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17 hours ago, NameIess said:

Father John shuddered in horror at the sight of the death ahead of him. Then, convulsively, he shook his head.

"It is not mine to choose the time of my death." He said quietly, but firmly. "Taking my life is wrong, no matter if it is done to prevent my suffering. I-"

Father John's voice was cut off suddenly as the darkness that had been slowly encasing him abruptly consumed him, slaying him in an instant.

"Take care." The Witherlord had a distant expression as he admonished the sphere. "I gave you leave to follow me, not to interfere with my plans."

The distant expression ended as the Witherlord cut a rift in reality, stepping back into the Void. "This information seeking has become irrelevant. My spies have finally reported back."

'Ordered Light' is not a character alignment. pointed out a voice in 9/10's head. Although those aligned with it are generally fans of reality existing, they are not necessarily good, altruistic, or analytical.

Are these rifts supposed to compare to Flaw Rifts? Because they do very similar things, although Flaws aren’t technically categorized as a neutral character OR a withergeist/narrator/enuller/luxsprite. Just curious if you have something planned

1 minute ago, NameIess said:

I’m a baptist as well, although Priest John was intended to be Catholic. Sadly i dont get to have the Witherlrod run through all the denominations searching for one that knows how to locate Heaven (the place) within the thread.

lol, cool. Would be controversial and the catholic church kind of has a vibe that’s cool for this anyway. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Are these rifts supposed to compare to Flaw Rifts? Because they do very similar things, although Flaws aren’t technically categorized as a neutral character OR a withergeist/narrator/enuller/luxsprite. Just curious if you have something planned

lol, cool. Would be controversial and the catholic church kind of has a vibe that’s cool for this anyway. 

The rifts are the Witherlord destroying the (chaotic light and/or ordered light) fabric of reality, allowing him to enter the Void and travel easily between worlds. Wouldn't recommend that for any Light-aligned characters unless they like getting eaten by withergeists.

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Just now, NameIess said:

The rifts are the Witherlord destroying the (chaotic light and/or ordered light) fabric of reality, allowing him to enter the Void and travel easily between worlds. Wouldn't recommend that for any Light-aligned characters unless they like getting eaten by withergeists.

Hm, yes, okay. So very very similar, except Flaw Rifts less destroy and more cut open, and those affect all layers of reality (i mean i guess with skill they could pick which parts which would have interesting applications), as well as passing through the space outside of the longest thread to do so, which effectively borders the void.

coolio, i basically invented that up all on the spot so thank you very much for worldbuilding help

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6 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Hm, yes, okay. So very very similar, except Flaw Rifts less destroy and more cut open, and those affect all layers of reality (i mean i guess with skill they could pick which parts which would have interesting applications), as well as passing through the space outside of the longest thread to do so, which effectively borders the void.

coolio, i basically invented that up all on the spot so thank you very much for worldbuilding help

I hope to learn about Flaws, as I'm planning to include them in my character's plot. If that's ok.

 

1 hour ago, NameIess said:

That’s interesting to think about, actually. The voice mused. Why is it that withergeists are the only paradigm with baked-in morality? I suppose their motives could be pure, but their actions are always forced towards the evil and corruptive. Narrators are allowed to be good or evil, as are Ennullers. From what fragments we have, it seems likely that Luxsprites also were allowed to hold different moralities. But withergeists cannot. It makes one think, does it not? Perhaps in an unreality formed by Ennullers, Narrators would be the evil ones. A Doylist explanation would be that someone needs to be villainous, and dark forces of evil fill that role. But the Watsonian explanation is an intriguing conundrum.

A neon sign buzzed nearby as it flickered, proudly proclaiming the name of a convenient nearby cafe: A Latte coffee.

There didn’t seem to be many people inside, but an ‘oen’ sign (the p had gone out long ago) was set beside the glass door.

After grabbing a bagel, Vlanis walked back onto the street. "Now... "
He looked around. "Where can I go to learn how to kill a god?"

