Ripheus23 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 If different worlds developed Shardblade equivalents (Awakened swords on Nalthis, Seon/Skaze analogs on Sel, etc.), do you predict that one day, in the Great Crossover, there will be a major war going on somewhere, involving many/most/all the different Shardblade-like arsenals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Personally no. At least not as primary weapons. Just like in real life, quick and readily available lethal ranged weapons are going to end up taking precedence. Just look at Scadrial. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Calderis said: Personally no. At least not as primary weapons. Just like in real life, quick and readily available lethal ranged weapons are going to end up taking precedence. Just look at Scadrial. Imagine a Taldain/Scadrial alliance. Two of the most advanced planets we know of, either of which could probably steamroll most of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Long range weapons are always going to dominate. Coinshots in a modern city could probably easily beat a shardbearer since they could remain out of reach and shoot coins which could probably slowly damage the shardplate until it locks up. Guns would probably have a similar effectiveness against shardplate. A shardblade sword is fairly useless until you're in melee range and provide hardly any defense against bullets until then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i’m in the details he/him Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yeah due to Sanderson making each planet, realistically I might add, at separate stages of development; I find the chances that a bladewar happens unlikely. That said these Shardbearers from other planets might act like Jedi of the space era, using old weapons with such proficiency they can fight those with better tech. Cosmere Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas he/him Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said: Long range weapons are always going to dominate. Coinshots in a modern city could probably easily beat a shardbearer since they could remain out of reach and shoot coins which could probably slowly damage the shardplate until it locks up. Guns would probably have a similar effectiveness against shardplate. A shardblade sword is fairly useless until you're in melee range and provide hardly any defense against bullets until then. We haven't seen much of real Knights Radiant armor, only left-overs. Even if an active Knights armor has similar limits, I bet Kaladin could make a Syl-shield that would take plenty of coins or bullets. And isn't there some WoB about using spren as long-distance weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Lidolas said: We haven't seen much of real Knights Radiant armor, only left-overs. Even if an active Knights armor has similar limits, I bet Kaladin could make a Syl-shield that would take plenty of coins or bullets. And isn't there some WoB about using spren as long-distance weapons? Yeah, the shardplate of Radiants probably can repair itself much more quickly than the shardplate that much. Still, developing technologies would still neutralize any advantages that shardplate and shardblades have before too long. With regards to long-distance spren weapons, that's probably possible to a degree, but guns would still out-range them in most causes probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathrangking he/him Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Questioner On the nature of shardblades, to an extent, can a live blade be split without harming it's source, so to speak? Brandon Sanderson Can a live blade split? What do you mean, split? Questioner Make itself into two weapons. Brandon Sanderson Oh, can a blade be forged into two weapons. A shardblade. Questioner Does it absolutely need a connection, or can it become two? Brandon Sanderson So, shardblades becoming two shardblades would require slicing in half a soul, which would not be very fun for the spren. Okay? Questioner So it's possible. *laughter* Brandon Sanderson So it's technically possible to take hydrogen and to turn it into plutonium with our current technology. It would cost more money than, like, the budget of NASA to do it for, y'know, one atom. So there are things that are possible, but-- Yes it is possible. This is not something that would be easy or very useful to do. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Well, if there is never a situation that is "Bladewar"-like, then does it follow that it is unlikely that Nightblood will have a prominent role in the future of the Cosmere, or will his purpose turn out to be entirely served by the end of the SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossamund Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 If Nightblood is still around it will be relevant. Bullets are useful but obliterating walls, having mind control powers (if the victims evil) etc. are useful. Especially since Nightblood is getting more invested over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 So Radiant Shardplate I think could reform without stormlight. I feel like they could just dismiss part of the armor and call new spren to reform it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, MountainKing said: So Radiant Shardplate I think could reform without stormlight. I feel like they could just dismiss part of the armor and call new spren to reform it. Even if Shardplate is made of spren, that's a big assumption. I highly doubt that they have armor that can just be dismissed when broken and resummomed instantly whole. Brandon is far to fond of limitations (rightfully, as the alternative is boring) for that to be true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidolas he/him Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Could two (or more) Radiants work together to create long-distance weapons? For example, Kaladin has Syl turn into a Shardbow and Shallan has Pattern turn into an Shardarrow? Edited November 7, 2018 by Lidolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossamund Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 I don't think radiants can make flexible weapons. What's more turning a spren into a single arrow seems like it would generally be a waste of potential. It'd make more sense to me to make shardspears or javelins, which are thrown or lashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rossamund Rhapadocera said: I don't think radiants can make flexible weapons. What's more turning a spren into a single arrow seems like it would generally be a waste of potential. It'd make more sense to me to make shardspears or javelins, which are thrown or lashed. You're absolutely right. It's also a huge waste because it relies on width of the cutting edge to sever limbs. Honorblades are incapable of healing Shardblade wounds, and yet when Szeth is stabbed by Kaladin with Syl as a knife it does so little that Kaladin thinks he heals. A simple puncture that doesn't hit a limb core doesn't seem to accomplish anything. All of which is why every time this topic comes up I bring up an oversize chakram. Because if a radiant in plate throws this thing, it's going to do some storming damage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 he/him Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 12 hours ago, Lidolas said: Could two (or more) Radiants work together to create long-distance weapons? For example, Kaladin has Syl turn into a Shardbow and Shallan has Pattern turn into an Shardarrow? Where would the benefit be? A shard is not better at making a bow than an ordinary bow. In fact, it would suck. A bow has to bend. It seems to me that if you wanted a ranged shard weapon, you'd need to go for a larger weapon to get a decent mass. So a shard javelin powered by an atlatl. It would solve the classical issue of all distance weapons. You could not run out of ammo, as the projectile can dematerialise and return to the wielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripheus23 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 17 hours ago, Calderis said: Thus Calderis wins the Internet for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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