If you drank out of Ruin's shardpool, would that be like eating atium?

[tmnsquirtle]

Sorry if the tags are weird - first time posting!

[Calderis]

Well, look at the Well. 

Liquid investiture, according to Brandon, is the most potent of the three physical forms. The well would basically be condensed and concentrated Mist.

Considering what the Mists do to a person's body when used, I have trouble seeing a person surviving that in most instances unless they're using it in a way that it's built for, like the Well. 

So I think drinking from a shardpool would likely kill you. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by Calderis

[Wandering Investor]

This... is an excellent question, I'm really curious about it. I think the liquid physical aspects of the shards are more concentrated than the physical. So I would guess atium but a lot stronger. That's assuming it didn't kill or vaporize you, or just do nothing. But I'm really not sure. 

[King Cole]

I think that would just be overall bad

[Quantus]

Hard to say, but as boring as this possibility is, it might not actually do anything.  The pools, the mists, and the godmetals are all just physically condensed Investiture.  But at least on Scadrial, the metals are the ones that cause significant changes to the Spiritweb, the others dont appear to actually do much without direct action by the hexadiety (like using the Mists for direct fuel or Snapping folks). And in the case of the pools, we have several other similar pools on other shardworlds and while they all seem to have some effect on the local life-forms those effects are generational stuff more than single-event changes.  And most if not all of them have been traversed by worldhoppers without major modifications, so they cant be so volatile as to cause major changes from basic exposure.   

[Unlicensed Hemalurgist]

This question reminds me a lot of this, in both substance and spirit:

 

[tmnsquirtle]

20 hours ago, Quantus said:

Hard to say, but as boring as this possibility is, it might not actually do anything.  The pools, the mists, and the godmetals are all just physically condensed Investiture.  But at least on Scadrial, the metals are the ones that cause significant changes to the Spiritweb, the others dont appear to actually do much without direct action by the hexadiety (like using the Mists for direct fuel or Snapping folks). And in the case of the pools, we have several other similar pools on other shardworlds and while they all seem to have some effect on the local life-forms those effects are generational stuff more than single-event changes.  And most if not all of them have been traversed by worldhoppers without major modifications, so they cant be so volatile as to cause major changes from basic exposure.   

I have a hard time believing it would do nothing. Ingesting metal on Scadrial is important, and shardpool liquid is basically the same substance as metal atium. 

I guess it's possible that atium, and other godmetals, are injected into the world in a fundamentally different way than shardpools, which could change their effects... But still. Have to wonder.

[Quantus]

1 hour ago, Calderis said:

Well, look at the Well. 

Liquid investiture, according to Brandon, is the most potent of the three physical forms. The well would basically be condensed and concentrated Mist.

Considering what the Mists do to a person's body when used, I have trouble seeing a person surviving that in most instances unless they're using it in a way that it's built for, like the Well. 

So I think drinking from a shardpool would likely kill you. 

Any shardpool or Ruin's specifically? 

I think a lot of the reason I lean toward it doing relatively little is that presumably it can be used for perpendicularity travel, and even though I understand the Intents would be wildly different I still find it hard to hink that you could essentially bath in them without getting even a little of the liquid in your mouth.  Maybe if we concede that trace amounts wouldnt do much, you'd need a sizable volume/percentage?

[Calderis]

Intent is everything here. In transition, your not taking that into yourself, you just using it as a gateway. 

If you drink it, that's a very different thing. 

I really doubt that you come out the other side dripping wet. 

[Voidus]

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Condensed 'essence' of these godly powers can act as super-fuel for Allomancy, Feruchemy, or really any of the powers. The form of that super fuel is important. In liquid form it's most potent, in gas form it's able to fuel Allomancy as if working as a metal. In physical form it is rigid and does one specific thing. In the case of atium, it allows sight into the future. In the case of concentrated Preservation, it gives one a permanent connection to the mists and the powers of creation. (I.e., it makes them an Allomancer.)
-Brandon

Just including the WoB here for any who haven't already seen this one.

[tmnsquirtle]

So, I've been reading Aether of Night and the book might shed some light on this question. Sorry for the necro, but I really wanted to add this.

Aether spoilers, btw, since I'm not sure of spoiler policy on this board:

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Edited August 22, 2018 by Argent
Removed Aether of Night content.

[Scion of the Mists]

18 hours ago, tmnsquirtle said:

So, I've been reading Aether of Night and the book might shed some light on this question. Sorry for the necro, but I really wanted to add this.

Aether spoilers, btw, since I'm not sure of spoiler policy on this board:

Welcome to the Shard!

Aether of Night is an unpublished book, and therefore can only be discussed in the Aether of Night subforum.  

I would also recommending reading this welcome thread, which talks about a number of useful things, including the spoiler policy.  

 

[Argent]

I've gone ahead and removed the Aether spoilers. @Scion of the Mists is correct in saying that Aether discussion is only allowed in its dedicated subforum.

[Yata]

I think that at best drinking from a shard pool could result in an amount of kinetic investiture avaliable....if you are able to use it for something it's another matter.

But mainly I disagree in the "drinking from Ruin's perpendicularity as the same Atium effect" and by the way...witch of the tree? Because fall death on the spot is actually the same effect you gain from storing too much youth XD