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18 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Hm, yes, okay. So very very similar, except Flaw Rifts less destroy and more cut open, and those affect all layers of reality (i mean i guess with skill they could pick which parts which would have interesting applications), as well as passing through the space outside of the longest thread to do so, which effectively borders the void.

coolio, i basically invented that up all on the spot so thank you very much for worldbuilding help

The Witherlord may decide to interact with one of the greater flaws at some point. To see if it is a greater evil than he.

9 minutes ago, ThatOneGuyOverThere said:

I hope to learn about Flaws, as I'm planning to include them in my character's plot. If that's ok.

 

After grabbing a bagel, Vlanis walked back onto the street. "Now... "
He looked around. "Where can I go to learn how to kill a god?"

A flyer fluttered down in front of him.

God Killing 101: a seminar by Nin the Ninja’s supreme* apprentice: B. I. Glyer.

(Graduates of this seminar will be given a 100% free, 100% authentic Murderite sword, guaranteed** to be up to the job of killing any god.

the bottom of the flyer, which presumably would have contained the diclaimers, was unfortunately missing.

Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, ThatOneGuyOverThere said:

I hope to learn about Flaws, as I'm planning to include them in my character's plot. If that's ok.

 

After grabbing a bagel, Vlanis walked back onto the street. "Now... "
He looked around. "Where can I go to learn how to kill a god?"

Here you are: 

its a very new thing not like core lore

so im flattered you are asking for it 

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The Witherlord may decide to interact with one of the greater flaws at some point. To see if it is a greater evil than he.

almost certainly the Witherlord, as he is much more actively malevolent and calculating than than what amounts to a mindless primal force of endings and death. In addition, if the Witherlord pursues one of these Tyrant Flaws, he would be expanding TLT’s borders to bring the Flaw inside, and that would heavily weaken it. Flaws work better when not confined by the system, which is why Sanguine and 9/10 are so weak even though they have both destroyed countless worlds- they are trying to do so as a character, and are weakened.

canonically, there are Flaws inhabiting all if my characters, but they aren’t revealed because that would weaken them, and me being active on the Thread and interacting with other authors actually fights them, though you could say they have killed some of the characters that I haven’t interacted with in a while. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, NameIess said:

The Witherlord may decide to interact with one of the greater flaws at some point. To see if it is a greater evil than he.

A flyer fluttered down in front of him.

God Killing 101: a seminar by Nin the Ninja’s supreme* apprentice: B. I. Glyer.

(Graduates of this seminar will be given a 100% free, 100% authentic Murderite sword, guaranteed** to be up to the job of killing any god.

the bottom of the flyer, which presumably would have contained the diclaimers, was unfortunately missing.

Vlanis considers the flyer. "Well, certainly worth looking into."

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16 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Here you are: 

its a very new thing not like core lore

so im flattered you are asking for it 

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almost certainly the Witherlord, as he is much more actively malevolent and calculating than than what amounts to a mindless primal force of endings and death. In addition, if the Witherlord pursues one of these Tyrant Flaws, he would be expanding TLT’s borders to bring the Flaw inside, and that would heavily weaken it. Flaws work better when not confined by the system, which is why Sanguine and 9/10 are so weak even though they have both destroyed countless worlds- they are trying to do so as a character, and are weakened.

canonically, there are Flaws inhabiting all if my characters, but they aren’t revealed because that would weaken them, and me being active on the Thread and interacting with other authors actually fights them, though you could say they have killed some of the characters that I haven’t interacted with in a while. 

That is likely the conclusion he would come to as well, although I would ask how flaws are supposed to destroy stories without entering them.

1 minute ago, ThatOneGuyOverThere said:

Vlanis considers the flyer. "Well, certainly worth looking into."

The flyer contained an address, as well as a time and date. The first class started in about half an hour.

Posted
11 minutes ago, NameIess said:

That is likely the conclusion he would come to as well, although I would ask how flaws are supposed to destroy stories without entering them.

