The Longest Thread (Misadventures)

[OoklaApologist She/her]

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

here: Link

wait there's a wiki

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

3 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

One of the more active ones, I guess? 

Everyone's literally at the 4000 page party rn

[OoklaApologist She/her]

yall have everything

Let's do this. My charecter's name is Specie, and I'll jump in when I see a window.

[Shatter He/Him]

1 minute ago, KelsierApologist said:

wait there's a wiki

Naw. It's just chaos. This thread is entropy incarnate. OOOOOO. That's be a good band name. Entropy Incarnate.

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

Just now, KelsierApologist said:

wait there's a wiki

There is, but it’s very unfinished at the moment. I’m thinking of making an orientation page.
When posting, bold text you want to be canon. 
A random guy - whose name happened to be Everet - wearing a cape wandered around looking for someone to talk to. 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

4 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Okay okay...

Well, my character is going back in time to get Luxite and a Luxsprite for a quest. A new type of being appeared, the Corrupters (also known as Shapers) which have most of the details here: Link. A shaper named Muin has embarked on a quest to get an Ennuller, Narrator, Luxsprite, and Withergiest (He's gonna attempt to get the Witherlord) core to stop Esruc. He believes that Luxite will allow him to shape a 'cage' to trap whatever Withergiest he manages to capture. This is mostly the plotline, more background info is in the link, but I think Rebus is in it (@Dragonheir), possibly symbol, (@Through The Living Glass) and one of @Bird Furious's characters.

Okay but you remember that this "new type of being" that you made is not one of the fundamentals, right? Just making sure . . .

I can't view the Wiki so I just need to make sure you didn't write that anywhere

3 minutes ago, KelsierApologist said:

yall have everything

Let's do this. My charecter's name is Specie, and I'll jump in when I see a window.

A window appeared.

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

51 minutes ago, Wyver said:

"What is this?" Taidin said, clearly confused.

"Where did you take me?"

[OoklaApologist She/her]

Just now, The Shattered Cosmere said:

Naw. It's just chaos. This thread is entropy incarnate. OOOOOO. That's be a good band name. Entropy Incarnate.

Sweet. Also, if I retcon accidentally, just let me know and I'll change it.

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, epl2 said:

"Where did you take me?"

"Welcome...ta mah head. Sorry, i's a li'l loud, I got a lot o' stuff stuck up 'ere. Yeh should be hidden fer a bit, though. Again, though, yeh can only stay 'ere for like ten minutes 'fore yeh get kicked out."

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

3 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Okay but you remember that this "new type of being" that you made is not one of the fundamentals, right? Just making sure . . .

I can't view the Wiki so I just need to make sure you didn't write that anywhere

A window appeared.

well.... I mean... it is a blank fundamental. It is a new kind that exists in the middle. Possibly even a... CHOATIC ORDER fundamental? (eh? @Dragonheir? eh??)

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Okay but you remember that this "new type of being" that you made is not one of the fundamentals, right? Just making sure . . .

I can't view the Wiki so I just need to make sure you didn't write that anywhere 

I believe at the moment it says something like “some people think that the Shapers are fundamental and represent the center of the axes, but many are skeptical. Only time (and an agreement between the Authors) will tell”. Actually, if it doesn’t say that, I might make it say that. 

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

well.... I mean... it is a blank fundamental. It is a new kind that exists in the middle. Possibly even a... CHOATIC ORDER fundamental? (eh? @Dragonheir? eh??)

If that was the case, they’d need to continually acquire Nullite and Prismite or they’d permanently lose their powers.

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

well.... I mean... it is a blank fundamental. It is a new kind that exists in the middle. Possibly even a... CHOATIC ORDER fundamental? (eh? @Dragonheir? eh??)

*nabs*

I don't think so.

We have the four fundamentals, yeah? A blank fundamental . . . I would argue that's just a normal character. We can't just make a new foundational element of the Thread.

1 minute ago, Dragonheir said:

I believe at the moment it says something like “some people think that the Shapers are fundamental and represent the center of the axes, but many are skeptical. Only time (and an agreement between the Authors) will tell”. Actually, if it doesn’t say that, I might make it say that. 

Ah, okay. Well . . . still.

