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Theory on how to kill the Lord Ruler without removing his metal-minds


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Posted
9 minutes ago, The One Who Connects said:

Really? I must've missed that revelation.

On a side note, I thought that only his Atium bracers pierced the skin, as Vin could push/pull on his jewelry during their fight (and learning why that's a bad idea :)) It's a trivial difference at this point, since having one ring among many piercing the skin is something Vin would never notice in that situation.

There's a WoB that chromium would destroy the target's piercings as well, so I'm assuming that means that they count as a burnable metal reserve at that point.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

There's a WoB that chromium would destroy the target's piercings as well, so I'm assuming that means that they count as a burnable metal reserve at that point.

I am unsure but I think this would happen only if the piercing is integrated/connected to the Soul Aspect of the target, the same with the metal in the stomach. But the Metal in stomach is always see as integrated for an allomancer for the own Allomantic default rules.

So I think you may drain a Metalmind with Chromium if you are actually tapping it (but it take time) or if you are so attached to it to be "spiritual connected"

Posted
53 minutes ago, Yata said:

I am unsure but I think this would happen only if the piercing is integrated/connected to the Soul Aspect of the target, the same with the metal in the stomach. But the Metal in stomach is always see as integrated for an allomancer for the own Allomantic default rules.

So I think you may drain a Metalmind with Chromium if you are actually tapping it (but it take time) or if you are so attached to it to be "spiritual connected"

No, the paraphrased WoB on the matter seems to be indicating that piercings in general can be destroyed by it. Nothing indicated that it had to be a metalmind and you had to be tapping it during that time.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

No, the paraphrased WoB on the matter seems to be indicating that piercings in general can be destroyed by it. Nothing indicated that it had to be a Metalmind and you had to be tapping it during that time.

I remember a different WoB on a similar note, which I believe may have been about leeching a non-piercing Metalmind, like Sazed's jewelry. That, they would have to be actively tapping for it to be leeched.

On the subject of Chromium affecting piercings: Since it burns "target's entire metal reserves" wouldn't that mean that using Duralumin + Steel should burn any Steel piercings you have since they both affect your "entire reserve of said metal(s)"?

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Posted

I found said revelation from earlier.

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Would a Mistborn have to worry about accidentally burning her copper IUD?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes she would, absolutely (Laughs)

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[Necarion's note: this confirms that metal does not have to be in the stomach to be burned]

It doesn't say piercings specifically, but the concept is there.

Also, in case it hadn't been expressly stated in this thread yet, you do in fact store all the powers individually.

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Necarion

The compounding trick that the Lord Ruler performed. When you’re storing investiture, are you storing your ‘mistborn-ness’ or all the powers individually?

Brandon Sanderson

All of the powers individually.
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Just chiming in: that Lashing TLR to outer space thing wouldn't work. Lashing scales with mass and we do actually have a WoB that (I believe) confirms that you can dump your weight in ironmind and utilise a very cheap Lashing so TLR could just overtap iron.

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, cometaryorbit said:

Re burning piercings: why doesn't Vin vaporize her spike? Does she never burn duralumin with bronze, even testing it?

First of all, She never use Durallumin with Bronze (i think is really useless) and much more Durallumin would be unable to burn your own Spike/metalmind if you don't want.

A Mistborn is burning X Metal, He want to performe Durallumin-Micheal-Bay-Feat with that metal, so He burns Duralluminium. With a huge flow of power (Explosion in the background) all the uninvested X metal vanish from his stomach in a couple of istants. He stops to burn Duralluminium, the Metalmind/Spike is safe because it's invested and harder to affect, so before mundane metal and only then Invested metal (starting from the less Invested...So Spikes).

EDIT: I just notice something weird in my previous answer. Durallumin can't affect Spikes at all because you have to be capable of accessing to that metal and Spike (unless they are made from yourself's soul....weird but I don't judge) for Identity's Interference. My points remain for some sadist Allomancer but in generally you can't burn Spikes in your body with Duralluminium

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39 minutes ago, Yata said:

First of all, She never use Durallumin with Bronze (i think is really useless) and much more Durallumin would be unable to burn your own Spike/metalmind if you don't want.

A Mistborn are burning X Metal, He want to performe Durallumin-Micheal-Bay-Feat with that metal, so He burns Duralluminium. With a huge flow of power (Explosion in the background) all the uninvested X metal vanish from his stomach in a couple of istants. He stops to burn Duralluminium, the Metalmind/Spike is safe because it's invested and harder to affect, so before mundane metal and only then Invested metal (starting from the less Invested...So Spikes).

EDIT: I just notice something weird in my previous answer. Durallumin can't affect Spikes at all because you have to be capable of accessing to that metal and Spike (unless they are made from yourself's soul....weird but I don't judge) for Identity's Interference. My points remain for some sadist Allomancer but in generally you can't burn Spikes in your body with Duralluminium

Yes she does, she uses it in WoA to detect emotional allomancy Chapter 20.

Also, Brandon has gone back and forth a bit on whether it is possible/what would happen if you burn a spike made from someone else.
Most recent that I'm aware of is that it is possible and would splice your sDNA which would have 'consequences'

Posted
1 minute ago, Voidus said:

Yes she does, she uses it in WoA to detect emotional allomancy Chapter 20.

Also, Brandon has gone back and forth a bit on whether it is possible/what would happen if you burn a spike made from someone else.
Most recent that I'm aware of is that it is possible and would splice your sDNA which would have 'consequences'

Yes but the newest WoB point to "you need a Spike made by your own soul" (or Identity free)...I honestly didn't remember thar Duralluminium use. Sorry

Posted
23 minutes ago, Yata said:

Yes but the newest WoB point to "you need a Spike made by your own soul" (or Identity free)...I honestly didn't remember thar Duralluminium use. Sorry

Which WoB is that? As far as I know he said something like that in 2009 then in 2011 changed to say it was possible and would splice your sDNA.

Posted
1 hour ago, Voidus said:

Which WoB is that? As far as I know he said something like that in 2009 then in 2011 changed to say it was possible and would splice your sDNA.

Unluckly I can't find it, but there is another more recent WoB on the "burning spike" topic, He didn't say what would happen when you actually burn it, but only that burning Spike is a weird thing because you have to match the Spike's Idenitity to actually burn it (in the same way of metamind).
If I find again that WoB, I will post it...but for now no result

  • 1 month later...
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I know it's been a month, but I found something much more definitive about TLR and his healing capacity. Source

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[–]Logic_Nuke 7 points 1 year ago 

I heard you were still answering questions, so:

  1. Could decapitation kill a Gold Compounder? With a guillotine, for example?

  2. Do you have a plan for a central work that would connect the different parts of the Cosmere together (Similar to what The Dark Tower does for Stephen King's books)? Maybe Stormlight or the thrid Mistborn trilogy?

 

[–]mistborn[S] 13 points 1 year ago 

  1. Most forms of extreme cosmere healing don't care much what is done to the physical body, as the person's spiritual template is in power at the time.
  2. Yes, but it is not on a world you have seen.

 

Posted
On 2/8/2017 at 8:23 AM, Faceless Mist-Wraith said:

Does this definitively mean that he can just grow a new head? And if so, does this also apply to any Gold compounder or Feruchemist with enough health?

The WoB only says "Gold Compounder" so it would apply to any. And since Compounding is largely just super boosting the amount of Feruchemical attribute that is stored, if you had enough health, most likely yes.

Additionally, he says most forms of extreme Cosmere healing, so it isn't even limited to just Feruchemy

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