The flyer contained an address, as well as a time and date. The first class started in about half an hour.

Subversion flaws are more like invisible parasites that magnify… flaws, in a story or particularly a character. The difference is that 9/10 and Sanguine have entered as characters, putting themselves partially into the power of Authors, which is what weakens them, and they have done this because TLT has multiple authors and is  eternally a work in progress, making it difficult to just cause one author to get fed up with a bad character and quit. 

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Hmmm making stuff up as I go sounds good enough to me. Hope this is okay with you, @ThatOneGuyOverThere. If not I can change it lol. 

Ennalee  wasn't quite sure where she was. She had been wandering around for what felt like forever, though in reality it had only been a day, if even that. 

Picking a random direction, she had set out after her meeting with 9/10, hoping that she would stumble upon a city. She had, though she wasn't quite sure what to do. 
After purchasing an apple, she wandered around the streets blindly.

"Attention!" someone called, catching her attention. "In just a little bit we begin our seminar! Please, come, grab a flyer and join us!"

Grabbing the flyer, Ennalee examined it. 

 

God Killing 101: a seminar by Nin the Ninja’s supreme* apprentice: B. I. Glyer.

This could be useful... She thought, deciding to see what it was about. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Subversion flaws are more like invisible parasites that magnify… flaws, in a story or particularly a character. The difference is that 9/10 and Sanguine have entered as characters, putting themselves partially into the power of Authors, which is what weakens them, and they have done this because TLT has multiple authors and is  eternally a work in progress, making it difficult to just cause one author to get fed up with a bad character and quit. 

So they’d normally work by exerting outside influence on the story, pushing characters to make decisions that worsen the story, then after the Author gives up, the Tyrant flaw would consume the dead story left behind?

6 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said:

Hmmm making stuff up as I go sounds good enough to me. Hope this is okay with you, @ThatOneGuyOverThere. If not I can change it lol. 

Ennalee  wasn't quite sure where she was. She had been wandering around for what felt like forever, though in reality it had only been a day, if even that. 

Picking a random direction, she had set out after her meeting with 9/10, hoping that she would stumble upon a city. She had, though she wasn't quite sure what to do. 
After purchasing an apple, she wandered around the streets blindly.

"Attention!" someone called, catching her attention. "In just a little bit we begin our seminar! Please, come, grab a flyer and join us!"

Grabbing the flyer, Ennalee examined it. 

 

God Killing 101: a seminar by Nin the Ninja’s supreme* apprentice: B. I. Glyer.

This could be useful... She thought, deciding to see what it was about. 

The seminar was held in a large auditorium, with a few hundred chairs arranged in front of a stage. The chairs were inhabited sparsely by a variety of adventuring types. There were cloaked loners, armored knights, futuristic robot-hating supersoldiers, robots, a silent hero, and even a dragon, sitting off to one side.

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Ennalee took a seat near the back, a place where she could watch the people going in and out. 

Pulling the cowl of her cloak lower around her face, she pulled out her notebook and began to take notes of the various people that caught her eye. 

I hope this can help me... she thought, examining people as she waited for the seminar to start. 

Posted
54 minutes ago, NameIess said:

So they’d normally work by exerting outside influence on the story, pushing characters to make decisions that worsen the story, then after the Author gives up, the Tyrant flaw would consume the dead story left behind?

The seminar was held in a large auditorium, with a few hundred chairs arranged in front of a stage. The chairs were inhabited sparsely by a variety of adventuring types. There were cloaked loners, armored knights, futuristic robot-hating supersoldiers, robots, a silent hero, and even a dragon, sitting off to one side.

