TousenShadowForged he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 read warbreaker and elantris and am I right assuming there is no Shards there like in mistborn and stormlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Zelly Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) There are definitely Shards on both worlds, but they are simply less directly involved in the story. If you've read Stormlight you're familiar with the Letter which makes up the epigraphs in The Way of Kings, part of which reads Quote Because I assure you, Rayse will not be similarly inhibited. One need only look at the aftermath of his brief visit to Sel to see proof of what I say. In case you have turned a blind eye to that disaster, know that Aona and Skai are both dead, and that which they held has been Splintered. Presumably to prevent anyone from rising up to challenge Rayse. Aons Seons, similar to spren on Roshar, are remnants of Aona. As for Warbreaker, I think most of what we know comes from WoB and not so much from in-cosmere discussions. However, during the process of dying and becoming a Returned, there is a voice that speaks to the person that is likely the Shard. Edited December 16, 2018 by Zelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dunkum he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 for a bit more information: the shards on Sel (Elantris) are Devotion and Dominion, and they are both dead well prior to the beginning of the book, much like what happened to Honor. The shard on Nalthis (Warbreaker) is Endowment, who is still around, but doesn't play as direct a role in the book as the shards in Stormlight and Mistborn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BooksBeforeDeath Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 I believe one of the letters directed to Hoid in WoK was from Endowment. I might be wrong about who, but it was definentyl a Shard who said that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Calderis he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 49 minutes ago, Dunkum said: the shards on Sel (Elantris) are Devotion and Dominion, and they are both dead well prior to the beginning of the book, much like what happened to Honor. Not only are the shard splintered, but they are heavily involved in the story of Elantris as their "bodies," their power, is the Dor. 56 minutes ago, Zelly said: Aons, similar to spren on Roshar, are remenants of Aona Seons. Seons are splinters (or technically contain splinters) of Devotion, and the Skaze, who we only see in the extra scene in the 10th anniversary edition, are splinters of Dominion. 33 minutes ago, BooksBeforeDeath said: I believe one of the letters directed to Hoid in WoK was from Endowment. I might be wrong about who, but it was definentyl a Shard who said that. Not in twok. It's was OB. There are three letters in that book, all from. Shards. Endowment, Autonomy, and Harmony. In that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 goody153 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Warbreaker has a shard. Elantris used to have shards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dunkum he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Calderis said: Not only are the shard splintered, but they are heavily involved in the story of Elantris as their "bodies," their power, is the Dor. A technicality. and they certainly aren't involved in the same way that Odium or Ruin or the others are. This is much more Passive. Even Honor has an active role in the form of Dalinar's visions, which is far more than we see on Sel. you could argue Endowment is more involved on Nalthis, but we still don't see much of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TousenShadowForged he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 ah ok thank you all I was pondering on this a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Quantus he/him Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Dunkum said: A technicality. and they certainly aren't involved in the same way that Odium or Ruin or the others are. This is much more Passive. Even Honor has an active role in the form of Dalinar's visions, which is far more than we see on Sel. you could argue Endowment is more involved on Nalthis, but we still don't see much of her. That's the difference between a shard with a vessel (or in the case of Honor a Cognitive Shadow of the Vessel that was sort of Prepared for the Vessel's Death) and simply a giant ball of Power with no guiding influence and/or intellect. But just about everything on Elantris is part of the fallout of those two's deaths and the unusual dispensation of their Investiture corpses. It actually makes the Dor a unique thing in the Cosmere (as far as we know) as the Dor is the only place where the entirety of a shard (a pair in fact) resides in the Cognitive Realm rather than the Spiritual, fundamentally changing how that magic can work. The Dor magics are the more versatile than any other (described as programming languages for reality), but are the only ones that are fundamentally location locked, the simply do no work off-world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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read warbreaker and elantris and am I right assuming there is no Shards there like in mistborn and stormlight?
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