Long Game 28: The Awakening at the House on the Hill

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

Bruuhh you all trusted Wilson b4 and daniyah was just a villager

Billy refused to take part in this chaos

[Seonid he/him]

29 minutes ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

Bruuhh you all trusted Wilson b4 and daniyah was just a villager

Billy refused to take part in this chaos

Meh. The circumstances around this accusation are much different. If the evidence Wilson had presented was the same that she presented for Dani, then I would be much more reticent to jump on the lynch train. But this is an accusation based on a scan. Hael could be right - there could be items out there that mess with scans, or change another player's target without their knowledge. But the simplest explanation is often the best.

[little wilson she/her]

Khaos glanced at Billy. "Sheon's right. The evidence against Yiferian was circumstantial. There's actual evidence against Professor Hae." While a number of people had known she'd thought Hae was a Traitor, only three had known she was planning on following him last night. Sheon, Aon, and the person who had given her the Tin. She knew nothing of Feruchemical bracers and nothing that would confuse her as to what she had seen. In fact, she knew for a fact that it was Hae that she had seen (the result of action said that I saw Haelbarde kill someone, as opposed to just seeing a killing action with no mention of who did it). Even if there was some way for a person to make her think she saw something that didn't happen, the only way it would work is if the person had also followed Hae. Which would mean that they'd either have to have known that she was following him burning Tin or that they'd just guessed that she would. The odds of either of those being the case was slim, because those who knew she was following him knew that he was her top suspect of being a Traitor. They'd have no reason to frame him because even if she hadn't seen him kill someone, she still would've thought he was a Traitor. And as Hae had already mentioned, who would've guessed that she'd follow him of all the possibilities?

No, it was far more likely that he was indeed a Traitor and he had indeed killed Quintus. Khaos had accused Hae, and while he'd been around (Hael was on Discord for a good few hours before he'd responded, and I'm near-certain I'd seen him on the site within 2 hours of my post accusing him), he hadn't said anything for hours. Six, to be exact. That's a long time to wait, if you're innocent. The day before, when Khaos had accused Yiferian, Yiferian had also been around, and she had immediately replied, though her response hadn't assuaged Khaos' suspicion of her. In Hae's case, it looked more like he was trying to compose a good cover story to explain away his action. But if he was truly framed, one would think he'd know that Khaos herself wasn't to blame for the framing, but that she herself had been deceived in it. That the framing was meant to make her think he was a Traitor. One would think he would state what his action last night had really been, if not killing Quintus (and while he said he found a Medical Fabrial, he also said he found a bracer, and he couldn't have found both last night. I don't think he found either last night because I don't think he was exploring. I think he was killing Quintus and is throwing out the Medical Fabrial and bracer as a way to say "Oh hey look at these useful things I found; I can't have killed Quintus because look how helpful I could be!"). But he hadn't. He'd implied that she, Khaos, was framing him and knew that he was innocent.

---

While I could see Dani not mentioning certain things right off the bat--like that someone had told her that I was the Mistborn before she contacted me--Hael's been around for longer and he's seen many, many different gambits. He's seen many villagers deceived, numerous mislynches, and plenty of accusations. He would know that there are a few possible reasons that I could've been claiming that result. One is that he had really killed Jon. The second is that someone was intentionally confusing me to make me think that he killed someone (which would mean that I am not a Traitor, since they're trying to deceive me/the person making the accusation). The third is that I am complicit in the deception and am framing him. This last one is the least likely for me to do, and villager!Hael knows this. Even when I'm evil, I'm as honest as I can be. When I'm evil, I don't do insane gambits like....oh, I don't know...claiming that someone killed someone they didn't kill while knowing that they're innocent, in an attempt to get them lynched, knowing that when they're shown to be innocent, I will look guilty, right after I've been recently attacked and gotten another villager lynched for that attack.