Pretty much. Their influence can be more abstract and have other effects as you see fit, I haven’t clearly defined everything because I thought other people might find the concept interesting, but yeah, that’s about it. I also blame them for writer’s block, so you could say that subversion flaws are ordered dark, while tyrant flaws are more chaotic dark, but again they are outside of these things, so its less Enulling and more of an alignment, or a proficiency. 9/10 would make a far stronger Enuller than Narrator, and at best is or would be a mediocre half luxsprite or withergeist.

this idea that characters or entities have alignments that don’t necessarily match their essence is mostly character driven, and is one reason why Inkwell is partially sentient- he is aligned with chaotic light, and shares the chaotic alignment with the mordite essence. 

Is the Void only dark or specifically chaotic dark?

Posted
1 hour ago, NameIess said:

So they’d normally work by exerting outside influence on the story, pushing characters to make decisions that worsen the story, then after the Author gives up, the Tyrant flaw would consume the dead story left behind?

The seminar was held in a large auditorium, with a few hundred chairs arranged in front of a stage. The chairs were inhabited sparsely by a variety of adventuring types. There were cloaked loners, armored knights, futuristic robot-hating supersoldiers, robots, a silent hero, and even a dragon, sitting off to one side.

Vlanis finds an empty seat and patiently waits, politely greeting anyone passing him while cleaning and reloading his gun.

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One of 9/10mmHB#2’s projections flickers into existence in the back of the seminar room, leaning in the corner with arms crossed, an unimpressed look on his face. He snaps his fingers and a can of soda appears, which he catches, cracks open, and begins sipping on while he loiters, waiting for this dubious seminar to begin. 

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The Outlier appeared on the ground, eyes closed, his chest still feeling phantom pain from Vlanis's bullet. He sighed and banged his fist on the hard floor. Vlanis had got him. Now, nothing could stop him from his vengeful plan. The Outlier was a universe away.
He slowly opened his eyes.
Then snapped up straight.
His surroundings were different, but not in the way of a new universe.
I’m in the same Threadverse as before.
He quickly stood up and frantically looked around. He was alone. 
Most of the time when he died, he would go to a different plane of existence. But there were rare exceptions when he only traveled in time.
But that was only when...
A cruel, familiar voice in his head whispered, I must be honest, this is the most entertainment I've seen since I found you two. I'm not letting you out that easily. 

Outlier clenched his fists for a long moment, tense from anger.
Then he ran down the street, trying to find Vlanis.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Through The Living Coder said:

chat wheres the god murder seminar?

in the auditorium on Ambiguous Ave. in a city somewhere.

Posted
4 hours ago, Through The Living Grass said:

One of 9/10mmHB#2’s projections flickers into existence in the back of the seminar room, leaning in the corner with arms crossed, an unimpressed look on his face. He snaps his fingers and a can of soda appears, which he catches, cracks open, and begins sipping on while he loiters, waiting for this dubious seminar to begin. 

4 hours ago, ThatOneGuyOverThere said:

Vlanis finds an empty seat and patiently waits, politely greeting anyone passing him while cleaning and reloading his gun.

Ennalee sits, making sketches of a few people with a clearly unpracticed hand. One person in particular catches her attention. A man, sitting in a seat. The man holds his gun, cleaning and reloading it as the congregation waits for the seminar to begin. She isn't quite sure why he feels so intriguing to her; there is simply something about him that holds her focus. 

She is in the middle of debating whether or not to speak to him when another person bumps into her, causing her pencil to jolt in an unwanted line across the page. She jerks her head up angrily, ready to fight with whomever had so rudely behaved, but she quickly forgets about the mistreatment. 

Another man, standing near the back of the auditorium, feels yet again familiar, though in a different way than Gun-Man. He...

Ennalee's eyes narrow. It couldn't be. It shouldn't be. ...could it? 

...9/10mmHB#2 certainly had some explaining to do.

 

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The audience began clapping as a man stepped out onto the stage. He was tall, with deep brown eyes and black hair, and a dashing scar just below his right eye. He wore a well-tailored green cloak with golden trim and a carved ruby pin, and the hilt of a sword, rather plain and unadorned compared to the rest of his attire, stuck out from within the cloak. He walked to a microphone on the stage, fiddling with it for a moment before raising his eyes back to the crowd.

