MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Is this out of order in the write-up? yes here is the post I vote drought devotary votes the post after Edited March 7, 2018 by MonsterMetroid
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Is this out of order in the write-up? The vote tallies are in a kind of order, but not that particular kind. It's ordered by placement in the player list, since that is also the order of players in the spreadsheet.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 @MonsterMetroid While I don't have time to address all your points, I will note that I have a tendency to couch my posts in uncertainty. Here are examples from two previous games. " I'm not a fan of assuming that there are three elims left, but it does seem reasonable to suppose that there are at least two remaining, and that only one of them is BR or Monster. That means that at least one of Caesura, Steeldancer, and me is evil. As the counter-lynch on C1 to save Steeldancer came mostly from confirmed non-elims and his vote on me did not seem to be coordinated, I trust him more than Caesura." "If there was another village snoop, they probably would have targeted me by now, as they've had 3 nights to do so. I'm okay with this plan. I doubt the elims thought I was in contact with a snoop, as PMs are only open at night and I don't get my scan results until after the night is over. Ornstein and livinglegend haven't posted, so they can't take any actions even if they are elims." And yes @BrightnessRadiant, Monster did vote about 11 minutes before I did, which I consider to be roughly the same time as I had started writing my post before Monster finished voting.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Ahhh I see okay that's why I suspected Devotary more than Monster last cycle I'd say if Joe flips elim I'd consider Monster or Ecth. Please don't vote there just because I think that. (I think I'm dying haha) please do analysis
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: " I'm not a fan of assuming that there are three elims left, but it does seem reasonable to suppose that there are at least two remaining, and that only one of them is BR or Monster. That means that at least one of Caesura, Steeldancer, and me is evil. As the counter-lynch on C1 to save Steeldancer came mostly from confirmed non-elims and his vote on me did not seem to be coordinated, I trust him more than Caesura." Hey! I remember that game... maybe I just never noticed since I was an elim that game and knew who was and wasn't haha but I dont have time to go though all of your past games in 5 minutes so I'm just gonna keep my vote there sorry but tomorrow if joe is village I will analyze all of your past games (assuming elims dont this round (please let joe be elim I wouldnt mind being wrong))
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Please someone save me, i want to liiiive 1
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 This cycle is now closed, the following one should be together shortly.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) There were a group of people before the Ascension known as the Astalsi. They claimed that each person was born with a certain finite amount of ill luck. And so, when an unfortunate event happened, they thought themselves blessed—thereafter, their lives could only get better. They thought that different colors were indications of different kinds of fortune, and were quite detailed in their descriptions of light and color. They had a scale of colors, and used it to describe the sky of the deepest blue and various plants in their shades of green. Following the death of the two awakeners, the majority of the lifeless either retreated from the camp or were killed. The perimeter around the camp hung in a delicate balance. On one hand, the lifeless were depleted in numbers, and their hold on the boundary was tenuous. On the other hand, they had resorted to using lethal force to hold the barrier. Kind of metaphorical, Jeo mused, for the whole camp. He made eye contact with Fahmexa across the campfire. A small group at his back, a slightly larger one amassed behind her. There wasn't much left to say, really. Unless... "I disapprove of violence. Can we not find a peaceful resolution to this?" Jeo queried. Some of the soldiers murmered at this. It was a rare thing to see an enlisted pacifist. Truth was, Jeo's enlistment was a farce. He would have been wasted as a soldier. "A peaceful resolution? Not likely," Fahmexa replied, her eyes flashing with firelight. "I really don't see a way forward that doesn't involve only one of us walking away from this." "I understand," Jeo said, resigned. "I don't want anyone to die, but I understand. We can still decide this peacefully, however." He procured a small coin, holding it up in the firelight for all to see. "One last gamble. I rest my fate in the hands of fate, such as it is. A clean resolution to this." "Hm. Agreed," Fahmexa said. "Face-down, I win, face-up, you win?" Jeo nodded, casting the coin high above them and murmering a prayer to the gods of luck. It arced back down to earth, spinning all the way, before plummeting