Awkward Love Triangle

[Tesh]

My friend who finished reading the Stormlight Archives before me told me about this when she finished WoR and I was really close to finishing WoK. Now I am done with both, and I love her idea. It makes perfect since. In Oathbringer, there will almost definitely be an awkward love triangle between Adolin, Shallan, and Kaladin. When Kaladin and Shallan were in the chasms together for three days, they goy to know each other. And Shallan and Adolin, well, let's just say it was love at first sight. Sure, Kaladin are friends by the end of the book, but that would make it even more awkward. That is for the love triangle part. We were thinking, who would Shallan go for? Then I thought, first, maybe Renarin! My second thought was that it didn't make any scence (I can't spell) but it would make a great plot twist. My friend said that her friend (one I am not on speaking terms with) said that maybe Shaladin and they will adopt Lift! Again, no scence but awesome.

But if Renarin joined the Love Triangle, would that make it a love SQUARE?

Edited June 12, 2017 by Tesh Kholin

[King Cole]

8 minutes ago, Smart Sloth said:

My friend who finished reading the Stormlight Archives before me told me about this when she finished WoR and I was really close to finishing WoK. Now I am done with both, and I love her idea. It makes perfect since. In Oathbringer, there will almost definitely be an awkward love triangle between Adolin, Shallan, and Kaladin. When Kaladin and Shallan were in the chasms together for three days, they goy to know each other. And Shallan and Adolin, well, let's just say it was love at first sight. Sure, Kaladin are friends by the end of the book, but that would make it even more awkward.

Definetly, this has to happen. Also, since you have been on more  than me in the last 2 days have an upvote

[Darkness Ascendant]

12 minutes ago, Smart Sloth said:

My friend who finished reading the Stormlight Archives before me told me about this when she finished WoR and I was really close to finishing WoK. Now I am done with both, and I love her idea. It makes perfect since. In Oathbringer, there will almost definitely be an awkward love triangle between Adolin, Shallan, and Kaladin. When Kaladin and Shallan were in the chasms together for three days, they goy to know each other. And Shallan and Adolin, well, let's just say it was love at first sight. Sure, Kaladin are friends by the end of the book, but that would make it even more awkward.

mmm there is alot on this already.

There won't be a love triangle because Kaladin will set aside any feelings he may have because he knows it will just lead to pain and confusion, and he doesn't want any animosity between himself and Adolin. He wants Shallan and Adolin to be happy together. No there won't be a love triangle at all in Oathbringer I hope, sure, it would bring alot of drama and make things interesting, but I'd much rather have it that Kaladin keeps to himself and doesn't get in between Adolin and Shallan, because that sort of sacrifice would make Kaladin's character development into something much more special and to be appreciated.

*shrugs

I hope there isn't...

[Tesh]

Well, we'll just have to wait till November 14th.

[maxal]

Actually considering Brandon has pretty much strongly hinted at a love triangle, then I would say the probability of one happening is very high. Always when asked about it his answers have been consistent: while he isn't a fan of traditional love triangle, Kaladin and Shallan will have romantic moments within Oathbringer. He also said what we interpret as "love triangle" will take the form of teenagers wondering whom they love.

Thus, the question should not be if there will be love triangle or not, but how it will play out, how will it not be traditional and who's feelings for whom will turn out not being real nor romantic because that's pretty much what Brandon strongly hinted at.

[Kered]

1 hour ago, maxal said:

Actually considering Brandon has pretty much strongly hinted at a love triangle, then I would say the probability of one happening is very high. Always when asked about it his answers have been consistent: while he isn't a fan of traditional love triangle, Kaladin and Shallan will have romantic moments within Oathbringer. He also said what we interpret as "love triangle" will take the form of teenagers wondering whom they love.

Thus, the question should not be if there will be love triangle or not, but how it will play out, how will it not be traditional and who's feelings for whom will turn out not being real nor romantic because that's pretty much what Brandon strongly hinted at.

This is what I was thinking. Brandon's romance style throughout his books is going to lead to a very interesting triangle throughout the series. He has a way to where the romance doesn't take over the plot, but strengthens it will humor and dynamic themes. Which is rare nowadays, romance has a tendency to drown the plot out in todays fantasy. 

in other words, it'll be fun to see Adolin's version of the bro code, and in which ways Kaladin violates it. 

