Chinsukolo Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I haven't finished OB yet - and I haven't read this forum yet because of it. Just wanted to come here and say: I think Azure is Vivienna I'll go away now and come back when I finish the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not a Voidbringer Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 That is currently the general consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinsukolo Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Ok - I'm now into part 4. This is even more obvious now. That's what I get for posting in excitement when she used a color for a curse (crimson). After using the cloack as a shield in a fight, and hair color change while in CR, and referring to Vasher as her sword master I think's pretty set obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dopey Spren he/him Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 I had a suspicion she was Vivenna as well. With the facts you just posted above, I think that makes it a solid theory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Azure is Vivenna, Vivenna is May Aladar, May Aladar is Chana, Chana is Liss and everyone is an invested black hole. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dopey Spren he/him Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ookla the Toasted said: Azure is Vivenna, Vivenna is May Aladar, May Aladar is Chana, Chana is Liss and everyone is an invested black hole. That... is a plot twist and a half... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak he/him Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 It's not on-screen, but later she plays Tarachin with the heads of the Fused who came after her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHoliday he/him Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Ookla the Toasted said: Azure is Vivenna, Vivenna is May Aladar, May Aladar is Chana, Chana is Liss and everyone is an invested black hole. There isn't enough tinfoil in the Cosmere.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyWordsmith Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Ookla the Toasted said: Azure is Vivenna, Vivenna is May Aladar, May Aladar is Chana, Chana is Liss and everyone is an invested black hole. Is it terribly self-absorbed for me to be sad that that thread went nowhere? If that is what you're referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 7 hours ago, FuzzyWordsmith said: Is it terribly self-absorbed for me to be sad that that thread went nowhere? If that is what you're referring to. Nope, I refer to an old joke by Brandons assistant Peter, who said that Vivenna was an invested black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFilthyCasual Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 20 hours ago, Chinsukolo said: she used a color for a curse (crimson). Yea that was the moment for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpoly Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I don't see how there's doubt on this one. Let me list off the hints. 1) explicitly says not from Roshar 2) Her hair faded to grey and then back again in shadesmar 3) scars seems faded in shadesmar 4) trained by Zahel who is likely Vasher (nightblood says vasher is training swordsmanship currently) 5) has a sword that seems to be a new and improved nightblood (hinted by shardblade like qualities, doesn't have a spren, leaves victims grey, and has some sort of sentience) 6) says that her purpose on Roshar is to recover nightblood 7) says she gave up royal position and says had a history of being too open with strangers (trusting denth) 8) requests bales of cloth to be cut into certain shapes on honorspren ship. I may have missed some but i think it's pretty clear that Azure is Vivenna. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeros Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 My fave from Warbreaker. Never expected her to show up asthis boss was woman! And with an Awakened female sword no less, lol. I'll have more to say about her later though I wonder how non Warbreaker readers reacted to her?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolven he/him Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I spotted her as Vivenna as well, and I don't usually make those kinds of connections. I was a little surprised that the other characters didn't have more to ask her about being a world hopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJtheWiz Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wolven said: I spotted her as Vivenna as well, and I don't usually make those kinds of connections. I was a little surprised that the other characters didn't have more to ask her about being a world hopper. I know, right? I was at least hoping that Shallan would ask Azure/Vivenna something about being a worldhopper so we could gain more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storming Radiant he/him Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 12 hours ago, zpoly said: I don't see how there's doubt on this one. Let me list off the hints. 1) explicitly says not from Roshar 2) Her hair faded to grey and then back again in shadesmar 3) scars seems faded in shadesmar 4) trained by Zahel who is likely Vasher (nightblood says vasher is training swordsmanship currently) 5) has a sword that seems to be a new and improved nightblood (hinted by shardblade like qualities, doesn't have a spren, leaves victims grey, and has some sort of sentience) 6) says that her purpose on Roshar is to recover nightblood 7) says she gave up royal position and says had a history of being too open with strangers (trusting denth) 8) requests bales of cloth to be cut into certain shapes on honorspren ship. I may have missed some but i think it's pretty clear that Azure is Vivenna. There is also a scene where she is surprised that Shallan wants to wear a dress instead of trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 WoB confirmed! Yay. For me, I figured it out the moment she said, “like white on black.” Zahel likes that phrase too... I think that was actually the first time Kal sees her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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