No, Villager!Hael would guess that it was second option, since he would know that he didn't actually kill Jon, and he would throw out the idea of obfuscating/shielding actions/items like (potentially) Feruchemy (since we don't actually know what it does right now--I didn't even know Feruchemical items were in the game until Jon's death) right off the bat, rather than trying to cast suspicion on me, which the second option doesn't work with. Eliminator!Hael wants me dead, though. Obviously. He had me attacked two nights ago, and I already have a pretty good idea of exactly how he guessed that I was the Mistborn (I don't think he knew for certain, but I think he knew there was a very good chance that I was, and he couldn't risk a possible VillageMistborn!Wilson running around so he tried to have me killed, even though he hadn't wanted to kill me since I have a habit of dying often and early). Eliminator!Hael wouldn't want other villagers to think that I was being deceived by the Traitors--since that would mean they could trust me and a Wilson who holds a lot of information gives Eliminator!Hael nightmares of LG14--so he would open with the most damning option, hoping that it would get people wondering and thinking. Kind of like how he mentioned the mindgaming and people being wary and suspicious of me during the last day cycle. I'm me. I expect people to be wary of me. The reputation that I hate causes people to be naturally wary of me. And that's fine. In a game of manipulation, lying and deception, it's good to be wary of players. But when someone emphasizes that wariness, about something that I know I'm not lying about--particularly when it's someone who has a good idea of the way I play--it makes me wonder what their motive is. I already mentioned that, and I hold to it.

Hael's been saying very subtly suspicious things for a while now and my suspicion of him has been building. If this were past!Wilson, I'd go through the game pulling up all of his posts and analyze each and every one of them, writing an essay detailing exactly what suspicious things he's said and why they are suspicious, and even throwing out ideas of what he could be trying to get us to think with those things and do. How he's trying to manipulate us. But this is a Wilson how doesn't wish to spend that much time on the game, so I shan't be doing that. I'd much rather get back to my sappy Christmas romance movies anyway (I swear I'm turning into my mother and my sister >> ). So there are my thoughts. Take them for what you will.

[Haelbarde he/him]

Albert was in a bit of pickle. There’s gotta be someway out of here…  He thought to himself. There’s too much confusion, and I can can’t seem to get any relief. Attacks on all side left his prognosis grim. Why wouldn’t they just listen!? He took a deep breath and let it out slowly, picking a tune to let run through his head to calm him. What could he do? Then it came to him. He was a professor, well use to writing papers, or speeches. He would prepare a speech, and deliver his case. I’ll write my way out. I’ll write everything down as far as I can see it. He picked up a pen, and begun to write. 

Hours later, he emerged with a stack of papers. “Hear ye, hear ye. I’ve something I’d like to say to you all.”

---

First off, responding to a few points from Wilson’s last post. You bring up the fact that it took me 6 hours to respond. End of cycle is 7:30 am for me. Wilson’s post appeared at 8:45am. I think I saw the post maybe 45 minutes later? Thing is, being in Australia, it was Sunday morning for me, and from around 9:30 I was running around getting ready for our weekly religious gathering. This meant that by the time I was home with time free to think about the game, it was more like 2pm. 

Also, I don’t think I was clear. I found an Ancient Medical Fabrial Night 4, which is what I used last night. While I knew Allomancy was in the game, having found my lerasium-brass alloy N0, I wasn’t sure if feruchemy was in the game. I suspected it might, as Feruchemical steel seems like the most likely thing for a thief, given they’ve been able to steal at least 3 things. The bracer I was referring to was the one that Jondesu dropped in the writeup. 

When I read your post accusing me of killing Jondesu, my initial thought was that you were attempting a Herowannabe-esque poke vote to see how I’d react to throwing suspicion on me. I guess I did suggest it was a framing attempt but I wasn’t seriously considering that possibility at the time.  It seems like I should be more careful about conveying my thoughts… That’s twice now you’ve taken something away from my posts that wasn’t the intended point. :/

One last thing before I launch into my thoughts on what you’re doing. Given you’ve gone and brought up LG14, does that mean we’ll end up parodying?

