Jedal he/him Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 I'm just trying to get a grip on the game, lol... I guess I'm gonna vote Herowannabe simply because he's trying really hard to not look suspicious.
queensteph she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 Jedal I honestly think he's innocent but in order to keep from multilynches from happening
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 19 hours ago, randuir said: Also, before I forget, Drought. In addition to what yitzi has already explained, there's this post: This would have been a perfect set-up for elim!droughtbringer. He would get to lynch village!ecth, while being able to blame it all on me, and then use this to try and discredit anything I said later. A villager would have either stood with his own suspicions, or gone over to vote with someone else without first making sure he could throw all the blame on the one leading the vote. This. That's what I was trying to say lsat cycle. It just seemed too obvious for an elim to actually say aloud. >> Implying it or acting like it is one thing, but that's remarkably blatant. Though.... No, Drought's been evil before. In which case, Drought, you really need to be a bit more careful as an elim. 12 hours ago, Yitzi2 said: By the way, given that I am now confirmed village (if I were elim, I could have gone with BR as to the knight kill and won the game), I would like to ask everybody who can to send me a PM with their alignment and role (and anything else they care to share); maybe I'll be able to figure out what roles are on which side and maybe someone will slip up again. EDIT: I do not think this would be a good move, as it would make the elims know who's the next knight. Better to send me the application. Rand already pointed this out, but yeah. No. Definitely not. Mayors are no fun for anyone but the mayor. Better to let people play in their own wya. Because being lynched for refusing to give up your role is not fun at all. 10 hours ago, Ornstein said: Hi I'm back! .... THERE'S ONLY 8 PEOPLE LEFT !!!!! FRICK! Ill try my best Not to die! Try your best to stay active as well this time? >> 5 hours ago, Herowannabe said: Awesome, thanks for your quick reply. Your story checks out with things that have been said in the past (I just finished a read through of the past few days) so I am inclined to trust you. Also, it should be pretty clear that I am village: 1. I had the dancing power- a broken ability to give to the Eliminators to start with 2. I just used that power to kill an eliminator. 3. @randuir and @Yitzi2 can confirm that I did so at their PM-suggestions. If I were an eliminator, that would be a very elaborate and meaningless ruse to go through to gain a bit of trust, when instead I could have just married a team mate, give them the dancing-power, and we could have killed two people and instantly won the game. Just a note that I disagree with the bolded point - it's a one-time kill. It'd be difficult to balance, and I'd probably expect the village to have more than one Tripper, but the role itself isn't totally broken and could never be given to the elims. Hmm, so it's myself (nope), Lopen, Jedal, or Steph? I trust that Rand, Hero, and Yitzi are cleared. Steph... I'm less certain about than Yitzi is, personally. It's within the realm of plausibility that the elims would kill Rand anywya, since he's dangerous enough for that. Jedal has barely said anything. Lopen... I don't know. I feel like I trust him, but that's also standard for me. >> Hey, Looen, the problem you used to have with me is finally reversed. Hmm. Hero.
