Nathrangking he/him Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 @Calderis Khyrindor [PENDING REVIEW] So, I was hoping to get a confirmation on Mraize's age? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] I'd probably... Well, what did I say before? Khyrindor [PENDING REVIEW] Not sure, I was just asking the question. Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Okay good, I didn't think that I had confirmed this. I'm going to RAFO it. Khyrindor [PENDING REVIEW] Like, is he older than a normal person? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] I'd RAFO it, yeah. Let's say though, that, though he has been off-world, he himself is a Rosharan. Khyrindor [PENDING REVIEW] A Roshar native? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yeah. Skyward Seattle signing (Nov. 10, 2018) 3
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 @TheFoxQR @RShara How did he gain access to all of the Feruchemical powers?
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, RShara said: There's always another secret! I guess I grossly misunderstood the end of BoM. And how the Bands were made for that matter. I really don't like all of the alternative entry points to the metallic arts that are popping up, I liked that there was a cost to Hemalurgy.
Calderis he/him Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 @SwordNimiForPresident with medallions in existence, all Kel would need to make the bands is a spike for F-F-nicrosil. I think that's what the bands are anyone. A single power medallion for F-nicrosil with storages for everything else. 2
SamsonSeaBorn Posted March 26, 2019 Author Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: I guess I grossly misunderstood the end of BoM. And how the Bands were made for that matter. I really don't like all of the alternative entry points to the metallic arts that are popping up, I liked that there was a cost to Hemalurgy. There still would be a cost for hemalurgy I don’t think it’s be the same for kelsier since he did hold preservation. If you wanted to gain allomantic powers you’d still have to sacrifice someone’s spirit who had said power to someone who didn’t. What confuses me is the cross blending uses from the three strains (ferris,alloy, hemo) because that’s how you break the “ferochemists can only use their own metal minds” thing. So would you even really need all 16 spikes to fully nail a soul or just the proper metal spike.. Edited March 26, 2019 by SamsonSeaBorn
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Calderis said: @SwordNimiForPresident with medallions in existence, all Kel would need to make the bands is a spike for F-F-nicrosil. I think that's what the bands are anyone. A single power medallion for F-nicrosil with storages for everything else. Yea I always assumed it was just a F-Nicrosil with all 32 abilities in it. Did he just have Ferrings charge the other attributes then? In the past I had assumed he was Fullborn via Hemalurgy, but from what you guys are saying it seems like he might just be Mistborn with F-nicrosil (not that that isn't insanely OP anyway).
+TheFoxQR Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Calderis said: @SwordNimiForPresident with medallions in existence, all Kel would need to make the bands is a spike for F-F-nicrosil. I think that's what the bands are anyone. A single power medallion for F-nicrosil with storages for everything else. Ooooh. I like this. It would explain so much. The bands were basically Kelsier's version of a fixed deposit, to be opened on a rainy day.
Calderis he/him Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) @SwordNimiForPresident what I think he did, was take a medallion, store that power in Nicrosil... Compound and store. Repeat that process while using aluminum, and you can do it all. Worst case scenario would be switching out individual spikes for the powers if you can't store medallions. Guess we have to wait and see. Edited March 26, 2019 by Calderis
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Calderis said: @SwordNimiForPresident what I think he did, was take a medallion, store that power in Nicrosil... Compound and store. Repeat that process while using aluminum, and you can do it all. Worst case scenario would be switching out individual spikes for the powers if you can't store medallions. Guess we have to wait and see. Yeah, I think a lot hinges on how nicrosil compounding works. It will be really strong if it works the way I assume you mean. A small amount of nicrosil and a fairly large amount of preparation would make you effectively a Fullborn. Like you said I guess, RAFO.
