Calderis he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: What? There is a Prologue to tWoK that is Szeth. The scene with Kalak and Jezrien is before that and labeled as "A Prelude to the Stormlight Archive" It is physically in tWoK because it's the first book in the series, but for the purposes of finding the Heralds I don't think it counts as being a part of tWoK. Is what I mean clearer now?
Nathrangking he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Personally I think that Brandon can be more subtle than just throwing a cameo in and making it obvious tat something is afoot. To quote Freud really badly sometimes a beggar is just a beggar.
+Wax he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 What about the lady who writes on the walls but is locked in a room by the ardents in the shattered plains? Any importance to her?
Emerald101 he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Quote "There is a very interesting woman four doors down.She appears to be rubbing excrement on the wall." "Ew." Shallan thought she could smell it. "Patterns . . ." he said as they walked. "I did not get a good look at what she was writing, but it seemed very interesting. I think I shall go and - " "No," Shallan whispered, "stay with me." (WoR pg. 762) There's all we know. Pattern's interest might indicate that something interesting is going on, but I don't think we have enough info to do much about it. 1
Calderis he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, Emerald101 said: There's all we know. Pattern's interest might indicate that something interesting is going on, but I don't think we have enough info to do much about it. Considering many of the things that Pattern finds interesting, I'm not sure that really offers any weight...
Nathrangking he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Yeah well his search for truth/ lies makes the entirety of the cosmere even the crazy woman in the asylum a point of his curiosity. It says very about whether or not we the readers should care.
Weltall Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Emerald101 said: There's all we know. Pattern's interest might indicate that something interesting is going on, but I don't think we have enough info to do much about it. Pattern also finds the human excretory system fascinating (cue Shallan's 'we are not having this conversation' moment) so his interest could have to do with what she was writing, what she was writing with or just a fascination with madness generally. Might be something to file away for future reference but it could just as easily be a bit of narrative fluff.
Nathrangking he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 @Weltall Looks like it may be fluff what a pity if only he had expanded it there was much potential in that sequence.
Krandacth Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, axcellence said: What about the lady who writes on the walls but is locked in a room by the ardents in the shattered plains? Any importance to her? I've always suspected that whatever is going on with her is related to Taravangian's "day of brilliance", in which he too spent a lot of time raving and writing interesting and convoluted patterns on the wall in a language no-one understood (i.e.apparent gibberish). Combined with my theory that his "day of brilliance" was in fact him acting as a conduit for Cultivation (and maybe some Odium), this means the woman could have been channeling a Shard (which would likely be very interesting to Pattern). Edited August 1, 2017 by Krandacth 1
Nathrangking he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 The only problem is that we know that the days of brilliance are caused by Taravangian's boon which he for from the Nightwatcher so unless she went to the Nightwatcher that wouldn't work.
+Wax he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Krandacth said: I've always suspected that whatever is going on with her is related to Taravangian's "day of brilliance", in which he too spent a lot of time raving and writing interesting and convoluted patterns on the wall in a language no-one understood (i.e.apparent gibberish). Combined with my theory that his "day of brilliance" was in fact him acting as a conduit for Cultivation (and maybe some Odium), this means the woman could have been channeling a Shard (which would likely be very interesting to Pattern). I was writing in jest (17th Shard doesn't like iphone emojis so it left the out). Who knows if Brandon was writing in jest or if that lady was a truthwatcher writing on walls. But she was writing using excrement.
Nathrangking he/him Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Truthwatcher that is an interesting possibility.
Emerald101 he/him Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 The sort of things we see Renarin doing could certainly be enough to have someone committed . . .
Calderis he/him Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Nathrangking said: The only problem is that we know that the days of brilliance are caused by Taravangian's boon which he for from the Nightwatcher so unless she went to the Nightwatcher that wouldn't work. This assumes that the Nightwatcher would be the only way to achieve what Taravangian did. With the way we've seen the Cosmere work, there's probably more than one way to achieve anything. She's probably just mentally ill.
king of nowhere Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) but she's also interesting. I mean, she's writing. if they locked you up thinking you mad, and you had this important message you'd absolutely have to rely, then writing it everywhere with everything at hand is the common procedure. Thematically, one uses his own blood (cfr, among others, the first assassin's creed) to reinforce to the story (and to the reader, who by that time still doesn't understand the message) that the message is important, so important that people are willing to die just for a fleeting chance at passing it. I'd say the woman in the prison is smarter than that: she's not killing herself to pass the message. On the other hand, writing in blood strongly reinforces your credibility, while writing in excrement does the opposite. So maybe not that smart after all. Anyway, we can expand the cosmere-wide law: not only you can't tust the beggars, you also can't trust the mentally unbalanced. they are probably magic users of some kind. When someone is BOTH mad and beggar, there is a greater than 50% chance he's actually Hoid. In fact, I'm going to add it to my signature I wonder if some genre-savy character will think to storm all the alleys and sanatoriums to find the worldhoppers. Just go in and kill everybody, those that won't die are worldhoppers. Or protoradiants. Or mistborn urchins. Or escaped kidnapped princesses. Regardless, kill enough destitutes and you'll find the plot-relevant characters. Edited August 2, 2017 by king of nowhere
Calderis he/him Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, king of nowhere said: Regardless, kill enough destitutes and you'll find the plot-relevant characters I don't think worldhopper and immortal are even remotely synonymous.
king of nowhere Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Just now, Calderis said: I don't think worldhopper and immortal are even remotely synonymous. You merely have to kill them in ways that can be survived easily with investiture, like a knife through the gut. In the worst case, you'd at least rid yourself of some relevant characters who were going to be in your hairs eventually
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