Erunion he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Where is Zahel? Where is he? Where is Warbreaker the Peaceful? Where is Vasher? Where is (insert other name here)? Critically, what is he up to and what role will he play? He should be in Urithiru right now, and he's in possession of a lot of useful intel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace21 he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 He's probably just around doing Ardent stuff. We know Dalinar's warcamp moved to Urithiru and the warcamp is Zahel's last known location. I dont think he has much that much useful intel to be honest. He is not old enough to have experienced surge usage or a desolation when he last visited Roshar so the most he could share would be world hopping. Not much use in their present situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 This doesn't answer but is relevant Quote QUESTION Third, my written question was "How will the everstorm affect Vasher?" BRANDON SANDERSON He wrote: "Vasher will probably just hide, but it signals something bad for him..." Then he said out loud (paraphrasing) that we will find out what this means in a LONG time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 My guess is it allows Odium to detect other sources of Investiture, and senswing Vasher isn't a native, would have Nalthis in his sights next; alternatively, If the flavour/nature of Investiture has any effect on him as he consumes it, it's possible he may go full on zombie rage mode to reference iZombie, or it will definitely alter his personality somewhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Another thing that could happen is forced transformation. As the Everstorm is forcing void forms on the listeners it encounters (though Rlain resisted, so I do think there needs to be an aspect of consent, or at least willingness for the transformation to happen), it is possible that Zahel who is returned and can change his form/appearance, may be at risk from the storm. How would people react if the cranky old shardblade training radiant suddenly turned into a 7-foot tall, muscly god figure that warped colours around him? Or turned him into something else. A lynch mob would likely form up right quick. So I buy Zahel hiding during the storm until it passes, each time it passes. And that is not even worst case scenario - what if he gets forcefully bound to an odiumspren as an interaction between the storm and his transformative nature? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salkara Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 55 minutes ago, Stark said: How would people react if the cranky old shardblade training radiant suddenly turned into a 7-foot tall, muscly god figure that warped colours around him? Or turned him into something else. A lynch mob would likely form up right quick. I think a group yelling, "Praise the Herald who hid among the ardentia!" is a lot more likely than a lynch mob. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Salkara said: I think a group yelling, "Praise the Herald who hid among the ardentia!" is a lot more likely than a lynch mob. I think you might be right. Right up to the point where Zahel is Zahel and grumps at everyone. Still not the best for someone who is likely trying to be incognito while hunting for Nightblood and dodging all the other Worldhoppers and secret societies lurking everywhere in those camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning he/him Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Extesian said: This doesn't answer but is relevant That was my question! (Meaning: Literally, I was the one who asked Brandon that question.) I was (and still am) very interested in what will happen to Vasher, and my impression after talking with Brandon was that we would hear about him in this book, but maybe that was a mistaken impression. Edited September 21, 2017 by Lightning 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksiel Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'd say Zahel is with Dalinar's ardents as he was before. Do you have any reason to think otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erunion he/him Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I don't - mostly I want to see how he reacts to the current turn of events! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 It would have been quite hilarious if Zahel had married Dalinar and Navani instead of the Stormfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowYourMuse she/her Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Long time could mean last five books, or warbreaker 2, or later than that. Also wondering what effect the everstorm, or voidspren will or could have on nightblood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazBolt Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think this is a bit of a stretch to think that the Everstorm would have any effect on Zahel/Vasher. There is no precedent to think that anything other than the parshmen bond to spren the way they do and would thereby be effected by the Everstorm. As the WoB says, it "signals something bad for him", which I take to mean he understands that that the Shard of Evil is coming closer to being released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightedbishop he/him Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Something very bad for Vasher...Perhaps something relating to Nightblood? Vasher has a lot of bad history around the sword. He co-created it with good intentions. Nightblood would have been a huge achievement. Then he sees Nightblood used in the Manywar and is horrified. He realizes what he has done. Compounding his horror, he has to kill someone he cares about deeply to prevent the method of Nightblood’s creation from getting out. Roshier artificers are making advancements with fabrial technology. Nightblood is an incredibly dangerous weapon, in the wrong hands. Odium might desire more such weapons. With the sword on Roshier, Odium now more connected to Roshier and Nightblood becoming involved in events, perhaps Vasher’s great fear will be realized- someone will reverse engineer an equivalent to Nightblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necessary Eagle she/her Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/24/2017 at 0:45 PM, ChazBolt said: I think this is a bit of a stretch to think that the Everstorm would have any effect on Zahel/Vasher. There is no precedent to think that anything other than the parshmen bond to spren the way they do and would thereby be effected by the Everstorm. As the WoB says, it "signals something bad for him", which I take to mean he understands that that the Shard of Evil is coming closer to being released. But that's something we understand right now. If we have to wait a LONG time to find out, I think it's something more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmosiman Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I would guess that the grumpy immortal swordmaster is probably right where we last saw him, in his hammock on the roof. I don't think Vasher would cut his vacation short just because the world started to end. It's still the Weeping, and he's still on vacation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahak he/him Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 23/09/2017 at 1:29 PM, Rider of Storms said: It would have been quite hilarious if Zahel had married Dalinar and Navani instead of the Stormfather. I wasn't aware Zahel had married the Stormfather. Plus I'm not sure the Alethi are up for polyandry. It would provide that gay relationship that Sanderson has suggested is going on in the background in theStormlight Archive though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heynongman Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 The new storm not containing stormlight could be the reason. I imagine it will be harder to come by unless he gets it from some other source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahak he/him Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 11:54 PM, Heynongman said: The new storm not containing stormlight could be the reason. I imagine it will be harder to come by unless he gets it from some other source. But the unscheduled Highstorm did contain stormlight so I doubt there is going to be less of it. I'm wondering about the way it unlocked the parshman's ability to form change, Zahel does have certain metaphysical issues due to being returned beyond the need for investature that the Everstorm could have effected like for example binding him to the Oathpact as an eleventh Herald. Or he could have sucked down Odium investature and followed Marsh and Eshonai into involuntary minionhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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