ROSHtaFARian2.0 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I think it's a possible counterpart to the newly named Shard of Ambition. Now I'm thinking the Shard that just wants to hide and survive might be named something along the lines of Caution. In keeping with the theory that the Shards are all divine attributes, if Ambition is the divine urge to create, to do things, to advance....Caution is the divine urge to wait, to use restraint, to not do simply because one can, but to be aware of repercussions, ramifications. And as a singular Shard, without the influence of other divine attributes such as Ambition, Endowment, Cultivation, etc.....a Shard named Caution might simply want to hide and survive, isolating him or herself from the conflicts raging elsewhere throughout the cosmere. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I feel like I remember Brandon saying that wanting to stay back and survive was more a response of seeing what Odium's doing than a facet of the intent. That said, I like the idea of a Shard of Caution. Even if it isn't the "hide and survive" figure, one of the Shards should have an aspect of Caution in it's Intent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSHtaFARian2.0 Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I do remember that WoB as well. I think I need to see its exact phrasing though, because my perception of it was that Brandon was saying that the Shard's Intent wasn't synonymous with hiding or surviving or anything like that, but rather that as you said, 'it wanting to just hide and survive' was in response to what Odium was doing. So I think this still fits, because Caution itself is not synonymous with just hiding or isolating oneself, or prioritizing survival above all. So its not hiding because its Intent is to hide. Its hiding because in light of what Odium is doing, hiding and surviving is the most effective way to act in accordance with its Intent, which is Caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Though I don't necessarily think it's the survival Shard, the first idea that popped into my head after seeing Ambition was a Shard of Prudence or Temperance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenBossanova Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I really wanted it to be Self-Preservation. That would have been a good shard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 she/her Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Since I first heard about the Survival Shard, I have believed the Intent is Hope. Kelsier will Ascend to this shard in Mistborn Era 4. Brandon loves sneaking foreshadowing into his books. Kelsier's last words to TLR was foreshadowing for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknopathetic he/him Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I immediately thought the same thing, but my head-cannon for the shard was 'Security'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Here's the quote (I have it in my bookmarks, since this topic comes up quite a bit): Quote I asked if the Shard that just wants to survive has something like the intent of fear. Brandon replied that that shard's intent is only tangentially related to what's going on. That shard is well aware of what is n going on in the Cosmere, and is smart enough to try and just get away from it all. Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzgrob Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Since I first heard about the Survival Shard I've thought it was Kelsier. With an intent being something like Desire. Kelsiers overwhelming want to survive and the mixture of the shards intent leading him to flee/hide. Though the main problem with Kelsier being the shard is, it's very hard to imagine him not trying to interfere constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfun Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 "Autonomy's policy of isolationism in recent times"(Arkanum Unbound|Brandon Sanderson) This quote seems to make it clear that Autonomy is the shard that just wants to hide and Survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSHtaFARian2.0 Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, hellfun said: "Autonomy's policy of isolationism in recent times"(Arkanum Unbound|Brandon Sanderson) This quote seems to make it clear that Autonomy is the shard that just wants to hide and Survive. Not at all. Because that same quote goes on to say that her isolationism in regards to Taldain is at odds with her interference in other worlds, which is definitely not characteristic of just wanting to hide and survive, or stay out of what's going on in the cosmere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthorp25 he/him Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 11/24/2016 at 1:57 PM, thegatorgirl00 said: Since I first heard about the Survival Shard, I have believed the Intent is Hope. Kelsier will Ascend to this shard in Mistborn Era 4. Brandon loves sneaking foreshadowing into his books. Kelsier's last words to TLR was foreshadowing for this. Oh my god i hope you are right. That would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARARITA he/him Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 how about a shard named Patience - seems like a divine attribute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) On 11/24/2016 at 4:57 PM, thegatorgirl00 said: Since I first heard about the Survival Shard, I have believed the Intent is Hope. Kelsier will Ascend to this shard in Mistborn Era 4. Brandon loves sneaking foreshadowing into his books. Kelsier's last words to TLR was foreshadowing for this. Though Kell does not seem that interested in ascending again... It would be fitting though. Especially if he does it for a totally selfless reason. Edited November 27, 2016 by Kingsdaughter613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmann966 he/him Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/26/2016 at 8:52 AM, ARARITA said: how about a shard named Patience - seems like a divine attribute Trepidation? We don't have a Shard for "Fear" or "Worry" yet... While Patience and Hope seem a good fit, so many of these are, what I'd call, "Noble" attributes. Preservation, Endowment, Devotion, Honor, Cultivation... On the flip side we have Hatred, Ruin, Dominion, And the inbetweens of Ambition, Autonomy, etc... I feel like we're due for another "ugly" Shard. One that isn't such a sunny spot in the Cosmere... Something like Fear or Despair, maybe even Anguish or the big daddy itself, Oblivion/Nothingness. Just my speculation, and of course it only obeys false-averages, since we technically have 6 more to go. So it's just a "Think we're about due for..." thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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