Lord Mistborn Bondbreaker he/him Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I found this WOB on Arcanum. QuestionerIf you were entrusted with a Shard of Adonalsium, which Shard?Brandon SandersonUmmm... Heh heh heh... maybe Ingenuity. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/123/#e3299 so is this an actual shard? Or is this just Brandon making one up for an interview? Edited February 11, 2018 by Lord Mistborn Skybreaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzik Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 We are free to interpret it however we like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) Yeah, here's the Word of Peter/Isaac on the above statement: Quote David J. Foster It sounds like [Brandon] identified a new shard, Ingenuity, in an interview in Bulgaria. Can you verify this? Peter Ahlstrom That is news to me! Maybe [Isaac] can ask him. Isaac Stewart I asked [Brandon]. He said readers can interpret his words how they want. Footnote: The question is referring to this exchange.source Brandon has also given Shard names for things we know don't actually exist (for example, a hypothetical shard for the Alcatraz series would be something like Betrayal) so there's definitely cause to take the statement with a grain of salt. Edited February 11, 2018 by Weltall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzik Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Also paradox ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Brandon has done enough things that we cannot assume a dodged question to have a positive answer (or a negative answer, for that matter). That being said, I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I think a pretty good alternative to ‘Ingenuity’ that more or less embodies the same or at least similar attributes would be ‘Aptitude’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSHtaFARian2.0 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 I've long speculated there'd be a Shard named something like Invention, and since one definition of ingenuity is 'the quality of being cleverly inventive or resourceful; inventiveness', I definitely wouldn't hate it this ended up being canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasper he/him Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Brandon has said that Fabrials are a type of magic. Maybe, they are like hemalurgy and can access that shards power anywhere in the cosmere. They just modify the power of the resident shard and use that to power the device that is tied to Ingenuity. That would explain the scadrian medallions, the Aviar detectors, Rosharian spren fabrials, and possible Nazh's gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Fabrials as we see them on Roshar are a magic system to themselves, and the term "fabrial" is going to branch out to mean magic devices in general, but the medallions are pure Metallic Arts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 I believe the technical term for the kind of thing fabrials are is "magitech". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrann Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 29-7-2018 at 11:12 AM, Fanghur Rahl said: I believe the technical term for the kind of thing fabrials are is "magitech". That's similar to saying investiture is magic. Yes, it's true, but the term encompasses a much wider idea throughout speculative fiction, whereas fabrials (and investiture) are specific to the Cosmere and bound to it's rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/28/2018 at 10:24 PM, ROSHtaFARian2.0 said: I've long speculated there'd be a Shard named something like Invention, and since one definition of ingenuity is 'the quality of being cleverly inventive or resourceful; inventiveness', I definitely wouldn't hate it this ended up being canon. I think there has to be something like Invention or Ingenuity. The Shards are the powers of Creation. There needs to be an impulse or desire to create invent or experience new things if this was the being that created all this life in the Cosmere originally. We've got lots of shards that cover the middle and end of life things grow, stay the same, decline and end. (Cultivation, Preservation, Ruin). We are missing the beginning of the lifecycle, the part that desires novelty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Well, 'ingenuity' and 'invention' are only tangentially related at best. It might be said that the latter involves the application of the former, but it certainly isn't in any way synonymous. That said, I agree with your basic point, and I think that there are probably Shards related to each. Though like I said, I think 'Aptitude' would be a better, more encompassing name for a Shard than 'Ingenuity'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltall Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Child of Hodor said: I think there has to be something like Invention or Ingenuity. The Shards are the powers of Creation. There needs to be an impulse or desire to create invent or experience new things if this was the being that created all this life in the Cosmere originally. This may not be necessary as it could be an inherent aspect of all the Shards. Quote KingSloth Do all the shards have a 'secondary' imperative of some degree, to create? Brandon Sanderson You could say this. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Weltall said: This may not be necessary as it could be an inherent aspect of all the Shards. Well, except maybe for Ruin. Though I suppose technically even Ruin helped to create as well, albeit just so he would have something to destroy soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fanghur Rahl said: Well, 'ingenuity' and 'invention' are only tangentially related at best. It might be said that the latter involves the application of the former, but it certainly isn't in any way synonymous. That said, I agree with your basic point, and I think that there are probably Shards related to each. Though like I said, I think 'Aptitude' would be a better, more encompassing name for a Shard than 'Ingenuity'. I think they are essentially synonyms. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ingenuity Synonyms cleverness, creativeness, creativity,imagination, imaginativeness,ingeniousness, innovativeness, invention,inventiveness, originality ingenuity [in-juh-noo-i-tee, -nyoo-] ExamplesWord Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com noun, plural in·ge·nu·i·ties for 3. the quality of being cleverly inventive or resourceful; inventiveness: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ingenuity?s=t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanghur Rahl he/him Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 I stand corrected. I always thought of ingenuity as just being a synonym of intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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