1 minute ago, Dragonheir said:

If that was the case, they’d need to continually acquire Nullite and Prismite or they’d permanently lose their powers.

What powers though? The two repel each other, do they not?

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

We have the four fundamentals, yeah? A blank fundamental . . . I would argue that's just a normal character. We can't just make a new foundational element of the Thread.

Uh, but me, Platypus, and whoever invented Balancium already have. We’d need some manner of retconning and modification, and an agreement between many Authors, but I think it can work. 
Characters are of Chaotic Light, apparently. It’s very faint, but since writing things is creative, most things the Authors make is slightly Chaotic Light. 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

4 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Uh, but me, Platypus, and whoever invented Balancium already have. We’d need some manner of retconning and modification, and an agreement between many Authors, but I think it can work. 

But is it really a new element? If you mix two metals together you get an alloy- but they're still made of two elements. You didn't make a new element, you just created a new substance that can be separated into its two parts again (in my opinion, at least).

4 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Characters are of Chaotic Light, apparently. It’s very faint, but since writing things is creative, most things the Authors make is slightly Chaotic Light. 

Really?

Huh

. . . weird but I guess that makes sense-

I remember something from a while ago- something about the Thread being fundamentally made of Prismite? Or maybe Nullite . . . I don't remember. Nameless or Xino mentioned it once

Edited April 23, 2025 by Through The Living Glass

[The Great Wyver She/Her]

18 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

"Welcome...ta mah head. Sorry, i's a li'l loud, I got a lot o' stuff stuck up 'ere. Yeh should be hidden fer a bit, though. Again, though, yeh can only stay 'ere for like ten minutes 'fore yeh get kicked out."

"Your head?" Taedin asked. "It's just... empty space?"

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

2 minutes ago, Wyver said:

"Your head?" Taedin asked. "It's just... empty space?"

Wait...I'm confused. Who's controlling the character?

"Mos'ly, yeh. Jus' stay in the middle. The edges an' back ain't particularly safe, but the front an' middle are fine."

[Bird Furious she/her/un/important]

1 hour ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Sheldon looked up at her and felt sad. His mommy didn't want to see him . . .

Oh- wait, she did? Okay, nevermind.

He accepted the pets happily.

-

Uhh . . .

She walked through a few rows of shelves.

Oh, here they are. Gosh dang, that's a lot of books.

-

His face turned red with embarrassment.

He really hoped no one else had heard that . . .

He chased after her faster.

BEOSTA! GET BACK HERE!

"Aw, no, of course I want to see you," she told him. 

-

Bat nodded. Then his eyes widened. He pointed at a book high up on the very tall shelf labeled simply Bat. 

-

"NO!" 

She ran into a wall. 

1 hour ago, Dragonheir said:

“I’m aware. I built some of it.” Rebus had meant a false sense of security about him. 
And Rebus appeared in the spotlight, flashing a dazzling smile. And he was wearing a tuxedo, with a bright orange tie. “I did tell you I wanted to make a dramatic entrance.” 
Jack, being a clockwork automaton, had little use for drinks and politely declined. 
Stopping time, or filling out paperwork? 

oh, my bad. 

"Pineapple juice?" 

"You did," she agreed. "It was a very dramatic entrance." 

Symbol offered him a goblet of oil. 

I dunno. Something remotely interesting. 

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

21 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

What powers though? The two repel each other, do they not?

Usually, they do - one of the ways to mix them is Combinase (or whatever we’ll call it), but the material is unstable, and can only be retained by using itself to make more of itself before it falls apart. 

15 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

But is it really a new element? If you mix two metals together you get an alloy- but they're still made of two elements. You didn't make a new elements, you just created a new substance that can be separated into its two parts again. (in my opinion, at least)

Really?

Huh

. . . weird but I guess that makes sense-

I remember something from a while ago- something about the Thread being fundamentally made of Prismite? Or maybe Nullite . . . I don't remember. Nameless or Xino mentioned it once

Yeah - all the weirder combinations feel like they should be dangerous, unstable, practically useless, or all three. (Rebus’s is definitely the first two, and much less useful than Narration, though it has some useful applications for someone who can already do most things Narration can) 

Yeah, the material quite aggressively separates into its parts, though since they’re Light and Dark is removed, it just makes Chaos and Order (all four of those parts aren’t stabilized, so they make lowercase light, dark, chaos, and order when they are released). 