Anyway, here’s my case. First off, do we have any proof that Wilson found Lerasium, and is now mistborn? The only reason I was accepting that was I had been reading her as village up to this point. Given I’ve now revised that opinion, I’m no longer willing to accept that at face value. So the question is, could Wilson’s actions be those of an eliminator?

I’d say that she’s done maybe 4 things of note: 

• Form a trust group with Seonid, El, Aonar, plus maybe Doc?
• Caused the lynch of 2 villagers (Elenion and Daniyah)
• Claimed to be mistborn
• Claimed to have scanned me as killing Jondesu

She was able to start PM conversations with people she’s worked with before during N0, when no one was an eliminator, or during N1 when there were only two. People are overly trusting in one-on-one conversations in PMs, particularly if the other person if the other person trusts you by sharing their own information. And particularly the first night, you could be confident that anyone you talked with in PM wasn’t an eliminator, and even then, on the second night, we also had the security of knowing there were only 2 eliminators in the game. Usually we have to guess how many, with the assumption that there’s usually around 20% of the players who are evil. You’re much more likely to be trusting of someone who you’ve been talking to in a PM, particularly if they’re fun to talk to (which Wilson usually is). The problem is this game is conversion based, meaning you have to reevaluate who you trust whenever a conversion happens. Having a group of people who trust you isn’t eliminatory, but it’s a valuable asset for an eliminator to have. More on that later. As far as the people has been publicly working with (Aonar, El, Seonid, and Doc?), I’d probably assume that only one of them might be an eliminator. It’s seems unlikely that all of the people Wilson was talking with just happened to get turned, and if Wilson was an early convert (which I think’s likely), it’s more valuable to surround yourself with villagers who trust you. 

Having something of a trust group, she then claimed to have lerasium (which seems to be the most powerful find thus far, mind you), employing Aonar and El as proxies to try and collect vials of metal for her to use. I mean, it makes sense right? You have all these players with vials of metal, and no lerasium, and you have a mistborn who has no vials. But claiming mistborn, and getting players to pass you vials is just as good an idea for an eliminator. Everyone can only do one action per cycle, and passing an item is an action. Getting villagers to use their action to pass their items to Wilson means that they aren’t using their action to explore, which now that we’ve seemingly reached the expected number of eliminators (there haven’t been any omens for the last 2 nights), means that exploring only benefits the villagers by finding useful items. The other benefit is also obvious - the eliminators get gifted items from the village. 

But why would she make a risky claim about me being Jondesu’s killer if it’s not true? There’s a few reasons why she might. In LG15b, if I recall correctly, she feared that she was going to be caught out, or scanned (it was Alvron she was paranoid of at the time, I think). She made a plan with Burnt, where she would sacrifice herself so help put Burnt in a position of trust in the village. I’m pretty sure it paid off - Burnt survived most of the game having been the scanner to catch Wilson. I could see her attempting a risky play to have some fun (and she’s not too concerned dying provided it’s not early, I think), particularly if she thought that there was a good chance of it putting her team in a favourable position in a few cycles. And I think the eliminators will be in a favourable position, even if Wilson gets lynched next cycle. We have 24 players still alive. We have 6 players I’d regard as inactive, I think (although I should probably double check): Clanky, Jefry, Nathan, PK, Polking, Chaos. Let’s say one of those is an eliminator. That leaves us with 19 active players, 5 of which are eliminators, so the teams are basically 5:14, or 6:14, if the inactive is just lurking. That’s 4 mislynches to even teams. Just 3 mislynches puts us in dangerous territory, if some of the low actives, like Straw or Mark are still alive and don’t turn up. So how does Wilson get her mislynches? Well, first one is easy - this cycle, she can pick almost anyone to throw suspicion on, given she’d be in theory be able to scan with the tin vial she had received, and most people would go along with it. In this scenario, I’m chosen because we’ve not interacted much this game, and she is able to point to some of my posts to throw suspicion on me. This does throw a lot of suspicion on her next cycle, but even then, she’s lead the lynch on two villagers already and she still has the village’s support. I’m not entirely convinced she wouldn’t be able to get out of the lynch, given they’d also have killed another player during the night turn. But even if she dies, the focus is now going to be on her allies. I’d expect most of them to be village, and there’d be a good chance one of them would get lynched the following cycle, giving Wilson her 2nd mislynch. Another night cycle, another vocal player dead. The eliminators still need another mislynch or two, but the focus has been off any eliminator for 3 full cycles, and there’s the possibility of still being suspicion on a number of villagers too. I very much doubt the eliminators would have all that much trouble getting their 3rd mislynch, if any low actives go inactive, the village no longer really has that good a chance.

