MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Just throwing this out there, there should totally be a 17th Shard app. I'm sure there are some Sharder developers out there who could do this. What do you guys think?
Kaymyth she/her Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 I promise you, this is not nearly as easy as people think it is. The subject has also been discussed at length and in great detail in similar threads. 1
Chaos he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 I will link you to an extensive comment of mine on this matter: The long and short of it is that it's a lot of development effort (especially to keep up with new mobile versions) that we don't have time for. If there was an app, then that would delay IPS software updates even more for testing to make sure nothing breaks. This is to say nothing about the amount of time that would be spent on the app itself, which would be extensive. (We already have a software project, the new WoB Archive, and this takes a lot of time.) Additionally, I'm still confused as to what the real gains are by having an app and spending that time doing that. The mobile site is very, very good and I use it for most things, including the backend to do administration. Perhaps you can explain to me a use for an app that cannot be served with the mobile site? The only real thing is mobile push notifications, which you could just as easily get with email notifications. An app would just be a slightly crappier wrapper for the forum and would interact the same. I don't understand why that's preferable to opening the mobile site. 3
MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kaymyth said: I promise you, this is not nearly as easy as people think it is. The subject has also been discussed at length and in great detail in similar threads. I totally understand/believe you. Just wondering what people would think about this. 5 minutes ago, Chaos said: Additionally, I'm still confused as to what the real gains are by having an app and spending that time doing that. The mobile site is very, very good and I use it for most things, including the backend to do administration. Perhaps you can explain to me a use for an app that cannot be served with the mobile site? The only real thing is mobile push notifications, which you could just as easily get with email notifications. An app would just be a slightly crappier wrapper for the forum and would interact the same. I don't understand why that's preferable to opening the mobile site. Don't worry, I love the site, and it's actually a pretty dang amazing site! Like I said above, I was just wondering what you guys would think about it. 1
Kaymyth she/her Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, MasterJack said: I totally understand/believe you. Just wondering what people would think about this. Don't worry, I love the site, and it's actually a pretty dang amazing site! Like I said above, I was just wondering what you guys would think about it. Best thing to do, then, is scroll back a page or two on this board. You should be able to find the previous discussion pretty easily.
Chaos he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Well, I'm more wondering what makes you ask for an app? What's the use case?
MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, Kaymyth said: Best thing to do, then, is scroll back a page or two on this board. You should be able to find the previous discussion pretty easily. Thanks! 32 minutes ago, Chaos said: Well, I'm more wondering what makes you ask for an app? What's the use case? I don't honestly know. Just a lot of websites have apps (or in some cases a lot of apps have websites) and many people are very opinionated about which is better, the app or the website. Another thing is just that you could have notifications on your phone through the app, but I suppose having email notification on produces almost the same effect. I totally agree with you that if there was an app, it would have to add something to the experience, not just be a website duplicate.
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Chaos said: What's the use case? Ads! Money! Everyone is doing it!
Aeonax Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 If money was an incentive then the forum would probably have ads by now.
Chaos he/him Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 We want good ads. Takes time, and there's so much to do. Ads wouldn't offset the enormous cost of making an app. It's a losing venture.
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 On 19 oktober 2017 at 5:37 PM, Chaos said: We want good ads. Can we have ads for Brandons books? Or are we already doing that, since the site is dedicated to them? 1
Chaos he/him Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Toaster Retribution said: Can we have ads for Brandons books? Or are we already doing that, since the site is dedicated to them? There will be something along those lines yes Stay tuned. 1
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 0:55 PM, Chaos said: What's the use case? I found your use case: "Hey Arcanum, find me all the WoBs with "dustbringers" in them." Voice controlled WoB searches. 3
Mestiv he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, CaptainRyan said: I found your use case: "Hey Arcanum, find me all the WoBs with "dustbringers" in them." Voice controlled WoB searches. Sorry, that's not gonna happen but feel free to use voice typing on your phone to fill in the search box on the website
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mestiv said: Sorry, that's not gonna happen but feel free to use voice typing on your phone to fill in the search box on the website You could write a skill for Microsoft's new Invoke speaker that is powered by Cortana to hook into the Arcanum! disclaimer: I work on the Cortana team and may be biased about this
Mestiv he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, CaptainRyan said: You could write a skill for Microsoft's new Invoke speaker that is powered by Cortana to hook into the Arcanum! disclaimer: I work on the Cortana team and may be biased about this Once we go open source, you'll be able to do it yourself
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Mestiv said: Once we go open source, you'll be able to do it yourself Uhhh, I gotta pee on her. I mean, I gotta pee. *knock knock* Pee time. disclaimer: I promise I'm not creepy! It is a movie quote!
Mestiv he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, CaptainRyan said: Uhhh, I gotta pee on her. I mean, I gotta pee. *knock knock* Pee time. disclaimer: I promise I'm not creepy! It is a movie quote! I'm in lesbians with this movie! 1
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Mestiv said: I'm in lesbians with this movie! I'm in lesbians with you for writing this!
Ethan_sedai he/him Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I personally would like this, because I use a shared phone, and my parents took off safari for security reasons, so an app would be nice, because I could use it.
Kaymyth she/her Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 7:28 PM, ethan_sedai said: I personally would like this, because I use a shared phone, and my parents took off safari for security reasons, so an app would be nice, because I could use it. If you miss us so badly, perhaps you could try Discord? It's not the same as the forums, but it would get you a nice Sharder fix without needing a browser.
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