[+Extesian]

To quote the man

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QUESTION (PARAPHRASED)

Please don’t tell me you’re going to do a love triangle between Adolin, Kaladin, and Shallan.

BRANDON SANDERSON

(he phrased this very carefully) I'm not a fan of the traditional love triangle. However, I am fond of conflict in relationships.

So I don't think an actual love triangle but maybe some suspense and tension around who she chooses. 

[maxal]

3 hours ago, Kered said:

in other words, it'll be fun to see Adolin's version of the bro code, and in which ways Kaladin violates it. 

This is bond to be interesting because since Brandon confirmed Kaladin would have romantic moments with Shallan, so it will definitely be on the table. I honestly have no idea what Adolin's version of bro code might be, but I suspect he might interpret it as "yet another betrayal from someone he thought actually cared about him". My gut feeling is he is more likely to take Kaladin's betrayal harder than Shallan's: he probably expects her's, but not his's.

2 hours ago, Extesian said:

To quote the man

So I don't think an actual love triangle but maybe some suspense and tension around who she chooses. 

Well, he did say Kaladin would have romantic moments with Shallan into Oathbringer, so I'd say a love triangle is pretty much what we are getting. Knowing Brandon though, it probably won't be a main story arc and it may not be happening at the same time. In other words, Shallan may not simultaneously wonder about both boys. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

[Kered]

12 minutes ago, maxal said:

This is bond to be interesting because since Brandon confirmed Kaladin would have romantic moments with Shallan, so it will definitely be on the table. I honestly have no idea what Adolin's version of bro code might be, but I suspect he might interpret it as "yet another betrayal from someone he thought actually cared about him". My gut feeling is he is more likely to take Kaladin's betrayal harder than Shallan's: he probably expects her's, but not his's.

 

With what happened with Adolin at then end of WoR(Spoiler hint: It involved a knife and ocular cavity) and with what you said about "yet another betrayal" and taking it harder where Kaladin's concern, I see a dark path in Adolins future. Near future. 

[Tesh]

My friend who told me about this is a member now. Her name is Kaladinwillumarryme? She rather likes Kaladin.

[maxal]

38 minutes ago, Kered said:

With what happened with Adolin at then end of WoR(Spoiler hint: It involved a knife and ocular cavity) and with what you said about "yet another betrayal" and taking it harder where Kaladin's concern, I see a dark path in Adolins future. Near future. 

Adolin going down a dark path also is highly unlikely. It would require the character to fundamentally change in ways where redemption is impossible and seeing how many characters having done much worst for much more debatable reasons, that seems even more unlikely. Also there is this WoB:

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QUESTION

I am very convinced that Adolin, with the events that happen with the last book. You’re sending him down a like a dark path. Is he possibly going to be a-- Antagonist(?) protagonist(?)-- A bad, eventually? Or is he--

BRANDON SANDERSON

I’m going to say this, the things that Adolin did do not contradict some of the moralities on Roshar, in fact they follow them directly. Some of the moralities on our planet would say what he did is the right thing to do. I think treating it as a “dark path” is too reductionist to say. There are people who would seriously argue, and they would have a good argument, that what Dalinar was doing by leaving Sadeas around was a good idea. And then there are other people who would say “You know what Sadeas did was a challenge and it was rightly then responded to” and then there are people who would say it was absolutely immoral. So, it depends on your philosophy. What would Honor say? Well, Honor’s dead, so-- *lots of laughter* You know Honor would not have been behind that action, but Honor’s dead.

 

I thus doubt Adolin is going down the dark path, nor is he becoming an antagonist. What I see is a rough pass ahead of him: basically everyone he cares for or thinks he cares for has betrayed him and/or shown they cared more about other people but him. So yeah, I do think Kaladin's betrayal may hurt the hardest, but I could be wrong about it. I am not entirely sure, I just feel it might go down this way.

Edited May 22, 2017 by maxal

[Kered]

Just now, maxal said:

Adolin going down a dark path also is highly unlikely. It would require the character to fundamentally change in ways where redemption is impossible and seeing how many characters having done much worst for less debatable reasons, that seems even more unlikely. Also there is this WoB:

 

I thus doubt Adolin is going down the dark path, nor is he becoming an antagonist. What I see is a rough pass ahead of him: basically everyone he cares for or thinks he cares for has betrayed him and/or shown they cared more about other people but him. So yeah, I do think Kaladin's betrayal may hurt the hardest, but I could be wrong about it. I am not entirely sure, I just feel it might go down this way.