"Welcome, welcome." He said with a grin. "I'm your host, B. I. Glyer, god killer extraordinaire, a top-rated adventurer, chosen wielder of a legendary Plotblade." He winked, resting a hand on the sword sticking from his cloak. "But enough about me. You're all here to learn about one thing: How to kill gods." He pointed into the crowd. "We've got a wide variety of speakers lined up, who'll talk about a lot of the specifics of killing gods. But for this first session, I'd like to ask all of you: What are you hoping to get out of this seminar? What gods do you hope to kill? What information do you most want from me? If you want to speak just raise your hand and he'll give you a mic. Let us know your name, where you're from, and ask whatever questions you want."

He lowered his mic and sat back, waiting for someone to raise their hand.

@ThatOneGuyOverThere @Through The Living Grass @Through The Living Star

6 hours ago, Through The Living Grass said:

Pretty much. Their influence can be more abstract and have other effects as you see fit, I haven’t clearly defined everything because I thought other people might find the concept interesting, but yeah, that’s about it. I also blame them for writer’s block, so you could say that subversion flaws are ordered dark, while tyrant flaws are more chaotic dark, but again they are outside of these things, so its less Enulling and more of an alignment, or a proficiency. 9/10 would make a far stronger Enuller than Narrator, and at best is or would be a mediocre half luxsprite or withergeist.

this idea that characters or entities have alignments that don’t necessarily match their essence is mostly character driven, and is one reason why Inkwell is partially sentient- he is aligned with chaotic light, and shares the chaotic alignment with the mordite essence. 

Is the Void only dark or specifically chaotic dark?

The void would be specifically chaotic dark, similar to how reality is chaotic light. Ennullers can travel safely through it because they aren't made of light and can hide/don't immediately aggravate withergeists, allowing for convenient between-universe travel. 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, NameIess said:

The audience began clapping as a man stepped out onto the stage. He was tall, with deep brown eyes and black hair, and a dashing scar just below his right eye. He wore a well-tailored green cloak with golden trim and a carved ruby pin, and the hilt of a sword, rather plain and unadorned compared to the rest of his attire, stuck out from within the cloak. He walked to a microphone on the stage, fiddling with it for a moment before raising his eyes back to the crowd.

"Welcome, welcome." He said with a grin. "I'm your host, B. I. Glyer, god killer extraordinaire, a top-rated adventurer, chosen wielder of a legendary Plotblade." He winked, resting a hand on the sword sticking from his cloak. "But enough about me. You're all here to learn about one thing: How to kill gods." He pointed into the crowd. "We've got a wide variety of speakers lined up, who'll talk about a lot of the specifics of killing gods. But for this first session, I'd like to ask all of you: What are you hoping to get out of this seminar? What gods do you hope to kill? What information do you most want from me? If you want to speak just raise your hand and he'll give you a mic. Let us know your name, where you're from, and ask whatever questions you want."

He lowered his mic and sat back, waiting for someone to raise their hand.

@ThatOneGuyOverThere @Through The Living Grass @Through The Living Star

The void would be specifically chaotic dark, similar to how reality is chaotic light. Ennullers can travel safely through it because they aren't made of light and can hide/don't immediately aggravate withergeists, allowing for convenient between-universe travel. 

Vlanis stood and calmly raised his hand. 

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40 minutes ago, NameIess said:

The audience began clapping as a man stepped out onto the stage. He was tall, with deep brown eyes and black hair, and a dashing scar just below his right eye. He wore a well-tailored green cloak with golden trim and a carved ruby pin, and the hilt of a sword, rather plain and unadorned compared to the rest of his attire, stuck out from within the cloak. He walked to a microphone on the stage, fiddling with it for a moment before raising his eyes back to the crowd.

