[OB] on gavilar confirmed son of honor

[Calderis he/him]

5 minutes ago, Mason Wheeler said:

Sure, I definitely understand all that.  I don't think she's evil or anything; I think she's tragic, in the classical Greek sense.  She's caught up in things beyond her control, and the Ghostbloods are going to try to use her for evil.  I'm just remembering this:

With Szeth's recent developments, it seems like Shallan is the best candidate for the role of the destroyer.

That passage is written by, and from the perspective of, the Sleepless. Shallan is not the one In a position to be a threat to the Dysian Aimians. The most likely there at this point is either Dalinar, with command of the Alethi armies, or Szeth via Nightblood. 

Furthermore, the Ghostbloods are obviously not stellar people morally, but we know nothing of their goals at all. 

[Pattern he/him]

On 25.8.2017 at 8:12 PM, ChazBolt said:

Heres my problem with this though. Why was the Stormfather already sending him visions then?

The spren feel the coming of a new desolation, probably because Taln starts to crack. The Thrill has been active since Dalinar's youth at least, so the Unmade where stirring for a while. So the Stormfather - being a specific spren - should also be able to sense the advance of a desolation and he should also be able to see Odiums influence on Roshar rising again. Kaladin's dreams or visions during Highstorms, where he flies with the storm over Roshar and sees wars and fighting everywhere, I take as an indication that also the Stormfather senses and sees those things and his impressions are somehow transferred to Kaladin.

As far as I know, we don't know how many people receive visions from the Stormfather, either. The fact that Dalinar's visions started after Gavilar's had ended (with his death) does not mean that nobody else received the visions, too. Perhaps we will hear in some Interlude about a farmer living in distant Iri having bad dreams about the past featuring glowing knights with fancy abilities. And the order to Unite them interpreted as the need to put his herds of chulls together.

The purpose of the visions is clearly to prepare humanity for the desolation. Before the last desolations the Heralds were there to prepare and teach humanity stuff necessary to fight the voidbringers, sometimes (or most times?) finding humans at a degraded, nearly stone age tech standard (need to teach bronze skills, etc.). With the Heralds in strike, Tanavast would have seen the need of a backup plan- therefore the visions sent by Honor's spren as soon as the next desolation is coming.

On 26.8.2017 at 4:58 AM, Calderis said:

That passage is written by, and from the perspective of, the Sleepless.

Do we know now that the us refers to the Sleepless, or is it just assumption? (I lost track of that question a while ago.)

Edited August 27, 2017 by Pattern

[Calderis he/him]

10 minutes ago, Pattern said:

Do we know now that the us refers to the Sleepless, or is it just assumption? (I lost track of that question a while ago.)

It's an assumption, but in the context it fits. The "we" in "There are four who we watch" is clearly about the Sleepless. 

12 minutes ago, Pattern said:

Perhaps we will hear in some Interlude about a farmer living in distant Iri having bad dreams about the past featuring glowing knights with fancy abilities. And the order to Unite them interpreted as the need to put his herds of chulls together.

As for this, we have a death rattle from a potter who had highstorm dreams. 

TWoK Ch. 66 epigraph. 

Quote

“That chanting, that singing, those rasping voices.”

—Kaktach 1173, 16 seconds pre-death. A middle-aged potter. Reported seeing strange dreams during highstorms during the last two years.

 

[Amanuensis he/him]

1 hour ago, Calderis said:

 

As for this, we have a death rattle from a potter who had highstorm dreams. 

I wonder what made him Bondsmith material. Had an obsession with gluing broken pots back together?

[WhiteLeeopard she/her]

3 hours ago, Pattern said:

With the Heralds in strike

Upvote just for this phrase, .