FeatherWriter she/her Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Still, I can't wait to see Lopen glow to impress girls with while flexing his arms somewhere down the line. Orrrrrrrr... Drehy. It's been confirmed that Drehy's going to get a boyfriend somewhere down the line, and I am totally rooting for it to be Lopen. There was a mini food fight scene in... 41 I think? And I'm cheering for them. It'd be cute. 3
Mr Horrible Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I assume the rate of squires getting spren is much higher than the general populace due to the influence of the KR on their actions. A lot of the men Kaladin commands tend to idolize him, which would lead to them following his ideals, which in turn leads to them being good candidates for honour spren.
Seerow Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 They may have unknowingly been borrowing strength without realizing it. When they carried the bridge, I seem to recall some of them talking about how much lighter it had become. I thought this was foreshadowing of the bridge having been tampered with before it collapsed. Did I read that section wrong? Orrrrrrrr... Drehy. It's been confirmed that Drehy's going to get a boyfriend somewhere down the line, and I am totally rooting for it to be Lopen. There was a mini food fight scene in... 41 I think? And I'm cheering for them. It'd be cute. Please, no. Half of Lopens best lines have been about wanting to impress herdazian women, him turning out to be gay would be really dumb. All about giving Drehy a boyfriend, but at least keep away from characters pretty firmly established as straight. 1
Natans he/him Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Lopen deserved, hard work determination, and "I never gonna let life get me down" are a powerful thing, i wann see him a full Radiant someday. Man some time ago a posted that the bridge 4 harshy life would be a school of radiant I should have made a theory about that =) Anyone also believe Skar and Drehy when they saved Adolin used stormlight ? 1
marianmi Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Anyone also believe Skar and Drehy when they saved Adolin used stormlight ? Yes, I posted that on some other forum yesterday
Falcon777 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 It seems to me, what with the quote about Radiant Squires among the Windrunner order, that some of the other orders will in fact not have squires. If this is so, then those orders will likely have less members, assuming that squires become Radiants more quickly than normal people and that normal people can become squires via association and imitation (notice the similarities to the names of the surges? ). The idea of squires becoming Knights themselves and subsequently training up more squires to become Knights is VERY cool. Hopefully it turns out to be how it works (at least for one order, if not multiple).
Natans he/him Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 It seems to me, what with the quote about Radiant Squires among the Windrunner order, that some of the other orders will in fact not have squires. If this is so, then those orders will likely have less members, assuming that squires become Radiants more quickly than normal people and that normal people can become squires via association and imitation (notice the similarities to the names of the surges? ). The idea of squires becoming Knights themselves and subsequently training up more squires to become Knights is VERY cool. Hopefully it turns out to be how it works (at least for one order, if not multiple). Bondsmith had like 3 members in one of tthe epigraphs, after all, bonding the STORMFATHER aren't for everyone. And i so happy that I called that the vision are Sprenn related, what I would never guess are that he spren are the stormfather=)
Djerf he/him Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 You should look for squires in the first book too. (And I'm not talking about the prelude.) Dalinar when he saved Elhokar during the hunt, this way he wouldn't have to attract spren despise his shardblade. I'm guessing that it was Renarin who was his master knight. What qualifies one to become a Squire Radiant, and in what way do they relate to the Knight Radiants?
Trickonometry Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 You should look for squires in the first book too. (And I'm not talking about the prelude.) It really wouldn't surprise me if Bridge 4 was getting some form of Squire powers in tWoK. So many times the whole crew would come back from a bridge run with few to no injuries. Also, as has been mentioned, I'm pretty sure that we see some Squires in Dalinar's visions.
Releaser Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I seem to remember Teft saying that something didn't hurt as bad as it should, in tWoK, and Skar did fight well during the battle at the tower despite being shot in the foot with an arrow. Maybe this is our first sighting of squires in action. We all want to see the Lopen get a spren cause we know that will be amazing banter. I hope someone going to a signing asks Brandon if Squires can become Radiants, or if once your a Squire then you are bonded to that radiant instead of a spren. Edited March 10, 2014 by Releaser 1
EvilKetchupCow he/him Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Maybe as early as the side carry. More likely that was kaladin pulling the bridge but they did run out in front of the other bridge crews. In a position that should of been much slower
Timemaster11 he/him Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Since most/all of Bridge 4 seems to be in the process of becoming squires, a curious question arises: Can/will Rlain become a squire?
name_here Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 I thought this was foreshadowing of the bridge having been tampered with before it collapsed. Did I read that section wrong? Yup. The bridge collapsed because it had an emergency release lever so you could collapse the bridge if the enemy seized the opposite side and began crossing. Also, I think that was a chull-pulled bridge in any case, not the one they were carrying. 1
Armless writer he/him Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Since most/all of Bridge 4 seems to be in the process of becoming squires, a curious question arises: Can/will Rlain become a squire? Brandon has said before that only humans can surgebind it seems like being a squire is similar. That seems very unlikely.
