3. (1)

43. The Brevity Act: that there be a maximum of 50 proposed rules at any one time. Players may also vote to strike proposals from consideration - once a majority is reached, the vote is struck from consideration, and must be reintroduced and reattain all votes in order to reach a majority. (3)

44. The rule of rules actually meaning something: Any post that violates a rule shall be considered void of all meaning for the purposes of this game, specifically no votes in said post shall be counted, no rules proposed shall be voted upon, no points can be gained, no other rules that would apply any benefit or punishment outside of this rule shall take effect until said post is in accordance with all rules. (4 - Kidpen needs to approve the amendment for their vote to count.)

45. The Maybe A Rule So We Can Actually Start Earning Eggs? Rule: At any time, any group of players (at least 2) may compete in any game available to them (whether online or in person, as long as it can be verified). Examples include, but are not limited to, a game of chess, a pokemon battle, a footrace around the world, etc... Upon completion of the game, the winner gains a number of Eggs equal to 100 x the number of other players (i.e. the winner gains 100 Eggs if the game was only between two players), and the losers lose 100 Eggs each, unless a different amount was specified in a challenge post to initiate the game. In the case of a tie, the following occurs: if all players tie for the win, no Eggs are gained or lost; if some but not all participating players tie for the win, each winner gains a number of Eggs equal to 100 x the number of losers / the number of winners, and each loser still loses 100 Eggs. (4)

46. The law of inactivity: If a player does not comment supporting a rule, then their vote will count as a no. (2)

47. The Discord of Disputes: In order to prevent this thread from being over-cluttered with meta-discussion (i.e. discussion about the game in a meta sense, not about the player, MetaTerminal), we should have a Discord channel for all meta-discussion. This channel should be completely exempt from all rules in order to allow for unrestricted discussion and quick resolutions to any disputes. If the players would like separate channels for other discussion (e.g. off-topic, new rule ideas without actually submitting them, commenting on particularly dramatic happenings within the game without cluttering up this thread, etc...) that will be allowed. This Discord channel would also be an good place to have easy access to a pinned list of all currently active rules and proposals. (1)

48. The President of Discord: In the event that we have a Discord channel and we have an elected president as per rule 31, the President will be in charge of keeping the Discord up to date. (1)

49. Dapper Anti Rule 15Act: Anyone who posts a photo in relation to rule 15 loses all their Coolness Levels and 6 pounds of Eggs. (1)

50. Discarded Proposal: If any proposal has been left unapproved after a total of 24 hours, and during that time a number of players equal to the number necessary for approving it with a majority vote have been active, that proposal will immediately be dismissed and have to be re-submitted without any votes. (2)

51. The PM of Productivity: Same thing (in reference to Rule 47), but with a PM. I'm fine there being a President of the PM also. (2)

52. The Internal Consistency Plea: that the Literal Rule be rephrased as “All things, including rules, can be interpreted literally or metaphorically - as they were assumed to be intended - so long as it makes sense; and that any associated implications of the rule not explicitly stated should also be interpreted as true - this includes taking the spirit of a rule, even if the actual letter of the rule differs slightly due to a small technicality. This plea applies retroactively.” (2)

53. The not internally consistent rule: No rules have to be consistent with anything. Even themselves. (1)

54. The Voidus law of mayhem: People should be able to interpret anything in any logically consistent manner. (3)

55. The Last Will and Testament: If any player wishes to leave the game, they may do so freely. In doing so, they may select another current player to receive all of the retiring player's Eggs (only a positive number of Eggs may be given), or choose to allow the Eggs to expire without going to anyone else. (3)

56. Musical Page Proposal: that the first person to post on the tenth, twentieth, thirtieth, and so on (you guys know what I mean, please interpret this seriously - I just don't want to type infinity out) pages of this thread must include a CLEAN music video in their post. If they don't notice they're going to be that post and edit it in a few minutes later, they have not broken this rule. (2)

57. New Rule Proposal: MiToRo wins! If this rule is put into effect, MiToRo immediately gains 1 million Eggs and wins. (3)

60. The Proposal Proposal: If a player has ever been married or engaged, including in a roleplay, that player gets one Egg every time they lose any amount of Eggs. (2)

61. The Following Proposal: From here on out, winning is actually bad. (1)

62. Ene’s Third Rule: that rules allowing players to automatically win not be allowed for submission. (2)

63. Meta’s Clause Removal: That Meta’s Clause should be removed from the rules and no longer be in effect. (2)

64. Title Rule: All rules, amendments, and the like must have names. (2)

65. Don't Leave the Eggs to Spoil: At the end of each 24 hour period - to be established at midnight EDT for consistency - if none of the players have earned any Eggs (defined as a net positive gain of Eggs for any one player) during those 24 hours (not including Eggs earned from this rule as of the previous 24 hour period), then all players immediately earn 1000 points. (1)

