Benefits of Multiple Magic Systems

[Pagerunner he/him]

21 hours ago, Yata said:

We know they may affect metalmind. I think you may discharge a metalmind only if the subject is tapping/storing in the metamind in that moment but there is no an actual proof.
Much more Invested metal "consumes" more Chromium to be leeched (Investiture's Interference) so it's possible a Chromium Misting thought to have removed all the problems while there are still charge in him.

Can you go into more detail, maybe with sources, about the interaction between Chromium Allomancy and metalminds. I seem to recall seeing a WoB that said a Leecher wouldn't be able to drain a metalmind's stores, which is what you seem to be saying. I'll try and look it up later.

[Yata he/him]

1 hour ago, Pagerunner said:

Can you go into more detail, maybe with sources, about the interaction between Chromium Allomancy and metalminds. I seem to recall seeing a WoB that said a Leecher wouldn't be able to drain a metalmind's stores, which is what you seem to be saying. I'll try and look it up later.

I will try, for now I can only cite a WoB I remember (of course not the actual wording):

Chromium Allomancy may leech Metalmind, but Invested metal is more hard to affect. Therefore a Leecher would consume before the mundane metal (I think the question was about a Compounder) and only then the metalmind...of course a Leecher may consume all his Chromium before the metalminds are completelly empty/destroyed.

Now I put myself to search the actual WoB

[The One Who Connects he/him]

55 minutes ago, Pagerunner said:

Can you go into more detail, maybe with sources, about the interaction between Chromium Allomancy and metalminds. I seem to recall seeing a WoB that said a Leecher wouldn't be able to drain a metalmind's stores, which is what you seem to be saying. I'll try and look it up later.

Here's One (May 22nd, 2015)

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in the signing line, I asked the question about chromium vs a Compounder with both invested and uninvested metals in both their stomach and piercings.

Brandon Sanderson

1) Yes, the piercings will get burned off.

2) The noninvested metals go before the invested ones. He said that because invested metals are harder to effect, it takes a little extra time and effort to get them to burn off. So a Leecher trying to clean out a Compounder would have to get a good grip and hang on for a few seconds.

3) Chromium burns about as quickly as duralumin, so if you're trying to burn off a lot of metals, it is possible to run out of chromium before your target is clean. This would probably only be an issue when dealing with larger pieces (like jewelry) rather than your standard metal-flakes-in-the-stomach deal.

And Here's Two (Feb 17th, 2016)

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Could a Leecher take away stores in a metalmind?

Brandon Sanderson

You’ll have to find out. That’s a RAFO.

I will say that I remember hearing somewhere that this could be done, but only if they were actively tapping the metalmind when it happened, but i cannot find it at the moment.

I found the WoB @Yata, but you ninja'd my response.

[Yata he/him]

Thanks @The One Who Connects, I may skip the WoB hunt.

I come quite close to the right wording, good. I have to be honest, I don't think I never read about "only when tapped/stored" but I think is the logic link for how the metallic arts seems to work.

An allomancer (or a regular guy) doesn't lost all his metal object when a Leecher touches it. THis mean A-Chromium needs "more" to access them. Like a Connection through the "subject".

Of course this may be wrong but it seems likely to me. For example I don't think a Leecher may destroy with a touch a knife or any other object.

[Pagerunner he/him]

Thanks for the quotes @The One Who Connects, that clarifies the situation for me. I thought @Yata was saying that a Leecher had to first deplete the Feruchemical potential before depleting the Allomantic potential of the metals. But it's not quite that, it's that the depletion of the Allomantic potential (for which the metal needs to be ingested or piercing the skin) goes slower because the Investiture associated with Feruchemy is interfering with the Leecher's actions. Subtle, but important.

As for the second, I'm pretty sure Brandon's 2015 AMA (which I've been reading through for an unrelated reason) has an answer about this topic, but the AMA was only partially captured in Theoryland. (Brandon kept coming back to it over a couple of months, and at some point nobody kept on updating the Theoryland entry for it.) I don't have my notes with me, but I'll get a chance to check later today if no one else has taken a look by then.

[Oversleep]

I think the case with Leecher cleaning a Compounder is like Miles' case - metalminds piercing flesh. Since anything in organism can be burned (so theoretically Inquisitors could burn their spikes) then it means that Leecher is making his victim destroy anything accessible Allomantically.

[Yata he/him]

55 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

I think the case with Leecher cleaning a Compounder is like Miles' case - metalminds piercing flesh. Since anything in organism can be burned (so theoretically Inquisitors could burn their spikes) then it means that Leecher is making his victim destroy anything accessible Allomantically.

Yes but I am unsure Inquisitors will be able to burn their Spikes...for the problem of Identity matching

EDIT:

Now I think about....It's a bit complex, usually Hemalurgy has a chance to take with it some of the victim's identity (if the Spike isn't too deteriorate). So the outcome will be...strange.

Vin itself didn't burn her Spike with Alluminium

Edited February 6, 2017 by Yata

[Spoolofwhool]

Okay. I see what you were saying Yata. I guess they didn't have a leecher go on Miles or at least didn't for long enough to burn away his metalminds. 

Regarding hemalurgic spikes and identity, there was a WoB about the identity of the spike needing to match the allomancer so it could very burned.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

4 hours ago, Pagerunner said:

As for the second, I'm pretty sure Brandon's 2015 AMA (which I've been reading through for an unrelated reason) has an answer about this topic, but the AMA was only partially captured in Theoryland.

If by "the second" you mean my link number two(leeching metalminds), I just looked through the whole thing, and didn't find anything definitive on the subject. Lots of other fascinating tidbits though.

Edit: Wow, did I really start perusing it 4 hours ago?

Edited February 6, 2017 by The One Who Connects

[Jofwu he/him]

On 2/3/2017 at 3:03 PM, Khyrindor said:

I saw a theory I really liked about Wayne's Resonance recently, that it might be some form of immortality.

This is such a fantastic theory! I'm skeptical about completely immortal... but a remarkably long lifespan is good enough for me. Makes a lot of sense, and it would be a perfect way for him and MeLaan to work out better.

[Jofwu he/him]

On 2/3/2017 at 3:03 PM, Khyrindor said:

I saw a theory I really liked about Wayne's Resonance recently, that it might be some form of immortality.

This is such a fantastic theory! I'm skeptical about completely immortal... but a remarkably long lifespan is good enough for me. Makes a lot of sense, and it would be a perfect way for him and MeLaan to work out better.

[Weltall]

18 hours ago, The One Who Connects said:

If by "the second" you mean my link number two(leeching metalminds), I just looked through the whole thing, and didn't find anything definitive on the subject. Lots of other fascinating tidbits though.

Edit: Wow, did I really start perusing it 4 hours ago?

Don't be alarmed, you're just suffering from Sandersobibliomania. It causes you to lose track of time while reading Brandon's books and browsing the transcripts of signings and interviews.