---

Sorry for the length of my post, but I think most of it was necessary. It's my best working theory for the moment, anyway. So, Wilson, I guess.

[little wilson she/her]

I have a vial of mixed metals right now. If I'm wrong about Hael, I'll use the steel tonight to kill myself. How's that for putting all my eggs in one basket?

[Aonar he/him]

Unfortunately there's no easy way to IC this, so I'm breaking character.

...?  While I wasn't terribly suspicious of Wilson, now I am. When exactly did you get a mixed metal vial, and from whom? That whole statement feels ridiculously out of character. While I feel like a sympathy/appeal to illogic ploy along those lines is unusual for evil!Wilson as well, now I'm confused.

As for you, Hael... The only known stolen items have been metallic, and that feels like a trend to me. (In regards to Feruchemical steel Thief.) Otherwise... your argument feels strange. Bits of it aren't quite pulling together for me. Not all of it is directly relevant, and it feels written in such a way as to make Wilson look more suspicious than her actions completely warrant. However, as stated, I don't completely trust Wilson, and some of her comments this cycle have felt strange to me as well. So... I'll be watching. My vote may change before the end of the day.

[little wilson she/her]

I got the mixed metal vial last night when El passed it to me. Wonko passed it to her the night before last. And I'm not appealing to sympathy or anything like that. I'm confident enough in Hael's guilt that if he is not evil, I'm clearly hurting the village more than helping it, so my death is necessary if the village wants to win. If Hael is good, all I'm doing is leading the village astray. So I kill myself so you don't have to take the time to lynch me. If I'm evil, I won't kill myself, obviously, and then you lynch me during the day. Done. When I said I was throwing all my eggs in one basket, I meant it.

There's vote manipulation that's been used in previous lynches. We cannot afford to let the lynch get close. Right now, Hael is trying to persuade the villagers to lynch me. He's trying to get the vote close enough so his team can manipulate it and either cause a tie or kill me. I'm trying to stop that from happening by saying that if he's good, you don't have to worry about killing me because I will do it myself.

[Doc12]

Frost finally cleared his throat, after that long silence. 

"Hello." He said, tentatively. "Yes, I'm speaking again."

He looked around the room. "I don't know what to think of Khaos. I want to believe that she is innocent, and that she is helping us. The deaths of Yiferien and Isaac she partly takes the blame for, I admit. And so I will trust her this time and vote for Haelbarde. As she has said, if she is wrong about him this time, she will be fully confirmed as a traitor to our group, and she will be dead tomorrow." 

He looked slowly at each person. "However, if the Professor does turn out to be a traitor, I hope that Khaos is protected tonight again. The professor claims to have been the one protecting Khaos the night before. I would like to know if there are any who would like to contest this claim." 

He turned back to the professor, "I acknowledge the validity of your suspicions, your projections of how we may mislynch, and how Khaos might have been fooling us. I have to say, I was pretty skeptical myself that Khaos just happened to scan the right person making the kill. It seems a great chance. However, after listening to both of your arguments, the only counter-argument that holds water is that Khaos is deliberately trying to frame the professor. I'm not a fan of the two of you speaking of your characters outside this house, as I feel that they have no bearing on our current situation."