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) (Not sure if my post ninja'd by Joe counts. If I get to choose (unlikely), I would rather it didn't.) Edited May 16, 2017 by Yitzi2
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted May 16, 2017 Author Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Cycle 6: Everything that went right goes wrong eventually Papa Randuir pursed his lips. Mama Randuir folded her arms. Both stared at their son cavorting about with his, Dinosaur husband? Who was also a Smedry? “I can’t tell if we raised him wrong or not Mama Randuir.” “He is marrying his own cousin Papa Randuir, that’s usually a sign of odditiy.” “There’s no way we’re blood relatives to a DinosaurI How is Herbert even a Smedry anyway?” Mama Randuir shrugged helplessly. “Infidelity in a previous Dinoman union?” “Oh dearie me, they’re coming this way, smile and act happy for the boy. He is dying on his wedding day after all.” And so, Rand, the boy of Prophecy, Knight of Crystalia, Horrible Dancer, died with a smile on his face, among a very confused family, leaving behind a grieving dino as the heir to all his estates, which mostly consisted of a hotdog stand, comic books, and an Eldritch artifact with world ending power which was mistaken for a beach ball and promptly lost in the ocean. Today was horrible. This was supposed to be a fun adventure, not, this knightmareish walking on brittle glass whatever this is. Jemma and Aaron vanished yesterday, after attacking Rand. Celia was planning on infiltrating the Knights to try and figure out what happened, But then a Knight delivered a letter, stating their apologies. Sir Rand killed Celia’s husband in cold blood, and Sir Rand’s Husband killed Master Namer in even colder blood. He literally ate him! Celia left then. She went with the knights for some business. It’s getting pretty lonely here at the safehouse. Only a couple of us left, and we’re getting more and more surrounded. We’ve got a desperate plan though, and if it works, it should buy us some time. We just have to go incite a mob to violence again. . . . This isn’t at all what i imagined. I want out, but i think it’s too late at this point. Fearfully, Sabaneta Smedry Sabaneta ran. Ran as her life depended on it. It had failed, oh Sands, it had failed. The mob had certainly attacked Herbet, but he’d escaped death, Jedal hadn’t, but the Knights, They’d taken Celia. They’d grabbed her right off the street, and they’d all been seen with her. They needed to hide, and hope that none of them had been seen, otherwise, this might be it. It was all coming crashing down, Sweet Alexandria, why had she even defected in the first place? She skidded around a corner, ducked into an alleyway, and pressed her back against the stone wall, panting from exertion. She desperately listened, trying to catch a sound of armored footsteps coming behind her. But there was silence. She peeked around the corner, but no one was there. She half chuckled, half sobbed in relief, and sank to the ground, hugging her knees against her chest. She dropped her head to her knees and continued to sob. Everything had gone wrong. Jedal was lynched! He was a Freeworlder Herowannabe was Lynched! He has exactly 24 hours to live! Lopen was killed by the Knights! He was a HushlanderKnight Librarian! Randuir expired from his wounds!He was a FreeworlderSmedry with a Talent for Arriving Late and Dancing Votes: Jedal(3): Hero, Yitzi, Steph Hero(3): Jedal, Elbereth, Lopen The cycle ends in: Player List: Singles Yitzi2 (Jack) A Videogame Engineer Ornstein (Pavelock) A Physiologist who trains locks. OrlokTsubodai (Orlok) An average citizen who does his best to ignore politics. Elbereth (Ella) A cute, innocent little girl) Couples, Platonic Life partners and a Dinosaur: Queensteph (Alex) Smedry with a Talent for Tripping Herowannabe (Herbert) Smedry with a Talent for Dancing and Arriving Late Dead/Detained/In Coma’s Sart Killed by Knights C1: Freeworlder! Bridge Boy Lynched C1: Freeworlder! Smedry: Looking Ugly Cloudjumper Lynched Cycle 2: Freeworlder! Knight Cluny the Scourge Killed by Knights C2: Freeworlder! _stick_ Killed by Hushlanders C2: Freeworlder! Librarian! Magestar Lynched C3: Freeworlder! Seonid Killed by Hushlanders C2: Freeworlder! Librarian! BrightnessRadiant Killed by Knights C4: Hushlander Knight! Ecthelion III Lynched C4: Freeworlder! DroughtBringer Killed C5 by Herowannabe: Hushlander Librarian Smedry Tripping Unodus Killed C5 by Randuir: Freeworlder! Randuir Killed C5 by Hushlanders, Died C6 FreeworlderSmedry with a Talent for Arriving Late and Dancing The MightyLopen Killed C5 by the Knights:HushlanderKnight Librarian! Jedal Lynched C5: Freeworlder! Edited May 17, 2017 by Alvron 9
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 ...um. Oops? Gah. I had one minute to post and typed Hero instead of Jedal for some reason, seeing Jedal's vote just above mine. >> No idea why I conflated the two. Sorry, all. Well done to the knights for taking out Lopen, though. So now we're down to seven alive, six who will stay that way. One to two elims left. Which is certainly better odds than in past turns, but doesn't mean we can relax. If Orlok's village, that makes it worst case 3-2. (And one of those three could be Ornstein. Which would be even less helpful.) As I understand it... wait, Joe, why isn't Jedal marked as dead in the player list? So six alive, five who'll stay that way. If Orlok is village, it's 2-2, and if Ornstein is village, we're not in good shape. @Yitzi2 who are the knights, now, since Rand and Lopen both just died? And Yitzi and Hero are both cleared, obviously. So the elim (since I'm discounting myself) is 1-2 of Ornstein, Steph, and Orlok. Orlok is less of a priority at moment, since we'll realise that it's him if there isn't a kill this cycle, and if there are two elims the more active one is the necessity. Out of Ornstein or Steph, I'm leaning slightly towards Ornstein, since Steph is a Tripper and giving the only one of those to the elims seems a little off. (But also, her logic has been off this game a great deal, particularly last cycle, which makes me more wary. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?)