old man moomba he/him Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SamsonSeaBorn said: There still would be a cost for hemalurgy I don’t think it’s be the same for kelsier since he did hold preservation. If you wanted to gain allomantic powers you’d still have to sacrifice someone’s spirit who had said power to someone who didn’t. What confuses me is the cross blending uses from the three strains (ferris,alloy, hemo) because that’s how you break the “ferochemists can only use their own metal minds” thing. So would you even really need all 16 spikes to fully nail a soul or just the proper metal spike.. What our resident Type IV Awakened object campain mananger meant was that you can now use 'unkeyed' metalminds to gain Feruchemic powers. Edited March 26, 2019 by Dr. Dapper 1
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: @TheFoxQR @RShara How did he gain access to all of the Feruchemical powers? The original Feruchemists came about through unknown means. My guess is that Kell found out how while holding Preservation, and replicated it. (Which might actually make him a more powerful Feruchemist than Mistborn...) 1
SamsonSeaBorn Posted March 26, 2019 Author Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, RShara said: Edited March 26, 2019 by SamsonSeaBorn
Wander89 he/him Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 I'll be glad to see more Kelsier, I feel he has a bigger part in the overall Cosmere, but i'd much rather he didn't try to "sneak" his self anywhere. I don't believe Kelsier would try and hide his identity. He wants people to know who he is, what he does and why he does it.
+Child of Hodor Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) On 3/25/2019 at 6:12 PM, Calderis said: @RShara I still disagree with Peter. Absolutely nothing about Mraize is "obviously Thaylen" except his title. Yeah, he isn't always clued in to all the secrets. Like he didn't think the Unmade were ever made to begin with before Oathbringer, but the Sja-Anat says they were Made and then Unmade. Reading back over his introduction I don't see any indication that he really looks Thaylen. Specifically, he is never said to have the goofy long eyebrows that can be combed back behind their ears. Dark hair, scarred mouth and fingers, violet eyes, that's about it. He uses a Thaylen term for master, but that's the only Thaylen connection. He would have a harder time pretending to be a Sadeas house guard in Oathbringer if he looked that Thaylen. We know very little about him. I had forgotten that Mraize isn't even his name it is a title. "I am called Mraize" the man said "You may use that title for me." - WoR Ch. 43 EDIT Mild WOT Spoiler: Spoiler Mraize reminds me of M'hael. Similar name, they look similar and both were not technically the top of their organization, but they totally act like they are the boss. Both are helping a hero for now, but they are clearly untrustworthy I think he's a dragon because his mouth and fingers are all messed up and dragons typically fight with their fangs and claws. The other weapon they use is their breath weapon and he was always playing with that blowgun. Like oral fixation, except breath weapon fixation. I thought the Hunter/Prey talk was from being a dragon, but it's probably from Iyatil being descended from Scadrial Hunters. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Iyatil Edited March 27, 2019 by Child of Hodor
RShara she/her Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Wander89 said: I'll be glad to see more Kelsier, I feel he has a bigger part in the overall Cosmere, but i'd much rather he didn't try to "sneak" his self anywhere. I don't believe Kelsier would try and hide his identity. He wants people to know who he is, what he does and why he does it. I agree with this. Actually I think Kelsier is incapable of hiding his identity for any length of time. 1
Wander89 he/him Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, RShara said: I agree with this. Actually I think Kelsier is incapable of hiding his identity for any length of time. Yeah it gets brought up in TFE a lot that Kelsier wants his ego to be known. He visits the skaa plantations and tenements to show he is the Survivor. He faces The Lord Ruler blatantly showing that he is the one he could not kill. I am hope. He wants to be known for the right reasons, although they can be executed wrongly. His whole crew is a master of deception, they work in the shadows but Kelsier goes out his way to show people he is The Lord of the Mists. I'll admit that it's a good theory but I don't think that this connection will come to light.
