[OB] Rest of the series predictions?

[ICanDream]

What will happen in book four? Who will die? How will book five end? What happened in the past of some of the characters? Will any turn dark or be redeemed? Who will become radiants? Who won’t? 

How will the series end?

Siscuss what you think will happen later on in the series

p.s This is completely unconnected to the main topic, but why are so many people called Ookla?

[Leyrann]

Ookla: 

 

As for what I think will happen, I think that Dalinar will ascend to take up Honor, and later on Odium and maybe also Cultivation. I don't dare go much further than that... Brandon likes his plot twists. I do think Dalinar might take up Honor as early as book 5 already, however.

[fievelgoespostal]

Is it possible for someone to take up a splintered shard?   

[aemetha he/him]

It is very difficult apparently @fievelgoespostal but not impossible.

I could see Adolin dying (or perhaps I want him to die a little bit *shrug*). It would fit the whole love triangle thing as foreshadowing. Adolin dies, Shallan gets bitter and twisted and falls to the dark side and starts wearing a mask to manage her asthma and Kaladin redeems her. Just guessing on that though.

12 hours ago, ICanDream said:

How will the series end?

Oh, I can answer this one. I got an advance copy of book 10 (though I was sleeping at the time and when I woke up I couldn't find it again). Anyway, please refer to my signature.

Edited December 5, 2017 by aemetha

[Subvisual Haze]

A mysterious lawman from an unknown location called "The Roughs" appears on Roshar to educate Nale and the wayward Skybreakers on what it truly means to be a lawman.  Another mysterious individual with a fondness for hats ascends to the 5th Ideal of the Lightweavers within a single day, baffling the entire collective of Cryptics with his impressive knowledge of lies and truths.

[Wotsummary]

Jasnah is going to order shallans execution. (Too many comments about the threat to a dynasty coming from within, shallan now working for the ghostbloods)

[Bacon]

The radiants find the dawnshards and kill Odium. Kaladin becomes Honor, Moash becomes Odium, they both kill each other and Shallan rushes in, takes up both and becomes Sarcasm.

/Cosmere

Edited December 5, 2017 by Bacon

[Ammanas]

Dalinor realizes a deeper meaning of "Unite Them" and undergoes a quest to unite all of Adolnalsium's shards. 

[Foxx she/her]

Rocks fall. Everybody dies.

(Sorry, couldn't help myself.)

I honestly have no idea and fear trying because Sanderson will prove me wrong in embarrassing and pathetic ways.

Mayhaps, Odium divides by zero, hysteria ensues. 

I'd like to see Wit reunited with his flute. He seems genuinely torn up about it. And I want to see Jasnah be a boss Queen.

[Mulk he/him]

• At least one of the Kholin brothers dies.
• Sja-Anat's betrayal will be forced into the open and she is eventually destroyed by Odium; after she has gifted the KR with nine corrupted Nahel spren (so eight more after Glys) to help counterbalance Odium's influence with the unmade.
• Kaladin will eventually fight Moash in the contest of champions, winning a tight battle in which he swears the fifth ideal.
• Dalinar takes up Honor's place in full by the end of the front five as Odium is sent back to Braize for a time. 
• Kaladin will end the series unmarried and uninvolved romantically. 
• Shallan will still be married if Adolin survives; she will have mostly resolved her identity issues if he lives. If he dies...I see her drifting off into an uncomfortable limbo
• Azure and Zahel will meet up and finally agree to a long term relationship
• Nightblood will kill either Szeth or Lift (or both) and experience a crisis of self; Zahel will regain possession of his "friend" afterwards
• Jasnah will become the greatest ruler in the history of Alethkar, having retaken Kholinar and established an equitable peace with the Listener people who survived
• Jasnah will also declare that she will hand over the rulership of Alethkar once Elhokar's son is of age
• The world will not fully be at peace, as the Everstorm will continually attempt to return the Fused, but the surviving Listeners will have mostly learned from Venli how to bond lesser spren to avoid being taken against their will
• Many of the remaining Heralds will have died by the time the final battles happen, in the same way that Jezrien did.
• Ishar and Nale will both have gone over to Odium, but will have been betrayed by Odium to a death like Jezrien's to try to force the Oathpact to be over.
• Taln will have recovered his wits by the the end, either from healing or sheer Awesomeness. He will agree to go back to Damnation for as long as he can handle it one final time.  Ash will be the one to send him back and then will send herself back as well.  Together they will hold for fifteen years.
• Taravangian's work with the Diagram will have been shown to be a massive work of disinformation on Cultivation's part to mislead both Mr T and Odium into thinking that it serves Odium's interest when in reality it's shaping what T does in such a way that he inadvertently causes Odium's stratagems to fail.
• Wit/Hoid will be a knight of the Third Ideal by the end of the front five, but will once again be able to exit the system once Kaladin wins.