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted May 16, 2017 Author Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Elbereth said: As I understand it... wait, Joe, why isn't Jedal marked as dead in the player list? Fixed.
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Elbereth said: @Yitzi2...um. Oops? Gah. I had one minute to post and typed Hero instead of Jedal for some reason, seeing Jedal's vote just above mine. >> No idea why I conflated the two. And the fact that you and Lopen posted right at the end, right when it would clearly be too late for the village to react, and Lopen was ready to take advantage of it at a moment...that's all just coincidence? Elbereth. Also, it should be noted that in PM, Steph thought Jedal was innocent and Elbereth was a more likely candidate, and she tripped Lopen early on when he was trying to scan, so she is EXTREMELY unlikely to be an elim.
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 I posted at the end because I had not been on the Shard until about half an hour before turnover, as far as I remember. (Could put that in blue text if you like - it's not a lie - but I don't really like using blue text unless absolutely necessary). The whole reason I voted wrong is that I was rushed for time because I realised it was :58 and I hadn't voted yet. Lopen being on to take advantage of it is bad timing for us and a good call by him. >> ....Uh. There are a number of problems there. 1. Thinking someone is good does not make you soft-cleared when they die and turn out to be good. At all. Like, that is part of the reason I called out Drought. Because he thought Ecth was innocent. Part of the reason... um, someone. I don't know who. Someone was called out this game for seeming too certain about an alignment before it came up, though. 2. I should note that Steph married Drought. Assuming she is a Tripper (which we've seen no evidence of, but is pretty likely), that seems like decent evidence for her being evil. 3. Tripping Lopen early isn't evidence of her being good? At all? I am very confused about this logic, and would be calling you out were you not cleared. Tripping a fellow elim is an excellent excuse for what you did when you're putting in the kill that cycle.
Herowannabe he/him Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, A Joe in the Bush said: Cycle 6: Everything that went right goes wrong eventually Papa Randuir pursed his lips. Mama Randuir folded her arms. Both stared at their son cavorting about with his, Dinosaur husband? Who was also a Smedry? “I can’t tell if we raised him wrong or not Mama Randuir.” “He is marrying his own cousin Papa Randuir, that’s usually a sign of odditiy.” “There’s no way we’re blood relatives to a DinosaurI How is Herbert even a Smedry anyway?” Herbert perked up when he heard his name being spoken, and lumbered over to his new in-laws. They gazed up at him in terror as he began speaking. "Pardon me, but I could help but overhearing your conversation. Indeed I am a Smedry, although I clearly have no human-ancestry. How can this be, you ask? It really is quite simple. If you think about it, you will see that there is only one explanation." Herbert paused for dramatic effect, but the Randuir parents just gazed at him with wide, horror-struck eyes. "I was adopted, of course! By none other than Josiah B. Smedry the third." Herbert grinned, showing rows of razor sharp teeth, and Mama-Randuir promptly fainted. "Oh my," Herbert said. "You mustn't be afraid. I have a strict policy of not eating relatives. I find that it creates far too much drama at the family reunions." "N-no," Papa-Randuir stammered. "It's not th-that. You have a... a..." He raised a shakey hand to point at Herbert's chest, and Herbert looked down. There was a massive spear rammed through his chest and protruding out his back. Blood was getting everywhere, staining his tuxedo. "Ah yes, I had noticed that. It's fine, really. We Micropachycephalosaurs are so big that it takes a lot longer for blood to reach our brains. And nerve impulses, too. I really don't notice the spear at all, but it will probably sting in the morning." Herbert grinned and slapped Papa-Randuir on the back (toppling the man over), then turned and rejoined the party. His appetite had returned, and he knew just who to eat this time. yeah, Elbereth, not buying it. Not a single word. Queensteph had one HUGE piece of evidence in her favor that you do not. Simply put, she didn't vote for an all-but-confirmed-good player last cycle, and you did. Also, she had the power to betray us with her power and get Yitzi killed, easy as pie, but she didn't. the only question now is whether or not you have any accomplices left or if you are the last Hushlander. Edited May 16, 2017 by Herowannabe Punctuation 1