Seloun Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Brandon has said before that only humans can surgebind it seems like being a squire is similar. That seems very unlikely. Wait, really? That makes some of the Parshendi epigraphs really odd, then - they seem to at least have legends of the possibility of 'merging' surgebinding and voidbinding. 9th and 10th stanza of the Song of Spren: "The spren betrayed us, it’s often felt. / Our minds are too close to their realm / That gives us our forms, but more is then / Demanded by the smartest spren, / We can’t provide what the humans lend, / Though broth are we, their meat is men." "But it is not impossible to blend / Their Surges to ours in the end. / It has been promised and it can come. / Or do we understand the sum? / We questioned not if they can have us then, / But if we dare to have them again." If it's really WoB otherwise, someone's been misleading the Parshendi...
Kurkistan he/him Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Brandon has said before that only humans can surgebind it seems like being a squire is similar. That seems very unlikely. No, actually, he hasn't. He's only said that only humans are KR. A subtle distinction.
Walker Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 No, actually, he hasn't. He's only said that only humans are KR. A subtle distinction. So the interesting question is: does that restriction apply to squires as well? Could Rlain/Shen become one of his squires?
Releaser Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 You should look for squires in the first book too. (And I'm not talking about the prelude.) I dont know if this is a squire find. But I came across this in my re-read before WoR came out. This is from after Dalinar saved Kaladin and his men after they used parshendi bones for the first time in tWoK. "The Shardbearer's honor guard caught up with him. He turned, armor seeming to glow as he raised his Blade in salute of respect toward the bridgemen." That always stuck with me as him glowing. I dont know if it was some of Kaladins Windrunner magic working on those who acted with Honor on a battlefield he was in. Or Dalinar showing his own Surgebinding for the first time. I got my eye out for similar glow bombs as I call them. I seem to remember seeing a few more of those causally dropped in there.
Mysty she/her Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Now that the Stormfather has bonded to Dalinar, do you think he will allow more honor spren over to bond with all the new squires popping up? I know Lopen is stoked to be glowing now, but I don't think he will give up until he can fly too. 1
Grayv he/him Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 It's not flying, it's falling with style. 16
DiamondMind he/him Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I dont know if this is a squire find. But I came across this in my re-read before WoR came out. This is from after Dalinar saved Kaladin and his men after they used parshendi bones for the first time in tWoK. "The Shardbearer's honor guard caught up with him. He turned, armor seeming to glow as he raised his Blade in salute of respect toward the bridgemen." That always stuck with me as him glowing. I dont know if it was some of Kaladins Windrunner magic working on those who acted with Honor on a battlefield he was in. Or Dalinar showing his own Surgebinding for the first time. I got my eye out for similar glow bombs as I call them. I seem to remember seeing a few more of those causally dropped in there. It's definitely Dalinar himself. He also "seemed almost to glow" when catching the chasmfiend's claw to protect Elhokar. 1
Delightful Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) What if the squires are based on the same attribute of connection that Feruchemical duralumin stores? Accidentally down voted this post while trying to upvote. Would anyones care to correct this for me? Thanks and sorry! Edited April 13, 2014 by Delightful
Binnut he/him Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) No, actually, he hasn't. He's only said that only humans are KR. A subtle distinction. I seem to remember a WoB where it was stated that it is in theory possible for a Parshendi to make become a Radiant, but that it it have not happend. I felt that there was a implicit "yet" in that quote. Quotes: Q: How about the other way around? Can a Parshendi bond a KR spren? A: Historically, the Parshendi were not made Knights Radiant, or the parshmen weren't. Q: Can they become squires maybe? A: Historically they did not, but it's not impossible. Edit: What i meant is that by explicitly saying that it did not happen historically he can dissauade us from believing it without actually saying that it cannot happen. Edited April 14, 2014 by Binnut
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