When the back five starts, Jasnah is about to hand over the king/queenship to Elhokar's son.  Wit will return because of his fortune/luck sense.  Odium is back and this time manages to take out Cultivation, but Dalinar takes up Cultivation before it can be splintered and then uses their combined strength to overcome Odium, taking his shard as well.  The surgebinding wars occurring around this destroy Roshar not in totality, but in a way that forces the inhabitants to leave.  The remaining Heralds are released from the Oathpact.  Lift becomes the new self-proclaimed Queen of Awesomeness and Feasting after having distracted Odium's attention (leading to his death) with a well timed comment about his butt and stabbing him with a Shardfork.

This is all totally true and awesome.

[Yezrien]

Humans will leave Roshar for the Singers, and Dalinar will reforge their original homeworld with his stone-healing powers.

[kenod]

Szeth and Nightblood will meet Vasher, whereupon Vasher will be outed as a worldhopper, and Vasher's reaction will be "Give me my sword back, son".

[What's a Seawolf?]

Cosmere spoilers

Spoiler

Vasher uses his Divine Breath to awaken a cupcake.  Lift eats said cupcake.  

Lift becomes Returned Awakener Edgedancer Lift wielding Nightblood.

 

Worldhopping Wayne and MeLaan chat in a corner with You-Know-Who and reminisce about Scadrial and when they actually had bad guys to fight.

 

Edited December 5, 2017 by What's a Seawolf?
Clarification

[Leuthie]

The 4th book will revolve around the Parshmen discovering that, while humans are the invaders, the death and destruction on Roshar was caused by them and their ties to Odium.  They and the KR will discover that the Recreance was a joint venture with the Parshmen of the time agreeing to leave their forms if the humans leave their spren bonds.  Humans didn't enslave them, they agreed to enslavement by humans to stop the cycle of fighting that Odium and his Unmade had locked them into.

However, the KR fight with each other, the Heralds die, replaced by Odium chosen, entire human nations side with Odium, the Fused learn how to take over human bodies, etc.

Moash and Kaladin clash at the end of the book as Odium's and Dalinar's champions.  Moash loses, but Odium has some contingency and the fight makes everything worse.

Vasher/Zahel finds Szeth, Vivenna/Azure find them, too.  Nightblood says funny things not knowing they're funny. Szeth misunderstands.  

 

The Ghostbloods come out of hiding, side with Dalinar.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Leuthie

[Who Sharded?]

What do you guys think about the embossed glyphs and colors of each hardback?  So far we've gotten the glyphs and colors related to the corresponding flashback character.  So Windrunners for TWoK, Lightweavers for WoR, and Bondsmiths for OB.

If Brandon's plans for the future 7 books hold true, we have Eshonai (?), Szeth (Skybreakers), Lift (Edgedancers), Jasnah (Elsecallers), Renarin (Truthwatchers), Taln (Stonewards), Shalash (also Shash/Lightweavers)?

So we're missing Dustbringers and Willshapers.  I really want each of the 10 to be represented on the covers, but Ash might throw a wrench in all of it.  Maybe she'll join the KR order of either Dustbringers or Willshapers.  And Eshonai if she comes back will join the other.

I finished the book not too long ago so I'm behind on what fans have already speculated.

[Subvisual Haze]

It turns out "Shallan Davar" is actually a deep cover avatar of Bavadin.  Bavadin's illusionary magic loopiness has entered an advanced phase where even her avatar creations start to manifest their own avatar creations.  "Shallan" was a sleeper identity for Bavadin to influence the clash of shards on Roshar.

[kenod]

4 hours ago, Who Sharded? said:

What do you guys think about the embossed glyphs and colors of each hardback?  So far we've gotten the glyphs and colors related to the corresponding flashback character.  So Windrunners for TWoK, Lightweavers for WoR, and Bondsmiths for OB.

If Brandon's plans for the future 7 books hold true, we have Eshonai (?), Szeth (Skybreakers), Lift (Edgedancers), Jasnah (Elsecallers), Renarin (Truthwatchers), Taln (Stonewards), Shalash (also Shash/Lightweavers)?

So we're missing Dustbringers and Willshapers.  I really want each of the 10 to be represented on the covers, but Ash might throw a wrench in all of it.  Maybe she'll join the KR order of either Dustbringers or Willshapers.  And Eshonai if she comes back will join the other.

I finished the book not too long ago so I'm behind on what fans have already speculated.