 

 

 

 

I meant dark path in the sense of emotional headspace, not him going baddie. I think it's going to push him to be a stronger person and push him to become something better. But that's a theory that should be in a different topic haha. 

[maxal]

Just now, Kered said:

I meant dark path in the sense of emotional headspace, not him going baddie. I think it's going to push him to be a stronger person and push him to become something better. But that's a theory that should be in a different topic haha. 

Oh good then I agree. Usually when others say "dark path" they mean "Anakin Skywalker's path". I definitely think Adolin will get into a "bad place", emotionally and I do think it will trial him seriously. I am unsure how he will react, but I am quite sure it will not be a "no matter". I am not sure "better" is the right term, but my thoughts are having to deal with what he may perceive (rightfully or not) as "betrayals" and yet still manage to keep on caring for others (after actively trying to act as if he didn't) could enable him to finally grow into the man he can be.

[Kered]

1 hour ago, maxal said:

Oh good then I agree. Usually when others say "dark path" they mean "Anakin Skywalker's path". I definitely think Adolin will get into a "bad place", emotionally and I do think it will trial him seriously. I am unsure how he will react, but I am quite sure it will not be a "no matter". I am not sure "better" is the right term, but my thoughts are having to deal with what he may perceive (rightfully or not) as "betrayals" and yet still manage to keep on caring for others (after actively trying to act as if he didn't) could enable him to finally grow into the man he can be.

Yeah, let's hope Adolin starts killing younglings. 

 

....spoiler? 

[Stormlightning]

I sincerely hope no form of the love triangle appears in the future, but it does hint at that, and if your WoB are correct, I guess I'll just have to deal with it. However, I'm pretty sure there was a WoB from YEARS ago indicating that Brandon finds love triangles (generally, as a trope) *very* distasteful.

Because of this, I think that the only reason one would exist here would be for some significant story development. I believe we're about to enter a very intense growth period for Adolin's character after the end of WoR, thus, the only good purpose for a love triangle between them is for Adolin to have a 'breaking' experience that would allow him to become a Surgebinder. Up to this point, I don't think his life has been particularly difficult, so there's currently a very low chance of him being a Surgebinder.

So between Sadeas and whatever ramifications that move will have, and Shallan running off with Kaladin(please don't let that be permanent), I imagine there's a chance for Adolin to have a traumatic enough experience to become Invested. 

And then we can run screaming from the love triangle.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Stormlightning said:

and Shallan running off with Kaladin(please don't let that be permanent)

Oh, please do.

Sometimes I feel like, that I'm the only one, who thinks that the interactions between Shallan and Adolin are forced, shallow and boring. Sometimes borderline cringey.

Edited May 22, 2017 by SLNC

[Vissy]

Just now, Smart Sloth said:

My friend who told me about this is a member now. Her name is Kaladinwillumarryme? She rather likes Kaladin.

I think this can be guessed from her nickname XD

[Starla]

At the end of WOR Adolin is contemplating the fact that his causal betrothed is now a radiant, and he isn't quite sure how to feel about it. Perhaps he is feeling a little inadequate, or his confidence is waning and he is uncertain of his purpose in Urithiru, the Knights Radiant city. He may decide to leave for a while, perhaps return to his home in Kholinar where he can help with the problems there. His lack of confidence might lead him to call off the causal betrothal, leaving Shallan before she has a chance to leave him. 

After this, Shallan and Kaladin might explore some feelings. In this scenario there would be no real love triangle and no betrayal of the bro code since Adolin broke it off with Shallan first. I could see Shallan having feelings for both and confused about what she wants, but she is not seeing both of them at the same time.

In this scenario there is the possibility of Adolin and Kaladin remaining friends, which is the primary relationship I'd like to last. 

[Steeldancer]

24 minutes ago, Starla said:

At the end of WOR Adolin is contemplating the fact that his causal betrothed is now a radiant, and he isn't quite sure how to feel about it. Perhaps he is feeling a little inadequate, or his confidence is waning and he is uncertain of his purpose in Urithiru, the Knights Radiant city. He may decide to leave for a while, perhaps return to his home in Kholinar where he can help with the problems there. His lack of confidence might lead him to call off the causal betrothal, leaving Shallan before she has a chance to leave him. 