into the fire, sending up a plume of sparks and smoke... Jeo the Yellow leaned over the fire, gazing down at the coin. Face down. He cursed. The gods of luck had betrayed him. Betrayed him when it counted most. He sighed, drawing a long knife blade as the soldiers closed in on him. As much as he hated it, his hand was being forced. "We didn't want this. None of us wanted to kill you, that was never our mission. We just wanted to delay you! But you, you colorless monsters are just too bloodthirsty! You won't stop until everyone is dead, and I'm not willing to die just to avoid killing you. But you brought this upon yourself. I'm sorry." With that, Jeo charged the soldiers, lashing out at the closest target, assailing Sarcoline with a ferocity born of desperation. She brought up a shortsword to stab him in the side, and then another soldier struck him in the back with something heavy. Jeo went down, and an intense but fleeting pain in the base of his neck ended it. "Well," Ivy noted, "I'm glad nobody else was hurt." "Not... Quite... True," Sarcoline wheezed, collapsing near Jeo's body, exposing the handle of Jeo's knife protruding from her abdomen, angled upwards towards more vital organs. "Somebody with medical training, quick!" Eilen shouted. "I... don't know if that will help," Sarcoline said in a quiet voice, her breathing extremely forced. "My painting... Please," she forced out. One of the soldiers ran to fetch the painting. [To be continued. As I understand it, Ripple has an actual painting to share.] It was only later that day that the lifeless came, to claim Jeo's body where it lay slain by the campfire. Nobody made a move to stop them from gathering the body or Jeo's possessions, and the lifeless made no move to hinder the camp as they held the burial of Sarcoline. For a brief, fleeting moment, there was an unspoken peace as both sides tended to their dead in their own ways. The beginning of this scene was originally a response to the tied vote, but I think it's appropriate regardless of the final vote count, given that this is the death scene of Jeo the Yellow. Also, credits to Joe for his dying speech. And to Ripple ‘cause like I said pretty sure they have plans. Go upvote them maybe. Vote Tally Joe (4)- Devotary, Ripple, Arinian, BrightnessDevotary (2)- Joe, MonsterMonster (1)- Ecthelion A Joe in the Bush has been lynched! Identity of the deceased: RippleGylf has been murdered! Identity of the deceased: Player List 1. A Joe in the Bush as Jeo the Yellow Hallandren 2. Elenion as Gormund Oscarson Idrian 3. Randuir as commander Jaaver Idrian Captain 4. Livinglegend as Lucky Idrian Sentry 5. Shqueeves as Shu Idrian Awakener 6. Bort as Bort the Brute Idrian Captain 7. BrightnessRadiant as Ivy 8. Straw as Straw Idrian 9. TheMightyLopen as Vaati Idrian 10. MacThorstenson as Mac Idrian 11. Devotary of Spontaneity as Fahmexa 12. Ecthelion as Eärendil 13. Coop772 as Salthis Idrian 14. MonsterMetroid as Roid 15. Droughtbringer as Zaffer Hallandren Awakener 16. RippleGylf as Sarcoline Idrian 17. Arinian as Elien Rollover Edited March 7, 2018 by Drake Marshall 7
RippleGylf she/her Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 The soldier rushed back, painting in his hand. My Death, painted by Sarcoline Lepinceau: 6
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Well I will admit I was wrong... I couldnt imagine how blatent some of joes voting was it seemed too blatently elim to be an actual elim. I guess it is just another example of Occam's razor being correct. Sorry I will have to reevaluate my analysis of this.
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Yeeeeees In my mind Arinian is cleared and Devotary helped us lynch Joe and Drought so I'm pretty positive now that they're not an elim. (btw Devo are you a she? Sorry for continuing to call you they but I wasn't sure xD) That leaves Monster and Ecthelion. It's either of them or both. For now, Ecthelion I had PMs with Monster close to the end of the cycle which made me second guess him a lot. I'll try to read back through his and Ecth's posts again before cycle ends tho and I ask that everyone else gives good reasoning with their votes please. @Devotary of Spontaneity @Arinian We have to vote together this cycle if there are two elims left so we have to agree on a lynch candidate. @MonsterMetroid @Ecthelion III If you'd explain why you're not an elim and who you'd lynch instead, that'd be very helpful. Ninja'd by Monster
BrightnessRadiant she/her Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Okay no, if Ecth was trying to save Joe he would've voted Devotary and not Monster when Monster switched to vote Devo. Especially since Monster seemed to trust Devo only the cycle before in pm and later says that their plan to confirm the elim awakener wasn't really that helpful when they had acted like it was the cycle before. I think Ecth would have voted Devotary after I put them up as an alternate lynch, had he been an elim wanting to save Joe. So, Ecthelion Monster you're a top notch bluffer and also you've been trying to convince us that the elim team has four players, but at this point I only see a team of 3 and you as the last.