Yeah, I think the Thread was of Prismite, canon and the rules of Luxite, site rules of Nullite, and maybe something of Mordite. 

2 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

oh, my bad. 

"Pineapple juice?" 

"You did," she agreed. "It was a very dramatic entrance." 

Symbol offered him a goblet of oil. 

I dunno. Something remotely interesting. 

“Very well. There’s someone around who I’m supposed to talk to…” 

“Well then, may I have this dance?” Rebus was grinning. 
Jack accepted it. “I suppose I could use an oiling, though I don’t have time for that now.” 
Which was which one? 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

9 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

"Aw, no, of course I want to see you," she told him. 

-

Bat nodded. Then his eyes widened. He pointed at a book high up on the very tall shelf labeled simply Bat. 

-

"NO!" 

She ran into a wall. 

He brightened and bit her finger.

Not hard- just enough so that she couldn't get him off.

-

She smiled and it floated to him.

-

He winced and stopped beside her.

You okay?

6 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Usually, they do - one of the ways to mix them is Combinase (or whatever we’ll call it), but the material is unstable, and can only be retained by using itself to make more of itself before it falls apart. 

Where did Combinase come from?

8 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Yeah - all the weirder combinations feel like they should be dangerous, unstable, practically useless, or all three. (Rebus’s is definitely the first two, and much less useful than Narration, though it has some useful applications for someone who can already do most things Narration can) 

Yeah, the material quite aggressively separates into its parts, though since they’re Light and Dark is removed, it just makes Chaos and Order (all four of those parts aren’t stabilized, so they make lowercase light, dark, chaos, and order when they are released). 

Yeah, I think the Thread was of Prismite, canon and the rules of Luxite, site rules of Nullite, and maybe something of Mordite. 

I could see a feasible bonding of Light substances or Darkness substances, but Light and Darkness together doesn't seem possible, even with a bonding agent.

So they make lesser magic systems?

Alright, thanks

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

12 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Where did Combinase come from?

I could see a feasible bonding of Light substances or Darkness substances, but Light and Darkness together doesn't seem possible, even with a bonding agent.

So they make lesser magic systems?

Alright, thanks

Narration, Shaping, Abstraction, Prismite, and Nullite, in a process that required pretty intensive Metaphysics knowledge. You could make it other ways (Nameless’s essence-changing medallion comes to mind), but it’s much easier to use itself to make more. (Alternately, if you were asking about the name, ase is the suffix for enzymes and occasionally other catalysts) 

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it would either implode or explode unless you managed to put all four together to make balancium. 
Yeah, that’s how I feel it should work. 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

3 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Narration, Shaping, Abstraction, Prismite, and Nullite, in a process that required pretty intensive Metaphysics knowledge. You could make it other ways (Nameless’s essence-changing medallion comes to mind), but it’s much easier to use itself to make more. (Alternately, if you were asking about the name, ase is the suffix for enzymes and occasionally other catalysts) 

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it would either implode or explode unless you managed to put all four together to make balancium. 

Whoa, hang on, where did Shaping and Abstraction come from? Are those Dragon's? I'm still super against this . . . if he wants to make his own magic system, he can. I don't think he should be changing the very nature of the Thread's fundamental substances.

mmmmmmmmm . . . I don't see how we could make a new element then.

Edited April 23, 2025 by Through The Living Glass

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

3 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Whoa, hang on, where did Shaping and Abstraction come from? Are those Dragon's? I'm still super against this . . . if he wants to make his own magic system, he can. I don't think he should be changing the very nature of the Thread's fundamental substances.

mmmmmmmmm . . . I don't see how we could make a new element then.

Shaping/Corruption was Dragon’s (it was necessary to force the two metals to touch, but could be substituted with many different things, and doesn’t need to be fundament for the thing to work), but Abstraction is the weapon Rebus got from the Dreamsmith (so it’s other Dragon’s, aka mine). It does about what you’d expect, and was needed to keep the initial Chaos and Order for dissipating before they combined. 
Well, there’s Light, Order, and Chaos, though those may not be very useful. And if Rebus gets his hands on more Darkalloy and a Plotblade nobody wants, he might try to allow Plotium with an Essence. 