After this, Shallan and Kaladin might explore some feelings. In this scenario there would be no real love triangle and no betrayal of the bro code since Adolin broke it off with Shallan first. I could see Shallan having feelings for both and confused about what she wants, but she is not seeing both of them at the same time.

In this scenario there is the possibility of Adolin and Kaladin remaining friends, which is the primary relationship I'd like to last. 

I agree with the last part. But frankly who knows what will happen. For all we know, shallan will end up dying. Not that I actually think that will happen, but it might!

[maxal]

8 hours ago, Stormlightning said:

I sincerely hope no form of the love triangle appears in the future, but it does hint at that, and if your WoB are correct, I guess I'll just have to deal with it. However, I'm pretty sure there was a WoB from YEARS ago indicating that Brandon finds love triangles (generally, as a trope) *very* distasteful.

I assume you are referring to this WoB:

 

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QUESTION (PARAPHRASED)

Please don’t tell me you’re going to do a love triangle between Adolin, Kaladin, and Shallan.

BRANDON SANDERSON

(he phrased this very carefully) I'm not a fan of the traditional love triangle. However, I am fond of conflict in relationships.

 

 

My interpretation is Brandon does not wish to write a story centering around the idea of a love triangle. Too often when love triangle there is, it takes over the main narrative and it may be what he wants to avoid. I am truly unsure of how he will play it out, but subsequent WoB did confirm there will be a love triangle which he considers is akin to teenagers not knowing whom they love. My thoughts thus are we aren't going to read say Shallan wondering whom she loves the most or which of the two boys she loves to pair herself with, but we are going to read her wondering if really loves Adolin and if whatever she feels towards Kaladin truly is love. She will wonder, she will ask herself and knowing Shallan, she will experiment it. I definitely think she will kiss Kaladin thought what her thoughts are going to be afterwards is yet to be seen.

8 hours ago, Stormlightning said:

Because of this, I think that the only reason one would exist here would be for some significant story development. I believe we're about to enter a very intense growth period for Adolin's character after the end of WoR, thus, the only good purpose for a love triangle between them is for Adolin to have a 'breaking' experience that would allow him to become a Surgebinder. Up to this point, I don't think his life has been particularly difficult, so there's currently a very low chance of him being a Surgebinder.

So between Sadeas and whatever ramifications that move will have, and Shallan running off with Kaladin(please don't let that be permanent), I imagine there's a chance for Adolin to have a traumatic enough experience to become Invested. 

And then we can run screaming from the love triangle.

Adolin's character has a lot of growth opportunities right now within the story with or without the love triangle so I honestly doubt Brandon plucked it in for this sole reason. I suspect the love triangle is there because Brandon feels it is the right thing to do with his character, not because he wants to use it to break down Adolin, especially since Adolin doesn't need to become a Radiant. He isn't bond by the narrative structure to any path and Brandon once said Adolin was a seed which he has allowed to grow since its original outline: same character, same seed, but he finds it interesting to see where he can go if given a bit of water. Thus Adolin's growth is something Brandon is probably discovering as he is writing it which is why I do not think he planted the love triangle on purpose.

My personal interpretation on Adolin's character is he's had his own hardships, but his natural response to those has always been to work harder, to push harder, to try harder and hence, he grew up whole. It isn't he's never had problems, but he refused to allow them to take over, always trying to appear strong. We see however, with his relationships, Adolin isn't perfect nor it isn't completely true he has no issues. He does, but he has never allowed those to rule over him. I however feel if he keeps on being pushed and shoved, something will break, this societal armor he wears at all time will shatter and once it does, everything he put under it will resurface: his mother, his father, his brother, his friends, his courtships, horses. If I am right, when this happens, Adolin will be a complete mess and might as well decide he isn't worthy of his family anywhere since he's failed in so many ways.

52 minutes ago, Starla said:

At the end of WOR Adolin is contemplating the fact that his causal betrothed is now a radiant, and he isn't quite sure how to feel about it. Perhaps he is feeling a little inadequate, or his confidence is waning and he is uncertain of his purpose in Urithiru, the Knights Radiant city. He may decide to leave for a while, perhaps return to his home in Kholinar where he can help with the problems there. His lack of confidence might lead him to call off the causal betrothal, leaving Shallan before she has a chance to leave him. 

