[Theory] Worldhopping, how it's done.

[AerionBFII he/him]

That just predisposes me even MORE towards the shardpools. The weird thing is that Hoid on Scadrial seems to be able to World Hop without any shardpools being accessible. 

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I thought this as well! Hoid is the most powerful in the Cosmere (excluding Shards) might just be him able to Worldhop internally.

[hoser he/him]

My thought is that the shardpools are connected through the Cognitive Realm, and that the reason Sel is hard to access through the Cognitive Realm is because Devotion splintering did something funky to the pool.

 

Of course, that's assuming it IS a shardpool, since of WoB is the pool isn't necessarily what we think it is. 

I can't find it, but I believe that there is a quote to the effect that splintered investiture develops in ways that can be dangerous.  With the splintered investiture of both Dominion and Devotion, the cognitive realm has near Sel lots of investiture that has been developing on it's own for a long time and has become dangerous.  I think this is at least part of why traveling to or from Sel via the cognitive realm is dangerous. 

The best example of this I can think of is the Stormfather, who forbids Syl to come to the physical realm, generates a storm to wipe out Dalinar's army and forbids Syl to rejoin Kaladin even though these things are all apparently needed for the resistance to Odium.  He is a splinter of Honor, but he seems insane and works against what Honor seems to have been intending in his visions to Dalinar. 

[duladen he/him]

This indicates that Shardpools are used to worldhop, although it does not say that they are the only method of doing so.

http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1091#2

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

I think there are few ways it is possible (this could be more apt in Cosmere theories given the interconnected nature?)

 

Shardpools are one

SA spoilers

Transportation surge is another

Hoid possibly knows other ways

[The Honor Spren she/her]

The WoR hint? Here it is. Not gonna bother with spoiler tags, since this thread is so spoilery anyway.

(Rock talking about the lakes on the Horneater peaks)

"Is not just water," Rock said, "Is water if life. It is connection to gods. If Unkalaki swim in it, sometimes they see place of gods."

Kaladin leaned forward at that. His mind had been drifting toward how to help Bridge Eighteen with their discipline problems. This struck him. "Place of gods?"

"Yes," Rock said, "Is where they live. The waters of life. They let you see place. In it, you commune with gods, if you are lucky."

. . .

"I saw Lunu'anaki."

"Uh, great." Moash said. "Wonderful."

"Lunu'anaki," Rock said, "is god of travel and mischief. Very powerful god. He came from depths of peak ocean, from realm of gods."

"What did he look like?" Lopen asked, eyes wide.

"Like person." Rock said. "Maybe Alethi, though skin was lighter. Very angular face. Handsome, perhaps. With white hair."

Sigzil looked up sharply. "White hair?"

"Yes," Rock said. "Not grey, like old man, but white--yet he is young man. He spoke to me on shore. Ha! Made mockery of my beard. Asked me what year it was, by Horneater calendar. Thought my name was funny. Very powerful god."

"Were you scared?" Lopen asked.

"No, of course not. Lunu'anaki cannot hurt man. Is forbidden by other gods. Every body knows this."

So it's obviously a shard pool and obviously Hoid.

Also, shouldn't this be in Cosmere theories? Could we get a mod to move it?

[Bort he/him]

That just predisposes me even MORE towards the shardpools. The weird thing is that Hoid on Scadrial seems to be able to World Hop without any shardpools being accessible. 

 

How do you figure this?

 

Scadrial has two shardpools, one for Ruin, and one for Preservation. If Hoid is using the pools to travel, why not simply use one to hop to the other?

[natc]

Well, when you think about it

Mistborn spoilers

he was with the Terris during WoA, and I think that group ended up settling near the pits? He then picks up a lerasium bead by hopping straight to the well. . .

Well, if the black lake is indeed underneath the pits, he actually has been to both shardpools in just that timeframe alone. Huh.

Edited July 22, 2015 by natc

[Hoided]

Guy, this is my first post, and I had reading everything anon, but this a huge breakthrough I think you guys actually figured it out, and it all fits. I think this is what Brandon Sanderson has been so surprised we hadn't figured out. Wow. Everything checks out.

[The Honor Spren she/her]

The WoR hint? Here it is. Not gonna bother with spoiler tags, since this thread is so spoilery anyway.

(Rock talking about the lakes on the Horneater peaks)

So it's obviously a shard pool and obviously Hoid.

Also, shouldn't this be in Cosmere theories? Could we get a mod to move it?

Oh, and do you know what that quote also pretty much tells us? Sigzil knows what Hoid is.

[DreamEternal]

Oh, and do you know what that quote also pretty much tells us? Sigzil knows what Hoid is.

He was his apprentice, and Hoid can't really "go normal" for too long. He is almost as attention hungry as Kelsier. It does not surprise me that Sigzil knows he isn't a mere mortal. Who knows, maybe he even learned some tricks or secrets from him.

Edited August 31, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern

[Alfa he/him]

I think that Hoid is not explicitly attention hungry. He is just old, wise and powerfull enough to behave himself as he pleases; and that usually draws attention.

[DreamEternal]

I think that Hoid is not explicitly attention hungry. He is just old, wise and powerfull enough to behave himself as he pleases; and that usually draws attention.

Is that so? Then why is he obviusly cryptic and mysterious instead of staying out of view and acting normaly? And why does he always chooses disguises that force him to interact directly with many people and show them his intellect, wisdow and wit? And reversing your question, why does it pleases him so much to behave in ways that draw attention to himself?

Edited August 31, 2015 by CognitivePulsePattern

[Michael Portz he/him]

It's interesting to compare Vasher to Hoid in that respect; both seem to be on Roshar waiting for certain events to happen or for persons to appear or things to be found. Vasher has taken the what Alfa calls "wise" stance in staying in the background, Hoid is drawing attention like a lunatic.

 

Isn't there a similarity between Hoid and your run-of-the-mill illusionist or magician, who draws the attention of an audience which is completely aware that it is about to be tricked to a point which is just oh-so-slighty BESIDE what should be concealed?

 

Just thinking and rambling...ignore me :-)

 

 

Is that so? Then why is he obviusly cryptic and mysterious instead of staying out of view and acting normaly? And why does he always chooses disguises that force him to interact directly eith many people and show them his intellect, wisdow and wit? And reversing your question, why does it pleases him so much to behave in ways that draw attention to himself?

 

EDIT: Typo

Edited August 31, 2015 by Atastor