"Welcome, welcome." He said with a grin. "I'm your host, B. I. Glyer, god killer extraordinaire, a top-rated adventurer, chosen wielder of a legendary Plotblade." He winked, resting a hand on the sword sticking from his cloak. "But enough about me. You're all here to learn about one thing: How to kill gods." He pointed into the crowd. "We've got a wide variety of speakers lined up, who'll talk about a lot of the specifics of killing gods. But for this first session, I'd like to ask all of you: What are you hoping to get out of this seminar? What gods do you hope to kill? What information do you most want from me? If you want to speak just raise your hand and he'll give you a mic. Let us know your name, where you're from, and ask whatever questions you want."

He lowered his mic and sat back, waiting for someone to raise their hand.

@ThatOneGuyOverThere @Through The Living Grass @Through The Living Star

The void would be specifically chaotic dark, similar to how reality is chaotic light. Ennullers can travel safely through it because they aren't made of light and can hide/don't immediately aggravate withergeists, allowing for convenient between-universe travel. 

9/10mmHB#2 sighed dramatically. He pointed towards the ceiling, and a lightweaving of the Witherlord appeared in midair, shrouded in chaotic darkness and crowned with Malevolence. The miscellaneous crowd members gasped like a stock sound effect, or possibly another illusion, and 9/10 took a casual sip of his cola. 

“Look, I don’t know if he’s officially a god or anything… he doesn’t have a title and I haven’t seen anyone worshipping him… yet. But he’s got close to the firepower, and he also wants me dead, impersonally. So yeah. If you’ve got ideas, or theory, I’ll listen.” His voice doesn’t echo, doesn’t need a microphone, but to all listening it sounds like he’s speaking softly right in front of you. He takes another sip of his cola. “But let the new guy go first, he probably has an easier question,” he amends, gesturing to Vlanis.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, ThatOneGuyOverThere said:

Vlanis stood and calmly raised his hand. 

"Ah, our first taker!" Glyer pointed out Vlanis, and an aide hurried to rush over with a microphone. "What do you want out of this seminar?"

18 minutes ago, Through The Living Grass said:

9/10mmHB#2 sighed dramatically. He pointed towards the ceiling, and a lightweaving of the Witherlord appeared in midair, shrouded in chaotic darkness and crowned with Malevolence. The miscellaneous crowd members gasped like a stock sound effect, or possibly another illusion, and 9/10 took a casual sip of his cola. 

Glyer eyed the lightweaving in amusement. "Ah, the Witherlord. Well, I suppose any discussion about killing gods will inevitably lead back to that big bad, now that he's back." He gave 9/10 a sly grin. "Suffice it to say, we'll discuss him in time, though I don't want to get to him tonight. We have to save something to get you all to come back, now don't we?"

A few chuckles came from the audience at that, though most seemed to want to avoid looking at the image of the Witherlord.

"Now," Glyer said. "Back to the man with the question. Let's hear it: What do you want to learn here?"

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6 minutes ago, NameIess said:

"Ah, our first taker!" Glyer pointed out Vlanis, and an aide hurried to rush over with a microphone. "What do you want out of this seminar?"

Glyer eyed the lightweaving in amusement. "Ah, the Witherlord. Well, I suppose any discussion about killing gods will inevitably lead back to that big bad, now that he's back." He gave 9/10 a sly grin. "Suffice it to say, we'll discuss him in time, though I don't want to get to him tonight. We have to save something to get you all to come back, now don't we?"

A few chuckles came from the audience at that, though most seemed to want to avoid looking at the image of the Witherlord.

"Now," Glyer said. "Back to the man with the question. Let's hear it: What do you want to learn here?"

Not even sparing the Witherlord a glance, Vlanis asked, "How do you kill Narrators?"

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Ennalee froze. That word... Narrators. It sent an unconscious chill up her spine, and she found herself reaching for a sword that no longer hung at her waist. She didn't know what it meant, but something inside her clearly did. 

You know the truth, that voice in her head whispered, and she once again dismissed it, focusing on what Glyer would say. 

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