Arinian Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Yeeeeees In my mind Arinian is cleared and Devotary helped us lynch Joe and Drought so I'm pretty positive now that they're not an elim. (btw Devo are you a she? Sorry for continuing to call you they but I wasn't sure xD) That leaves Monster and Ecthelion. It's either of them or both. For now, Ecthelion I had PMs with Monster close to the end of the cycle which made me second guess him a lot. I'll try to read back through his and Ecth's posts again before cycle ends tho and I ask that everyone else gives good reasoning with their votes please. @Devotary of Spontaneity @Arinian We have to vote together this cycle if there are two elims left so we have to agree on a lynch candidate. @MonsterMetroid @Ecthelion III If you'd explain why you're not an elim and who you'd lynch instead, that'd be very helpful. Ninja'd by Monster I have PM with Monster where I revealed that I'm sentry, but I'm not sure that it's proving something cause I revealed it on cycle when Drought was lynched and probably they decided that Awakener more dangerous then me, and on previous cycle it was pretty obvious that Joe would be lynched and probably Joe sent kill action so well they also was not in danger of sentry.
Ecthelion III he/him Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Quote --Cycle 1-- Mac (2)- Elenion, LopenRanduir (2)- Straw, MacRipple (2)- Ecthelion, MonsterArinian (2)- Drought, JoeStraw (1)- RanduirMonsterMetroid (1)- LivinglegendTheMightyLopen (1)- ShqueevesLivinglegend (1)- BortElenion (1)- BrightnessBort (1)- DevotaryEcthelion (1)- CoopDrought (1)- RippleShqueeves (1)- Arinian --Cycle 2-- Straw (4)- Joe, Elenion, Shqueeves, MacDevotary (3)- Livinglegend, Lopen, MonsterShqueeves (2)- Brightness, Devotary, CoopMac (2)- Straw, RippleRipple (1)- BortElenion (1)- EcthelionArinian (1)- DroughtDrought (1)- Arinian --Cycle 3— Mac (3)- Elenion, Monster, ArinianArinian (3)- Shqueeves, Mac, RippleElenion (3)- Bort, Joe, LopenShqueeves (2)- Brightness, DroughtBort (1)- LivinglegendJoe (1)- DevotaryBrightness (1)- EcthelionDrought (0)- Coop --Cycle 4— Lopen (2)- Bort, Ecthelion, ArinianArinian (2)- Joe, CoopEcthelion (1)- ShqueevesLegend (1)- LopenRipple (1)- DevotaryMac (1)- MonsterBrightness (1)- DroughtDrought (1)- RippleMonster (1)- Brightness --Cycle 5-- Coop (4)- Joe, Brightness, Devotary, DroughtDrought (2)- Shqueeves, CoopArinian (1)- EcthelionBrightness (1)- MonsterJoe (1)- RippleEcthelion (1)- Arinian --Cycle 6-- Drought (7)- Shqueeves, Brightness, Devotary, Monster, Ripple, Arinian, EcthelionShqueeves (2)- Drought, Joe --Cycle 7— Joe (4)- Devotary, Ripple, Arinian, BrightnessDevotary (2)- Joe, MonsterMonster (1)- Ecthelion Yup, Monster. For the reasons I brought up last cycle. Edited March 7, 2018 by Ecthelion III wrong color
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 @Arinian Who were you watching the nights Shqueeves and Ripple were killed?