After this, Shallan and Kaladin might explore some feelings. In this scenario there would be no real love triangle and no betrayal of the bro code since Adolin broke it off with Shallan first. I could see Shallan having feelings for both and confused about what she wants, but she is not seeing both of them at the same time.

In this scenario there is the possibility of Adolin and Kaladin remaining friends, which is the primary relationship I'd like to last. 

This is a plausible scenario. I certainly toyed with the idea and I would rank it as "possible". It however does not address how and why Adolin gets to remove his uniform which I think out to have some importance since Brandon did give it as a clue.

I personally think either Adolin or Shallan will end the betrothal and whatever romantic story happens with Kaladin and Shallan is to happen during this time. I however feel Adolin would see it as a betrayal one way or another. The fact it is Kaladin, of all people, Shallan attaches herself after leaving him will hurt: oh it will hurt him of this I am convinced just as Navani marrying Gavilar probably turned out being worst for Dalinar then if she had chosen someone more random.

Honestly, if Brandon goes for a Kaladin/Shallan steady relationship after book 3, then I have no idea of the Adolin/Kaladin friendship will be salvageable. Knowing there is a one year gap in between book 3 and 4, then it may be the Kaladin/Shallan relationship will happen during this time while Adolin is away. It may be he runs away towards the end of book 3 and we only see him a year later, in book 4, trap into a new life. These are just ideas, but I personally do not see the Adolin/Kaladin friendship surviving Kaladin and Shallan becoming a serious relationship. Adolin would be like Dalinar, unable to ever move pass the fact she didn't chose him, choosing a life of celibate, never taking a wife and spending decades avoiding Shallan, on purpose, as much as possible. 

[Reborn radiant]

Am I the only one who finds Kaladin x shallan extremely distasteful? I am not particularly fond of Adolin x Shallan to be honest, but if it makes my boy Adolin happy, I am happy too. I almost always like the characters most people I know don't - Elend in mistborn, Vivenna in Warbreaker now Adolin in Stormlight. Sigh,

But seriously, I hope to god Kaladin x shallan won't happen, it is too cliched and I'd rather have Adolin x kaladin (Ik both are straight. So bromance atleast) than any love triangle.

Adolin is the one guy I am seriously worried about and I am rather scared to read oathbringer because Bran San doesn't seem to like Adolin at all. Sigh.

[gbazz4]

38 minutes ago, Reborn radiant said:

Am I the only one who finds Kaladin x shallan extremely distasteful?

I am right there with you on this. It is too cliché  for me. I would prefer it just get left Adolin and Shallan then Kaladin finding another interest. It would be better for the story in my opinion. The only possible upside to a relationship between Kaladin and Shallan would be if their spren can interact and reading some banter between Pattern and Syl.

[maxal]

57 minutes ago, Reborn radiant said:

Am I the only one who finds Kaladin x shallan extremely distasteful? I am not particularly fond of Adolin x Shallan to be honest, but if it makes my boy Adolin happy, I am happy too. I almost always like the characters most people I know don't - Elend in mistborn, Vivenna in Warbreaker now Adolin in Stormlight. Sigh,

But seriously, I hope to god Kaladin x shallan won't happen, it is too cliched and I'd rather have Adolin x kaladin (Ik both are straight. So bromance atleast) than any love triangle.

Adolin is the one guy I am seriously worried about and I am rather scared to read oathbringer because Bran San doesn't seem to like Adolin at all. Sigh.

I find the word distasteful to be rather strong especially considering we haven't truly seen Kaladin and Shallan evolve into a relationship. Granted, I didn't personally enjoy their interactions and my personal thoughts are Adolin/Shallan would end up being more meaningful for each character's development than then alternative, but still I find the terminology employed to be perhaps precipitated? There is a very strong chance Brandon is actually going for the Kaladin/Shallan ship, hence for better or for worst, either we like it or not, we might have to do with it. Also, we do know Kaladin/Shallan will happen, what we do not know is what the conclusion will be: will the feelings they might feel towards each other turn out being romantic or not? At least, we know Oathbringer should provide the answer.

One of my worry is, if he goes with the Kaladin/Shallan story arc, how he is going to make Adolin's character development complete, meaningful and as interesting without a female partner. 