Eshonai's spren has passed on to Venli, so it's likely that the next book will be the Willshaper book, with Venli as primary Willshaper.
Edit:
Or Dustbringer.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Ookla the Foxed

[Subvisual Haze]

Brandon feels overly restricted by the limited potential of "print" as a storytelling medium, presents the 7th Volume of the Stormlight Archive entirely via interpretive dance.

[AllomancerSam]

• I don't know why or how, but some, maybe all of our main Radiants will die at the end of 5, spend the 10-15 year break between 5&6 on Braize, returning at the start of 6. (I'm thinking definitely Kaladin and one of our Heralds (Ash or Taln), probably Shallan, Lift, and Renarin, possibly Jasnah and Dalinar, and wherever Dalinar ends up is where Szeth will be).
• The now time honored tradition of Radiants losing siblings will continue. Sorry Adolin. (but seriously we're up to five (5!) now, this is a pattern).
• No textual support, but I feel like Shalash will fill the spot of Dustbringer, bringing our ten main characters to one from each order.
• The front five's main goal is probably stopping the desolations and defeating the Fused/Voidbringers in general, the back five will see more of a team up between humans/Parshendi to destroy Odium once and for all.
• The Oathpact will be fulfilled, and the remaining Heralds will be allowed to die one final time.
• Kaladin and Moash will face off, and part of Kaladin's arc with that will be accepting that he cannot save him from himself, or that killing him would in some way be saving him from himself. Either way Moash is going to die.

My experience with Brandon's writing is that for every 1 plot twist I see coming, there are at least 2-3 more that completely blindside me, so if any of these are right I'll be shocked.

[Subvisual Haze]

Kelsier crosses off another 2 entries on his "gods punched" bucket list.

[The Gecko he/him]

1 hour ago, Subvisual Haze said:

Kelsier crosses off another 2 entries on his "gods punched" bucket list.

Merely 2? Of course not! He gets Odium, Cultivation, Honor 2.0 as well as Trell and Autonomy if those two are different as well as one other. Perhaps Endowment. Later he will help someone reforge Devotion and Dominion and get them too

[Farnsworth]

Lift eats Jasnah’s breakfast

[Leyrann]

On 5-12-2017 at 7:39 PM, Who Sharded? said:

What do you guys think about the embossed glyphs and colors of each hardback?  So far we've gotten the glyphs and colors related to the corresponding flashback character.  So Windrunners for TWoK, Lightweavers for WoR, and Bondsmiths for OB.

If Brandon's plans for the future 7 books hold true, we have Eshonai (?), Szeth (Skybreakers), Lift (Edgedancers), Jasnah (Elsecallers), Renarin (Truthwatchers), Taln (Stonewards), Shalash (also Shash/Lightweavers)?

So we're missing Dustbringers and Willshapers.  I really want each of the 10 to be represented on the covers, but Ash might throw a wrench in all of it.  Maybe she'll join the KR order of either Dustbringers or Willshapers.  And Eshonai if she comes back will join the other.

I finished the book not too long ago so I'm behind on what fans have already speculated.

Popular opinion seems to be that Shalash might join the Dustbringers, and Eshonai was theorized earlier already to be a Willshaper, though most people believe Venli got her spren instead, making Venli a Willshaper.

[eshu]

On 12/5/2017 at 6:10 PM, Leuthie said:

Humans didn't enslave them, they agreed to enslavement by humans to stop the cycle of fighting that Odium and his Unmade had locked them into.

You had me till this part, though I get what you're going/hoping for with this. Having them sacrifice there freedom as a type of self-imposed act of reparations which hopefully leads to a greater examination about post-war reconciliation. Chances are such a thematic exploration would focus on the importance of forgiveness in breaking cycles of hate, since we are looking at how the ramifications of such a pact has led to the current strife. However, the parshendi taking that burden would piss me off as I'd fear it would be written as some form of objective justice. 

[Leuthie]

5 hours ago, eshu said:

You had me till this part, though I get what you're going/hoping for with this. Having them sacrifice there freedom as a type of self-imposed act of reparations which hopefully leads to a greater examination about post-war reconciliation. Chances are such a thematic exploration would focus on the importance of forgiveness in breaking cycles of hate, since we are looking at how the ramifications of such a pact has led to the current strife. However, the parshendi taking that burden would piss me off as I'd fear it would be written as some form of objective justice. 

I've changed my thoughts to it being an accidental consequence of some other action, with putting the Parshmen to work being the preferable response to simple letting them wander to their inevitable deaths.

However, the mutual sacrifice of spren and form to fight a like enemy with the unintended consequence of slaveform Parshmen has a certain lopsided symmetry to it.