Arinian Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: @Arinian Who were you watching the nights Shqueeves and Ripple were killed? When Shqueeves died I watched hmm... myself, when Ripple I watched Monster. I'm not very good scanner I know Edit. Just moment ago Monster in our PM just said that he thinks that BR and Devotary elims. Well, Monster. Edited March 7, 2018 by Arinian
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) @BrightnessRadiantwelp at least things are more clear to me now. Tell me Radiant why do you think there was only 3 elims originally? Why? like I stated last cycle. (the "last cycle" in the quote was referring to cycles 6's tag) Quote Also this is just my opinion but I think there may have been 4 elims originally. Since the thread last cycle was marked "close to the end" In any case we can't know that there are only 3 with the information we have so I think it is best to consider all possibilities and not just assume what we want as that gets sloppy. As for my defense First I would like to point to the drought lynch. Squeeves talked to lopen just as I asked him and lopen said in the dead doc row 1 number 2 which indicated in my PM from lopen that Drought was an elim. Squeeves then sent me the PM saying that at Monday at 03:50 PM my time and several hours later drought lied saying there was no word. I can't know when lopen wrote in the dead doc exactly and when but I can assume that drought told his elim teamates that he was toast. I can provide a timeline though Monday at 02:34 PM Arinian votes drought Monday at 02:48 PM Shqueeves posts in the thread Monday at 02:59 PM BR votes drought Monday at 03:50 PM MonsterMetroid recieves PM from squeeves (lopens doc post definately happened by this point) Monday at 06:48 PM MonsterMetroid votes for Drought Monday at 06:59 PM Devotary votes for Drought Before anyone asks It took me so long to vote because I leave work at 4 - 430 and have an over an hour commute after which I eat dinner, and I probably played one of my stupid timewasting mobile apps that you have to check like every 8 hours but I was surprised at the difference in time at analyzing this too so yeah thats why assume I probably played the apps haha. But from this we have a couple of possibilities I am the biggest Jerk and you never ever want to be on an elim team with me because I am a jerk and will ensure your death with my actions (something which if you saw from how I killed us all in the last MR game trying to save Caesura I havent been shown to be) Devotary saw the writing on the wall and decided to turn on the teamate he was defending for a while both devotary and I are elims and we just bicker with each other and try to lynch each other Lopen posted much earlier than shqeeves sent me the PM allowing Drought to warn his teamates earlier. assuming shqueeves checked the dead doc often it would have to be sometimes after the 2:48 post of SHqueeves and before BR's post to make any difference and this just allows for a BR devotary team or BR and me as a team. It is possible but seems least likely. Second to the villagers here I want you to think, before last cycle who would you have guessed to have been murdered last night? would it have been ripple? No. You would have guessed either me or radiant since we have been contributing the most discussion and analysis. Maybe you could even argue Devotary. Instead it was ripple, why was it ripple? Is it because they assume they could get a certain villager lynched? Plus as arinian has pointed out IF I was an elim I would have killed him because I would have known that even if he scanned himself that there appears to be no more awakeners so it couldn't do any good to talk in the dead doc and leaving him alive would have been a very risky gamble thus I would say the elims didn't know he was a scanner before this cycle (aka I am not an elim). All I ask is that the villagers think deeply about this situation, analyse it THOROUGHLY and not just on the surface. Consider all the possibilities because unless Brightness is right and there really is only one more elim and it is Ecth then we just witnessed a marvelous WGG. I will do more analysis on Esch because I haven't given proper consideration to the 3 elim theory of Brightnesses and I have already analysed devotary a lot so it wouldnt hurt to consider it.. 1 hour ago, Ecthelion III said: Yup, Monster. For the reasons I brought up last cycle. Can you bring these up again so I don't have to go looking for them because I am looking for enough at this point as it is. Considering all of this and the post I made yesterday here (please read it and consider it if you haven't) I will be voting for Drought. Devotary (I dont know why I keep getting your guys names mixed up...) Also sorry for the lack of RP I find when I am doing stuff like this it is easier to write out my thoughts and findings as I go and Roidifying all of it afterwards at great effort to make it LESS COMPREHENSIBLE just seems daunting and not in mine or the villages best interest right now but I will see If i can do a separate post later if people would like more Edit: @Arinian, @Ecthelion III, @BrightnessRadiant, @Devotary of Spontaneity Edited March 7, 2018 by MonsterMetroid fixed vote, added edit and fixed reference to last cycle in parenthesis 1
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, MonsterMetroid said: But from this we have a couple of possibilities I am the biggest Jerk and you never ever want to be on an elim team with me because I am a jerk and will ensure your death with my actions (something which if you saw from how I killed us all in the last MR game trying to save Caesura I havent been shown to be) Devotary saw the writing on the wall and decided to turn on the teamate he was defending for a while both devotary and I are elims and we just bicker with each other and try to lynch each other Lopen posted much earlier than shqeeves sent me the PM allowing Drought to warn his teamates earlier. assuming shqueeves checked the dead doc often it would have to be sometimes after the 2:48 post of SHqueeves and before BR's post to make any difference and this just allows for a BR devotary team or BR and me as a team. It is possible but seems least likely. Since we did post at similar times, there exists the possibility that you got confirmation that your teammate Drought was evil and could be proven evil, then decided to sit on it to be sure that the lynch wouldn't swing to Shqueeves. Once you were sure that Drought was doomed, you turned on him. 29 minutes ago, MonsterMetroid said: Plus as arinian has pointed out IF I was an elim I would have killed him because I would have known that even if he scanned himself that there appears to be no more awakeners so it couldn't do any good to talk in the dead doc and leaving him alive would have been a very risky gamble thus I would say the elims didn't know he was a scanner before this cycle (aka I am not an elim). This is exactly why you as an elim might not have killed Arinian. Since Joe was up for the lynch, it seems reasonable to assume that he was the one to put in the kill, thus making the scan useless. By leaving Arinian alive for one more cycle, you could try to clear yourself. I have to go now, but I'll be on later to look through your posts again. For now, Monster.