66. Ene’s Fourth Rule: that porpoises be banned from this thread. (1)

67. Jaywalk’s First Declaration: that we make porpoises the mascot of this thread. (1)

68. Voidus' Rule of Things: If a player posts the word 'things' in any post (Editing it in does not count) then they are to be awarded 20 Eggs. However if someone quotes said post and says 'and stuff' then the original player loses 10 Eggs, does not gain any Eggs that they would otherwise gain, and the player who quoted them gains 10 Eggs. (2)

69. Rule of Voting: Everyone who participates in the game must vote on at least five waiting proposals. We need to move some of these along! (1)

Proposed Amendments:

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* That the Winning Rule be ammended so that the authors of this and the next two posts directly after it be the winners. (2)

* In reference to the First Law of Dapper: 'Eggs' will be changed to a lowercase 'eggs'. (4)

* I would like to amend my own rule (16. Voidus’ Law of Unfair Advantage) to addend the following: No rule or ammendment may be passed or voted on if that rule would alter any part of Voidus’ Law of Unfair Advantage or punish those who have voted in favour of Voidus' Law of Unfair Advantage. And no person who has only conditionally voted in favour of Voidus’ Law of Unfair Advantage shall count as having voted for it, except for the purposes of passing the rule. (1)

* To change the name of the rule from The Act of Dog Inclusion to The Act of Animal Inclusion, and to allow depictions of any animal to fulfill its requirements, so long as the poster genuinely appreciates the animal being posted - whether that is in cuteness, silliness, or any other positive feeling. (5)

* amendment to 15: You must use a picture different from every picture you've used so far. The Internet is big, there are enough. (1)

* amendment to the winning rule. Along with having 1 million points, having -1 million points also makes you win. (2)

Edited April 2, 2019 by MetaTerminal

[MacThorstenson he/him]

I would propose a few rules for clarification and organization to damnation if I break any currently standing rules:

Mac's First rule of organization: 

For a rule to make it onto the list of rules that can be considered (the waitlist), someone needs to propose it, and another person needs to second it.

Mac's Second rule of organization: 

There is a list of 15 rules that can be voted on at any given moment (the waitlist), regardless of how many rules have been submitted and seconded.

Mac's third rule of organization:

Rules are divided into categories based on what they cover. Examples could include: Acquisition, Removal, or Transfer of eggs, Fun things (E.X. rule 15). Player rules (like the rule of inactivity). There is no limit to the amount of categories, but people should make an honest effort to try to fit rules into categories.

[Voidus]

14 minutes ago, AonEne said:

Okay. I support that.

Meaning I must propose something, so I insist upon the Rule of Voting: Everyone who participates in the game must vote on at least five waiting proposals. We need to move some of these along!

Supported.

1 minute ago, MacThorstenson said:

I would propose a few rules for clarification and organization to damnation if I break any currently standing rules:

Mac's First rule of organization: 

For a rule to make it onto the list of rules that can be considered (the waitlist), someone needs to propose it, and another person needs to second it.

Mac's Second rule of organization: 

There is a list of 15 rules that can be voted on at any given moment (the waitlist), regardless of how many rules have been submitted and seconded.

Mac's third rule of organization:

Rules are divided into categories based on what they cover. Examples could include: Acquisition, Removal, or Transfer of eggs, Fun things (E.X. rule 15). Player rules (like the rule of inactivity). There is no limit to the amount of categories, but people should make an honest effort to try to fit rules into categories.

Supported :3 

Voidus' Ultimatum of Doom! (Also known as: Everything is RP)
All players shall create a character sheet containing basic details for a character that shall represent the player in a collaborative RP. Every post that a player makes in-character for the character represented by the character sheet shall earn that player 1 point.

(Keep in mind that winning requires 1,000,000 Eggs, and also that additional Eggs may be awarded through subsequent rules)

[MacThorstenson he/him]

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5. The Equal Opportunity Act: any rule that discriminates based on the identities of players outside of the game (including screenname, rank, etc.) shall be considered invalid. (5)

22. MiToRo's Rule of Forgiveness: Whenever a player has negative points, that player may post an apology - no shorter than 3 full sentences, and unique to each other player - to other players in order to regain 1 point per apology. (4)

32. New Rule the First: New proposed rules must rhyme, this rule will last till the end of time. (3)

46. The law of inactivity: If a player does not comment supporting a rule, then their vote will count as a no. (2)

50. Discarded Proposal: If any proposal has been left unapproved after a total of 24 hours, and during that time a number of players equal to the number necessary for approving it with a majority vote have been active, that proposal will immediately be dismissed and have to be re-submitted without any votes. (2)