queensteph she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, A Joe in the Bush said: DroughtBringer Killed C5 by Herowannabe: Hushlander Librarian Smedry Tripping (Edit:I forgot tot tag @Elbereth )I am a tripper. 3 hours ago, Elbereth said: ...um. Oops? Gah. I had one minute to post and typed Hero instead of Jedal for some reason, seeing Jedal's vote just above mine. >> No idea why I conflated the two. Sorry, all. Well done to the knights for taking out Lopen, though. So now we're down to seven alive, six who will stay that way. One to two elims left. Which is certainly better odds than in past turns, but doesn't mean we can relax. If Orlok's village, that makes it worst case 3-2. (And one of those three could be Ornstein. Which would be even less helpful.) As I understand it... wait, Joe, why isn't Jedal marked as dead in the player list? So six alive, five who'll stay that way. If Orlok is village, it's 2-2, and if Ornstein is village, we're not in good shape. @Yitzi2 who are the knights, now, since Rand and Lopen both just died? And Yitzi and Hero are both cleared, obviously. So the elim (since I'm discounting myself) is 1-2 of Ornstein, Steph, and Orlok. Orlok is less of a priority at moment, since we'll realise that it's him if there isn't a kill this cycle, and if there are two elims the more active one is the necessity. Out of Ornstein or Steph, I'm leaning slightly towards Ornstein, since Steph is a Tripper and giving the only one of those to the elims seems a little off. (But also, her logic has been off this game a great deal, particularly last cycle, which makes me more wary. Anyone else have thoughts on the matter?) /bolded is mine. hahahah i know my logic is super bad i was trying to hurry. but hey i'm trying. Elbereth. (I'll post why I'm voting on El in a bit, i'm waiting for yitzi to reply in PM to make sure my logic makes sense this time aha) Edited May 16, 2017 by queensteph
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Elbereth said: I posted at the end because I had not been on the Shard until about half an hour before turnover, as far as I remember. (Could put that in blue text if you like - it's not a lie - but I don't really like using blue text unless absolutely necessary). The whole reason I voted wrong is that I was rushed for time because I realised it was :58 and I hadn't voted yet. Lopen being on to take advantage of it is bad timing for us and a good call by him. >> ....Uh. There are a number of problems there. 1. Thinking someone is good does not make you soft-cleared when they die and turn out to be good. At all. Like, that is part of the reason I called out Drought. Because he thought Ecth was innocent. Part of the reason... um, someone. I don't know who. Someone was called out this game for seeming too certain about an alignment before it came up, though. 2. I should note that Steph married Drought. Assuming she is a Tripper (which we've seen no evidence of, but is pretty likely), that seems like decent evidence for her being evil. 3. Tripping Lopen early isn't evidence of her being good? At all? I am very confused about this logic, and would be calling you out were you not cleared. Tripping a fellow elim is an excellent excuse for what you did when you're putting in the kill that cycle. 1. No, but trying to divert a lynch from someone now known to be innocent onto someone now known to be guilty does. 2. Or just overly trusting. It's probably the strongest point against her, but I still think it's outweighed by the points for her. 3. Tripping someone else and having someone without a role (or someone whose role is not being used, i.e. BR) send in the kill is even better. Or even "tripping" an elim who isn't taking an action, so as to not draw attention to a fellow elim via him saying "I was tripped, but that's not why the elim kill is not present". Edited May 16, 2017 by Yitzi2
Herowannabe he/him Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 Vote tally: Ornstein (1) - Elbereth Elbereth (3) - Yitzi, Herowannabe, Queensteph @Ornstein and @OrlokTsubodai, care to chime in? In all likelihood, at least ONE of you is a villager, and withholding your vote is not helping. The "Bad at Math" talent is still out there somewhere, and if the Eliminators (assuming more than 1 are still alive) have it they could get married and potentially pull a hefty vote swing with it.