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: 56 minutes ago, MonsterMetroid said: Plus as arinian has pointed out IF I was an elim I would have killed him because I would have known that even if he scanned himself that there appears to be no more awakeners so it couldn't do any good to talk in the dead doc and leaving him alive would have been a very risky gamble thus I would say the elims didn't know he was a scanner before this cycle (aka I am not an elim). This is exactly why you as an elim might not have killed Arinian. I had a feeling that this arguement might have come up. The risk reward for such a move is so bad its not even funny in order for this to work I would have to Hope arinian doesnt scan something important Hope arinian claims publicly in thread that I knew last cycle Win an IKYK with everyone in thread And I would have to take that gamble with the added knowledge that If I was an elim I would know Joe was an elim and moving my vote off of him would make me the number one suspect No If I was an elim I would have killed either someone who was actively casting suspicion on me or arinian because I knew he was a scanner the risk reward of that plan is WAY too stupid with too many game ending implications The much simpler answer is that the elims knew that the either BR or me were going to be scanned and they didnt know who was the scanner. They also knew they had a good chance to get Me lynched especially if they pulled a WGG on Joe because he made too many mistakes and too many people suspected him, and it was just convenient that I decided to vote on devotary. @BrightnessRadiantI would like to know why you voted on devotary and just because he voted on joe after 3 people already voted on him you think he is cleared now. You didnt finalize your vote on joe until the final hour and only after I placed a vote on devotary. To me this situation reads as you using the bandwagon of joe as an opportunity to distance yourself from a teammate, but when the votes were close enough to flip by one swing vote you knew that the risk of lynching someone with decent village rep was a greater risk so you switched to ensure joe died. 25 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: Since Joe was up for the lynch, it seems reasonable to assume that he was the one to put in the kill, thus making the scan useless. By leaving Arinian alive for one more cycle, you could try to clear yourself. Interesting... is that the way it works then? @Drake Marshallcan the person getting lynched put in the kill for the same night? Everyone, especially @Arinian, and @Ecthelion III, I have a plan if you choose to go along with It. If Brightness Radiant is right, and I am the sole remaining elim then it would mean that if you lynch me and I flip elim then you would win, If I flip village then you would know that devotary or BR is the elim. If Brightness Radiant is right, and Devotary is the sole remaining elim then it would mean that if you lynch him and he flips elim then you would win, If he flips village you would 100% know that I am elim? If I am right and there are 2 elims left and I flip elim what do you learn? Everyone thinks I am an elim at this point and wants me dead. If I flip village then village would lose this cycle. If I am right and there are 2 elims left and Devotary flips elim what do you learn? That I am village 100%, that Brightness is likely the teammate. If Devotary flips village well you would lose but you would know that I am 100% elim along with some mysterious teammate somewhere. In any case using Brightness Radiants own assumption it makes much more sense to lynch Devotary than it does me So brightness I ask you to reconsider switching your vote to devotary like you did last cycle.
