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  1. 1. Should a Head of Defense to manage the Precursors be elected?

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3 minutes ago, Darth Woodrack said:

"HERE IT IS! I COPIED IT FROM THE GOOGLE DOC!" Dusk said waiving a packet.

One of the mimes collapsed from exhaustion, muttering about finally quitting his Job and spending time with his kids. Another helped him up and took him home while the rest worked even harder, more cracks were appearing, they were tempted to form a dimensional gag, but it apparently 'wasn't acceptable' and a 'gross violations of rights of speech'

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A mime paused. Getting the attention of his other mimes. The hurriedly stopped, realising that there wasn't any wall break.

They froze again. Had they been addressed? Oh no.

The forth wall began to shatter and they sprung back into action, universal bandaids fixing the tear.

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Seb pressed two fingers to the bridge of his nose in annoyance. "I don't like the idea of one member of this council being in control of a single entity as such being a policing force. I will consent if you allow other members from different guilds to over see this. Otherwise you do not get my vote." 

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"Actually, I am not a member of thi council. Also, I am not a Precursor leader. I just run a city, and that city has a code of laws. You want the Precursor run down call up Thel," Dusk said.

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Vesuvius groaned. Why they thought it was a good idea to send him, he'll never know.

He perked up at the mention of Alcatraz, however. Did these people know him?

Sigh. Things were so much easier when the people had the power.

Meaning, mob rule. When a group of people could gather, in passion...

That was true government right there.

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Well, actually mob rule is by definition not a government, but that doesn't matter. Everyone got their say. I mean, it took years to decide anything as somebody had to go around to everyone, and there were no laws becuase that would be a governing body, but everyone got equal say. Unless they were too powerful, and then every overthrew them becuase they thought they were tyrants. And no mob rule government ever lasted longer than two years, but it was a genius system. No rebellions. Except their were. A lot. They just weren't stopped and hundreds more people died. But everyone got equal say. Unless they were slaves, or dead.

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The elderly woman wooped loudly. "YES, HAVE THE CANTON DO IT!" Her voice came down, a mutter, but still loud enough to hear. "We need real police, not these sprouts with no use."

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“Let me clarify” Astiel told everyone

“The precoursors can still be the regular police force, but we have a more specialised division to take down high-level threats”

 

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The woman shook her head, then tapped strength, standing. She waved her hands, throwing the cane to the seat. "Have you SEEN the state of this place? All we have is high-level threats. We don't need the small fry police, we need the powerful police."

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This doesn't match my opinions, though I do want a different police force, she's kinda the crazy old lady who has strong political opinions.

 

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Ark, unless you have a reason why the Precursors shouldn't be the police force other than that the government should make their own, I don't see your argument. Well, actually, unless you have another reason, you don't have an argument.

"Crazy old woman," Dusk said, "There is absolutely no reason why the Precursors should not be the main police force. Also, I would agree with what Astiel said. Why am I talking you ask? Well, me being here is not a high level threat, and you don't have a police force to stop me from being here."

"Astiel, I would be happy to work with you. We do have some capability to deal with high level threats, but it is good to have an independent group to do so," Thel said, "Separate agencies, same side. Side thing; If you try to take the hunt for the Jackal from us, it will not work. He falls under our jurisdiction. He is a criminal mastermind, not a terrorist. Also, Walker works with both f us, so he will keep hunting him even if you try,"

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If the Precursors are the police force, they are hunting him. That is just a thing I need for his plot.

@Nohadon @Ark1002

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Ciera grumbled "If the Senate would table matters of city defence until a later date. I believe we have more important matters to discuss, such as taxation. We can't have a bloody police department without money to pay for it!"

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Actually, I do have an argument. The Precursors have leaders besides the government not appointed by the government. The police force should be 100% government run, not with a triarchy controlling it.

The woman slowly sat down, lowering herself carefully into her chair. "Yes, lets. We don't need to worry about police right now."

Posted
13 hours ago, Dr. Dapper said:

Ciera grumbled "If the Senate would table matters of city defence until a later date. I believe we have more important matters to discuss, such as taxation. We can't have a bloody police department without money to pay for it!"

"Dusk has been supporting us, so if you authorize us, we will continue doing what we have been doing for the past year. Hunting down criminals," Thel said, "Give us tax oney later, but authorize us now."

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Can we resolve this now? It is really the only thing that affects me, and I would like to have Thel  be able to leave.

2 hours ago, Ark1002 said:

Actually, I do have an argument. The Precursors have leaders besides the government not appointed by the government. The police force should be 100% government run, not with a triarchy controlling it.

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Why? I see no reason why the three leaders who currently control it could not continue their job. It is not like we are stopping actual uncontrollable element. And also, I would think that the three people who ran a police force, before there was a government would be the leaders of any new police force afterwards. Except for maybe Clyde, but he only got power because Ink couldn't take it, and you left office.

 

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I'd say that as a new government you kind of want to be assured of the loyalties of your main armed police forces. They could continue doing their jobs, but only after being actually talked to by the government, to make sure you don't have bad types slipping through. Not saying the Precursors have these types, but you at least want to be assured of that as a government IC. It's one of the main reasons real governments tend to run background checks on higher ranked employees, and have things like confirmation hearings.

 

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Why do you think that Thel showed up? He is here to talk to them for the Precursors.

"You would have complete oversight, and we would work for you. If you have any questions for us, tell me them now, because I need to get going soon," Thel said, taking Dusk's podium.

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Using mercenaries as police is not something many governments would consider to be a good idea.

 

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Any mercenaries can have a code, the point is they're a privately owned and operated military force. Nothing stopping them from breaking that code at any point, and even if they don't their motivations are skewed. Private organisations work to make profit, that's not the kind of decision making you want in a peace keeping force. There's a reason that police forces aren't privatised.

 

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They aren't mercenaries. They were founded as a police force, and they were policing the Citadel for more than a year. They aren't privately owned and operated, and since we aren't official yet, if Ark comes back, he'd be a leader again. That has me, a TUBA member, Ax, TUBA GB member, and Ark, GB DA Keeper member. That good for you?

 

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