"So yes, right now there are three possibilities. Khaos is evil and the Professor is innocent, in which case they will both be dead by the next day, since she has revealed her true colors, and the Professor will be avenged. Secondly, that Khaos is innocent and the professor is evil, in which case she will be fully vindicated, that is, until an Omen is found again. Lastly is the fact that they might both be villagers, and that Khaos was fooled, but as she has already pointed out, that possibility is not very likely unless this deceptor was not part of her trust group and just happened to guess she would be using Tin tonight. Either way, an eliminator will die through the results of this lynch, and that is why I voted for the Professor."

He gave a sheepish smile. "I am sorry for voting so late. I confess i had been waiting to see if any lines would form, if there were any who would defend the professor, and who would be the ones to support Khaos. I have been disappointed by this. I then realized I myself was contributing to the silence, and thus I am speaking now to stir discussion. It would have been safer for me not to speak, perhaps, but speaking in a meta way, that hasn't been fun for the last few cycles, as it has been too quiet, and I would like us all to speak and have fun this game."

He frowned. "What else did I have to say? Ah yes. I notice that no Omens had been found the previous two nights, and I'm glad for it. Provided the Professor is a traitor, we are still in a very good position to destroy the House. As long as the each of us remain active, we have a chance. Thus I am going to try to wake some of our sleeping friends.  @Wonko the Sane, @Bugsy6912, @Paranoid King, @Clanky, @Unodus, @Nyali, @OrlokTsubodai, How are you doing? Friend Locke, have you caught up with the days?"

He turned to the person next to him, Khaos' little shadow. "Kresla? Do you have anything to say?" @Elbereth 

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

The fact that so many people jumped on the bandwagon to lynch haelbard on Wilson's sayso is troubling. Goes to show how much power veterens have. If I did somethinhpg like that, people would instantly be suspicious of me and saybthat I'm crying wolf.

So how about we wait till tomorrow? If haelbard is an elim, (Wilson can scan him again tonight) then it will be in his best interests to kill Wilson amirite? If he isn't then we know that Wilson is crying wolf

[Doc12]

Frost raised an eyebrow at Billy's outburst. Looking around, and seeing no one beginning to respond, he sighed and cleared his throat again."Firstly, there is a reason why veterans seem to have so much power. Look at Khaos' accusations, and your own accusations of Nathan a day ago. Khaos explained in great detail what she did to find the professor suspicious, and why she is accusing him. When the professor responded, she was able to counter-argue and successfully convince me to trust her points for now. You, on the other hand, called out Nathan with little to no reasoning, and backed down fairly quickly at the first sign of an argument. Do you see why she is more trusted?"

He paused to give Billy an icy glare. "Secondly, you say you want to wait until tomorrow. What would you suggest then, friend? Refuse to lynch anyone today? Would you be able to provide a person who is more suspicious, with grounded reasons that you can argue for? If not, we would have simply wasted today. Your suggestions seems to be 'wait one night to see if Khaos is killed by the eliminators to know if the Professor is evil'. I don't see that as a good suggestion. Not only do we lose a day where we could have lynched a traitor, we would lose a powerful village role."

His explanation done, he gave the boy a curious glance. "Lastly, I'm surprised that you're still taking an interest in the affairs of this house, given that you said that you had no idea what was going on barely a few days ago. I assume that you have caught up with what's happening now, in which case could I trouble you to explain what you've learnt?"

@Mesa the Ookla

[JUQ he/him]

1 hour ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

If I did somethinhpg like that, people would instantly be suspicious of me and saybthat I'm crying wolf.

Yeah, but it would be justified. Mind you, Wilson isn't very trustworthy too, but it's hard not to follow someone with a stylized jar of nutella on her profile .