Arinian Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Aaa! Hard decisions, I hate hard decisions. Everything is possible... hmm... need to think more about it.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MonsterMetroid said: Interesting... is that the way it works then? @Drake Marshall can the person getting lynched put in the kill for the same night? All sorts of dying come at the end in the order of actions, so yes, it is possible to make a kill on the same cycle that you are lynched. (not confirming or denying if this is what just happened, naturally)
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said: All sorts of dying come at the end in the order of actions, so yes, it is possible to make a kill on the same cycle that you are lynched. (not confirming or denying if this is what just happened, naturally) Interesting... just curious @Devotary of Spontaneityhow did you know this was the case?
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Arinian said: it was pretty obvious that Joe would be lynched and probably Joe sent kill action so well they also was not in danger of sentry. Arinian made the same assumption up here, and it seemed a plausible theory. 2 hours ago, MonsterMetroid said: If I am right and there are 2 elims left and Devotary flips elim what do you learn? That I am village 100%, that Brightness is likely the teammate. If Devotary flips village well you would lose but you would know that I am 100% elim along with some mysterious teammate somewhere. In any case using Brightness Radiants own assumption it makes much more sense to lynch Devotary than it does me So brightness I ask you to reconsider switching your vote to devotary like you did last cycle. I'm not sure how that bolded part is helping you prove your point. More generally, you're saying that it's better to lynch me because you have no obvious teammates, while BR helped turn the lynch towards Joe away from me last cycle, and is thus a potential teammate? That the likeliest possibilities are that either you are the last elim, or that I and a teammate are evil? Just want to make sure I know what you're saying.
MonsterMetroid Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: 4 hours ago, MonsterMetroid said: If I am right and there are 2 elims left and Devotary flips elim what do you learn? That I am village 100%, that Brightness is likely the teammate. If Devotary flips village well you would lose but you would know that I am 100% elim along with some mysterious teammate somewhere. In any case using Brightness Radiants own assumption it makes much more sense to lynch Devotary than it does me So brightness I ask you to reconsider switching your vote to devotary like you did last cycle. I'm not sure how that bolded part is helping you prove your point. That is if there is two remaining elims then you turning village would be game over and village would lose. My main point is that there are a variety of scenarios, if this game is to last more than one more round then lynching you will provide better more definite data to work with on. If there are two elims left then lynching me eitehr provides no additional data or ends in a village loss. whereas lynching you 7 hours ago, BrightnessRadiant said: Okay no, if Ecth was trying to save Joe he would've voted Devotary and not Monster when Monster switched to vote Devo. Especially since Monster seemed to trust Devo only the cycle before in pm and later says that their plan to confirm the elim awakener wasn't really that helpful when they had acted like it was the cycle before. just noticed this. I never said I trusted Devotary the cycle before... I haven't trusted devotary since the beginning of the game. What I was trying to say that if we went exactly by Devotary's plan we would have only proved that both Drought and SHqueeves had access to the doc and then he wanted to push back the lynch until we knew that much using lopens PM's. This felt like a delay tactic immediately to me especially when we could just ask lopen which one he thought was the elim in code. In short it felt like a decent plan but not a great plan with the purpose of delaying a decision on the lynch. But I would like to know the reasons, @BrightnessRadiant, @Ecthelion III, @Arinian, and @Devotary of Spontaneity that you guys think I am an elim. And I mean besides that "It has to be you or so and so" and that I voted on devotary last cycle which is still NAI. Just because Joe was an elim and devotary voted on him does not mean that Devotary is not an elim. And a villager could just as easily disagree with the village as an elim could Suicidely try to protect in vain Anyways here is the current vote count if I am doing math right in my head MonsterMetroid(4) BrightnessRadiant, Ecthelion III, Arinian, and Devotary of Spontaneity Devotary(1) Monster Gosh I have been working on this post for over an hour and my poor brain is fried. I still hate the way I expalin most of my thoughts because I have never been good putting thoughts to paper. I will say this though just in case I dont feel like getting back on tonight ( really want to watch some Dragon Ball Super tonight). If I die and the game isnt over lynch devotary then based on that result and interactions / who the elims decide to kill decide on the next lynch. I dont want to tell you who I think you should lynch next because I could be wrong on based on informatin that may develop between now and then and I dont wan the elims to use who I say to determine who to kill... Actually I will tell you in code hehehe @BrightnessRadiant estate @Ecthelion III describe @Arinian pepper @elims filthy ok I'm taking a break now
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