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 12 hours ago, queensteph said: (Edit:I forgot tot tag @Elbereth )I am a tripper. Right. Duh. >> 6 hours ago, Yitzi2 said: 3. Tripping someone else and having someone without a role (or someone whose role is not being used, i.e. BR) send in the kill is even better. Or even "tripping" an elim who isn't taking an action, so as to not draw attention to a fellow elim via him saying "I was tripped, but that's not why the elim kill is not present". That drawing attention worked pretty well, I'd say. It is a major reason Rand trusted him for so long, after all. Anyway. Very well. I'm a bit screwed at this point, obviously. I was mostly curious whether trying to defend myself might actually work. Bored of that now. So, since I'm gonna die this cycle and strategy isn't really important anymore, I'll do something I've been wanting to do all game: Ella played with the dagger in her hand, tossing it up and down and catching it perfectly each time. She'd had practice, of course. She loved this dagger. It had killed so many people she hadn't liked, and now there was one more death: the most important one. But before that... She tucked the dagger away and skipped over to Orlok, all eyes in the room watching her. "Hey," she said, poking him. He didn't respond. He'd been pointedly ignoring everyone since the start of this whole bout of ridiculousness and killings. She poked him again, harder, and finally snatched the book out of his hands - something about unicorns? and put it to the side. (Carefully, of course. Just because she wanted his attention doesn't mean the book had to get hurt for it.) "What?" he finally said, irritated. "Yay!" she said brightly. "Will you marry me?" "What?" he said, in a completely different tone of voice. She rolled her eyes and got down on one knee theatrically. "Forgive the lack of a ring. Orlok. Will you marry me?" "......ummm." 4
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Elbereth said: Right. Duh. >> That drawing attention worked pretty well, I'd say. It is a major reason Rand trusted him for so long, after all. It also eventually led to him being outed as a librarian, which was one of the major reasons I ended up not trusting him and arranging the knight kill on him.
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 At the time, no one realised that you had to be sending in orders to be Tripped.
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Elbereth said: At the time, no one realised that you had to be sending in orders to be Tripped. True. Nevertheless, it drew attention, and I would have avoided it. In any case, I don't think it's a good idea for us to put too much consideration on what you have to say, now that we know you're an elim, and you know we know you're an elim. At least I don't think I can get much advantage from a case like this...
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 You can, in theory. I... think it's happened. Rae in LG21, maybe? I think there has to be a better example, though... More practically, you can try? Should be entertaining. IKYKs are such fun. How's this: I promise that I will answer every question you have truthfully. I will not answer every question (do I get to use PAFO cards even though I'm not a GM? :D), but every question I do answer I'll do truthfully. Care to play?
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Ok, that is an acceptable game, on the condition that if you do lie we consider that a forfeit on your part. (Please state whether you accept those terms.) And let's even make it reciprocal: After each question you answer (not "PAFO"), you can ask a question of me, on the same terms. (Though I will be unavailable for the next hour or so, starting soon.) To start: Please name three living characters who are not Hushlanders. EDIT: (Also, if you're not going to answer a question, please say so so that I can ask the next.) Edited May 16, 2017 by Yitzi2
Elbereth she/her Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 Seriously. I won't lie. I already promised that. And what gain, exactly, do I get from asking you questions? I have no need to know. I cannot win regardless, and there's not really anything I don't know currently. Also, that's not a question. Try again.
Yitzi2 Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Ok: Am I a Hushlander? EDIT: (Also, I know that lying in an SE game is allowed; are promises different?) Edited May 16, 2017 by Yitzi2
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