Also, I wouldn't say people do not like Elend nor Adolin. I haven't been involved into the Mistborn fandom, but my perception is Elend is a pretty popular character as for Adolin, well, he currently is one of the most popular character in SA. When asked about it, Brandon did say he was aware of how popular Adolin has gotten and he would treat the character fairly, whatever this means. What he did say which was heartbreaking to the numerous Adolin fans is the fact he found Renarin more interesting. I however have to clarify the context into which he said it: it is no secret he has crafted his story around the idea of each flashback characters having a secret to reveal. Hence, they were chosen not necessarily on overall importance to the main narrative but through their ability to provide this. Adolin does not have this characteristic. It isn't his past isn't interesting (we are getting at least one flashback chapters for him), it is the fact it doesn't form a cohesive story completed with a beginning, a denouement and an ending architect around a secret he has been hiding. What Adolin has been hiding aren't facts, but feelings and these do not follow the structure Brandon wished for his books to have. Hence, considering his inability, as a character, to provide the required structure, Brandon finds Renarin more interesting. In order to cheer you up, Brandon also said he found Adolin to be very precious and important within the story as he provides a much needed balance. 

Overall, Brandon's intentions towards Adolin are rather nebulous, but I wouldn't say he is ready to toss him out of the story. His character is a lot more important to the narrative then it appears upon first glance.

 

[Stormlightning]

I don't think @gbazz4 means that a relationship between Kaladin and Shallan would be distasteful because of the characters themselves, but more because of the cliche nature of such a relationship. I mean come on, it's like every story ever where the two protagonists can't stand each other and then somehow fall in love. Because of Brandon's skill I imagine that Shaladin would be a lot more believable than the typical cliche, I even believe I'd grow to like it, but it still stinks of the bandwagon.

Adolin and Shallan's relationship right now is pretty shallow. Granted. But isn't that where all relationships start? I like them

[maxal]

1 hour ago, Stormlightning said:

I don't think @gbazz4 means that a relationship between Kaladin and Shallan would be distasteful because of the characters themselves, but more because of the cliche nature of such a relationship. I mean come on, it's like every story ever where the two protagonists can't stand each other and then somehow fall in love. Because of Brandon's skill I imagine that Shaladin would be a lot more believable than the typical cliche, I even believe I'd grow to like it, but it still stinks of the bandwagon.

Adolin and Shallan's relationship right now is pretty shallow. Granted. But isn't that where all relationships start? I like them

Oh I understood the statement, I just found it perhaps a bit strong, but nothing detrimental. I have often used the argument wanting Kaladin/Shallan, considering the fact they both start up by yelling at each other while both being the main protagonists of the story, to be very cliche. From the moment Shallan obliged Kaladin to give her his boots, even though there was absolutely no romantic undertone whatsoever within this scene, all readers knew they would have a romantic arc. This just highlights how prevalent and expected this trope is. In comparison, I had a hard time finding one reader who thought Adolin even had the glimmer of a chance prior to reading WoR. It is thus, going for the most obvious ship, the one everyone can see from afar even prior to it even being a thing, will, well, always be.. obvious. Obviously, all readers come from a different place: many absolutely dislike Adolin/Shallan and deeply root for Kaladin/Shallan. It is very hard to argue against personal preferences.

For my part, if Brandon indeed goes for the Kaladin/Shallan ship, as I do think he will, I can only hope he will find a way to make it less cliche, less convenient. I need to believe these people would actually have a story if it weren't for the chasm and, more importantly, I need to believe it is a better option than Adolin/Shallan which means Brandon has to write in something satisfying for Adolin to justify why he isn't getting closure on relationships. My personal thoughts are Kaladin/Shallan are highly likely to end Oathbringer while being in a relationship, but this won't guarantee they will remain together within the longer run. Brandon might have a few more twists and turns for this one, but who knows, it may also be I am totally wrong. I am not willing to bet anything on it.

Also =, I didn't think Adolin/Shallan was shallow. They had their genuine moments, during their first date when Shallan allowed his natural curiosity, her natural self to take over which caused Adolin to answer in the most genuine manner we have seen him. Also, he open-up, he told something personal, he allowed his feelings to speak, the ones he usually never lets out. To me, it was meaningful, because neither actually had to do it, it just happened.