Weltall Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Child of Hodor said: I think he's a dragon because his mouth and fingers are all messed up and dragons typically fight with their fangs and claws. The other weapon they use is their breath weapon and he was always playing with that blowgun. Like oral fixation, except breath weapon fixation. 1) Assuming Cosmere dragons have weaponized breath. Brandon did not write that in Dragonsteel Prime and hasn't confirmed whether it will be the case in the published canon either. 2) Cosmere dragons can pass almost perfectly for humans, the only indication of any difference we've seen is a small detail you'd have to be looking very closely at their eyes to spot. We're not even certain that much is canon though. Brandon's said that if there were dragons onscreen in any of his published books, we wouldn't be able to spot them.
prayingforsuperpowers Posted April 12, 2019 Posted April 12, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 1:44 PM, Child of Hodor said: Yeah, he isn't always clued in to all the secrets. Like he didn't think the Unmade were ever made to begin with before Oathbringer, but the Sja-Anat says they were Made and then Unmade. Reading back over his introduction I don't see any indication that he really looks Thaylen. Specifically, he is never said to have the goofy long eyebrows that can be combed back behind their ears. Dark hair, scarred mouth and fingers, violet eyes, that's about it. He uses a Thaylen term for master, but that's the only Thaylen connection. He would have a harder time pretending to be a Sadeas house guard in Oathbringer if he looked that Thaylen. We know very little about him. I had forgotten that Mraize isn't even his name it is a title. "I am called Mraize" the man said "You may use that title for me." - WoR Ch. 43 EDIT Mild WOT Spoiler: Reveal hidden contents Mraize reminds me of M'hael. Similar name, they look similar and both were not technically the top of their organization, but they totally act like they are the boss. Both are helping a hero for now, but they are clearly untrustworthy I think he's a dragon because his mouth and fingers are all messed up and dragons typically fight with their fangs and claws. The other weapon they use is their breath weapon and he was always playing with that blowgun. Like oral fixation, except breath weapon fixation. I thought the Hunter/Prey talk was from being a dragon, but it's probably from Iyatil being descended from Scadrial Hunters. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Iyatil I was at a book signing in Denver, Co November 2018 and I got to ask Brandon about Dragons I don't have a perfect memory for my question, but I remember his response pretty well: Me: Given that we know dragons exist within the Cosmere, have we met any dragons yet? Have any of our main characters been around dragons? Brandon: Hmmm... I might RAFO that... (thinking pause) ...what I will say that there are some dragons who have been active throughout the Cosmere. Not a confirmation to your idea, but there you go.
Calderis he/him Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, prayingforsuperpowers said: I was at a book signing in Denver, Co November 2018 and I got to ask Brandon about Dragons I don't have a perfect memory for my question, but I remember his response pretty well: Me: Given that we know dragons exist within the Cosmere, have we met any dragons yet? Have any of our main characters been around dragons? Brandon: Hmmm... I might RAFO that... (thinking pause) ...what I will say that there are some dragons who have been active throughout the Cosmere. Not a confirmation to your idea, but there you go. So wait... Is this you? Quote Questioner [PENDING REVIEW] In the cosmere, other than Frost, have we been introduced to other dragons? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] There have been others around, but I don't know if.-- There have been others around. I'll just say that. Skyward Denver signing (Nov. 15, 2018) And if so, how would you like your name attributed? Edited April 13, 2019 by Calderis
prayingforsuperpowers Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Calderis said: So wait... Is this you? And if so, how would you like your name attributed? Woah, that is me. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’d like my name to say “Peter (PFSP)”. Please.
Calderis he/him Posted April 13, 2019 Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, prayingforsuperpowers said: Woah, that is me. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’d like my name to say “Peter (PFSP)”. Please. Done.
TheBeast22846 he/him Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I'd need some serious evidence, though I think that it would be really great if Mraize was Kelser
Scion of the Mists Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 9 hours ago, TheBeast22846 said: I'd need some serious evidence, though I think that it would be really great if Mraize was Kelser Check out the earlier posts in the thread. Mraize can't be Kelsier because Kelsier is stuck on Scadrial.
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