51. The PM of Productivity: Same thing (in reference to Rule 47), but with a PM. I'm fine there being a President of the PM also. (2)

52. The Internal Consistency Plea: that the Literal Rule be rephrased as “All things, including rules, can be interpreted literally or metaphorically - as they were assumed to be intended - so long as it makes sense; and that any associated implications of the rule not explicitly stated should also be interpreted as true - this includes taking the spirit of a rule, even if the actual letter of the rule differs slightly due to a small technicality. This plea applies retroactively.” (2)

54. The Voidus law of mayhem: People should be able to interpret anything in any logically consistent manner. (3)

55. The Last Will and Testament: If any player wishes to leave the game, they may do so freely. In doing so, they may select another current player to receive all of the retiring player's Eggs (only a positive number of Eggs may be given), or choose to allow the Eggs to expire without going to anyone else. (3)

63. Meta’s Clause Removal: That Meta’s Clause should be removed from the rules and no longer be in effect. (2)

64. Title Rule: All rules, amendments, and the like must have names. (2)

69. Rule of Voting: Everyone who participates in the game must vote on at least five waiting proposals. We need to move some of these along! (1)

I am voting for the above rules

[MetaTerminal he/him]

14 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Every post that a player makes in-character for the character represented by the character sheet shall earn that player 1 point.

UNO! Dapper’s First Law! You lose 10 Eggs. :3 

[Voidus]

Just now, MetaTerminal said:

UNO! Dapper’s First Law! You lose 10 Eggs. :3 

Dappers First law states that the plural should be Eggs, it says nothing about the singular case of Eggs.
:3

[MacThorstenson he/him]

You know, we need to figure out a way to either decrease the amount of backlog, or make the voting more efficient.

Any suggestions?

[MetaTerminal he/him]

3 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Dappers First law states that the plural should be Eggs, it says nothing about the singular case of Eggs.

(UNO! Rule 15! You lose 10 Eggs.) Wait, never mind. Storm you, Voidus.

I invoked the Literal Rule - the implication is that a singular ‘p word’ should also be referred to as an ‘Egg’ - however, this interpretation is not necessarily correct, and I will defer to others if more people disagree.

:3

EDIT: @MacThorstenson Either passing the Brevity Rule, or one of your ideas, or changing the Voting Clause to get a lower requirement for voting.

Edited April 2, 2019 by MetaTerminal

[Voidus]

Just now, MetaTerminal said:

I invoked the Literal Rule - the implication is that a singular ‘p word’ should also be referred to as an ‘Egg’ - however, this interpretation is not necessarily correct, and I will defer to others if more people disagree.

Then I invoke the literal rule to illustrate that in the same post I used the plural of Eggs as Eggs, showing a clear intent to comply with Dappers first Law regardless of what may be literally interpreted.:3
(This was my original problem with allowing the poster of something to be the one who determines the correct interpretation of it)

[MacThorstenson he/him]

Macthorsten's government increase of efficiency proposal: 

This vote only needs the support of one other person to be passed.

The first person to support this rule besides me gets the ability to cut any number of the rules on the waiting list in a one time purge.

EDIT: I should add for clarification that this rule supersedes the voting cause rule by virtue of saying so, and that the voting clase rule never specifies what authority is required for a rule to supersede it.

Edited April 2, 2019 by MacThorstenson

[Lunar Blessing she/her]

What is happening...

[MetaTerminal he/him]

5 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Then I invoke the literal rule to illustrate that in the same post I used the plural of Eggs as Eggs, showing a clear intent to comply with Dappers first Law regardless of what may be literally interpreted.:3

The problem here is that regardless of if you intended to comply with a rule, you can still violate it. If we decide that using the singular p-word is against the rules, then it is still against the rules, regardless if you attempted to comply or not.

3 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said:

This vote only needs the support of one other person to be passed.

This is only true if the rule is already passed - if it has attained 7 votes. One vote won’t do anything.

I support the rule, regardless.

I propose the law of eh: that saying eh in this thread is forbidden.

:3

EDIT: @Blessing of Potency I’m not sure what you’re requesting assistance on - do you misunderstand the concept of the game? Or the current game state?

Edited April 2, 2019 by MetaTerminal

[MacThorstenson he/him]

Just now, MetaTerminal said:

This is only true if the rule is already passed - if it has attained 7 votes. One vote won’t do anything.

 

See my edit:

3 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said:

EDIT: I should add for clarification that this rule supersedes the voting cause rule by virtue of saying so, and that the voting clase rule never specifies what authority is required for a rule to supersede it.

So you have indeed passed that rule into effect.

[Silverblade5 he/him]

I propose we remove voting and give all power to an undefined group of players.