[Through The Living Ash he/him]

51 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

Wait...I'm confused. Who's controlling the character?

"Mos'ly, yeh. Jus' stay in the middle. The edges an' back ain't particularly safe, but the front an' middle are fine."

I am, and @Wyver has been occasionally. 

"Why only ten minutes?" 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 hour ago, Through The Living Glass said:

But is it really a new element? If you mix two metals together you get an alloy- but they're still made of two elements. You didn't make a new element, you just created a new substance that can be separated into its two parts again (in my opinion, at least).

Really?

Huh

. . . weird but I guess that makes sense-

I remember something from a while ago- something about the Thread being fundamentally made of Prismite? Or maybe Nullite . . . I don't remember. Nameless or Xino mentioned it once

56 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Usually, they do - one of the ways to mix them is Combinase (or whatever we’ll call it), but the material is unstable, and can only be retained by using itself to make more of itself before it falls apart. 

Yeah - all the weirder combinations feel like they should be dangerous, unstable, practically useless, or all three. (Rebus’s is definitely the first two, and much less useful than Narration, though it has some useful applications for someone who can already do most things Narration can) 

Yeah, the material quite aggressively separates into its parts, though since they’re Light and Dark is removed, it just makes Chaos and Order (all four of those parts aren’t stabilized, so they make lowercase light, dark, chaos, and order when they are released). 

Yeah, I think the Thread was of Prismite, canon and the rules of Luxite, site rules of Nullite, and maybe something of Mordite. 

“Very well. There’s someone around who I’m supposed to talk to…” 

“Well then, may I have this dance?” Rebus was grinning. 
Jack accepted it. “I suppose I could use an oiling, though I don’t have time for that now.” 
Which was which one? 

Well, I am trying to make my magic system fit in with the greater TLT, but if you really don't want me to create a new fundamental axis, that's fine (Note: It wouldn't actually be a new fundamental axis, it would merely be in the middle of the current axis. I would argue that it is more of a cone than a 2D surface, and the closer to the tip, the more possibilities there would be. Shapers are just the crux of that possibility, and are incredibly unstable. In the wiki I describe Smokite (a new fundamental substance) that is incredibly unstable and cannot exist without outside intervention. Shapers are merely sentient Smokite, and can be their own outside intervention.

Also, they wouldn't have to constantly acquire nullite and prismite, because there are other kinds of Chaotic Order reactions. I could argue that shaping is just a unique chaotic order reaction, and needs to constantly occur to stay alive.

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

24 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Shaping/Corruption was Dragon’s (it was necessary to force the two metals to touch, but could be substituted with many different things, and doesn’t need to be fundament for the thing to work), but Abstraction is the weapon Rebus got from the Dreamsmith (so it’s other Dragon’s, aka mine). It does about what you’d expect, and was needed to keep the initial Chaos and Order for dissipating before they combined. 
Well, there’s Light, Order, and Chaos, though those may not be very useful. And if Rebus gets his hands on more Darkalloy and a Plotblade nobody wants, he might try to allow Plotium with an Essence. 

I see.

6 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Well, I am trying to make my magic system fit in with the greater TLT, but if you really don't want me to create a new fundamental axis, that's fine (Note: It wouldn't actually be a new fundamental axis, it would merely be in the middle of the current axis. I would argue that it is more of a cone than a 2D surface, and the closer to the tip, the more possibilities there would be. Shapers are just the crux of that possibility, and are incredibly unstable. In the wiki I describe Smokite (a new fundamental substance) that is incredibly unstable and cannot exist without outside intervention. Shapers are merely sentient Smokite, and can be their own outside intervention.

Also, they wouldn't have to constantly acquire nullite and prismite, because there are other kinds of Chaotic Order reactions. I could argue that shaping is just a unique chaotic order reaction, and needs to constantly occur to stay alive.

Yeah, I don't think we should make a new element. Thank you though.

If you wanted to make an "alloy" of sorts with the fundamental substances though, I'm sure that'd be totally fine!  No problems there

Your magic system could still work on the foundational elements (depending on how you use them), and with Rebus' Plotblade you could do a lot, so I don't see an issue with combining them into something new.

Smokite could easily exist outside of the foundational magic system.