[Unodus he/him]

-doc y u gotta be poking me when I've already made a post this cycle?

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

1 hour ago, Doc12 said:

Frost raised an eyebrow at Billy's outburst. Looking around, and seeing no one beginning to respond, he sighed and cleared his throat again."Firstly, there is a reason why veterans seem to have so much power. Look at Khaos' accusations, and your own accusations of Nathan a day ago. Khaos explained in great detail what she did to find the professor suspicious, and why she is accusing him. When the professor responded, she was able to counter-argue and successfully convince me to trust her points for now. You, on the other hand, called out Nathan with little to no reasoning, and backed down fairly quickly at the first sign of an argument. Do you see why she is more trusted?"

He paused to give Billy an icy glare. "Secondly, you say you want to wait until tomorrow. What would you suggest then, friend? Refuse to lynch anyone today? Would you be able to provide a person who is more suspicious, with grounded reasons that you can argue for? If not, we would have simply wasted today. Your suggestions seems to be 'wait one night to see if Khaos is killed by the eliminators to know if the Professor is evil'. I don't see that as a good suggestion. Not only do we lose a day where we could have lynched a traitor, we would lose a powerful village role."

His explanation done, he gave the boy a curious glance. "Lastly, I'm surprised that you're still taking an interest in the affairs of this house, given that you said that you had no idea what was going on barely a few days ago. I assume that you have caught up with what's happening now, in which case could I trouble you to explain what you've learnt?"

@Mesa the OoklaOokla

No no no, I meant before wilson gave her explanation, 2 people jumped on "trusting" Wilson's words

[Haelbarde he/him]

Something bugged Albert Hae. Amongst all the accusations and warnings to her 'friends', Khaos made the claim that someone was forcibly changing peoples minds on who they were suspicious of. But the professor had not noticed any evidence for this. Fortunately, someone had been taking meticulous notes on the goings on of the last week, so he was able to trawl through the data to verify this claim. Working backwards, he became more and more confused. He could find no evidence of any changes. Finally, he reached the notes of their first day after getting stuck in here, and he found it! Aralis had made been suspicious of Quintus, yet no mention of it had been made in the summary for that day. This must have been it! But the professor didn't want to take it at face value. He knew all to well the dangers of getting too excited about a discovery, only to find out an error had been made. So he did his due diligence to verify if the record was indeed accurate. It was just as well too, as it turned out to be a clerical oversight. This left him a bit put out with Khaos, more than before. "Was that your evidence? Maybe it would pay to check your work..."

---

I hadn't actually noticed any vote manipulation during the game, so Wilson's claim that it had happened was news to me! I went through and checked all the vote tallies, and the only discrepancy I could find was that Araris' vote on Jondesu was omitted from the write-up's vote tally, from the Day 1 lynch. I asked Wyrm to confirm if it's omission was intentional or not, and he told me that it was a mistake and the vote should have appeared in that write-up.

@Wyrmhero I don't suppose you could drop in confirm the detail about Araris' vote on Jondesu?

Edited December 12, 2016 by Haelbarde

[Seonid he/him]

3 hours ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

The fact that so many people jumped on the bandwagon to lynch haelbard on Wilson's sayso is troubling. Goes to show how much power veterens have. If I did somethinhpg like that, people would instantly be suspicious of me and saybthat I'm crying wolf.

So how about we wait till tomorrow? If haelbard is an elim, (Wilson can scan him again tonight) then it will be in his best interests to kill Wilson amirite? If he isn't then we know that Wilson is crying wolf

No, if you came up and claimed that you had a scan ability or item and had find someone evil using it, I'd jump on the lynch just as easily. I take scanners seriously unless they give me a reason to mistrust them.

It wouldn't even be a bandwagon at that point, because there is good, solid evidence for a lynch.

Your idea about waiting, frankly put, is awful. The village gains nothing by waiting. You, however, might. If you are on Hael's team, then you gain a lot by waiting. I think that - pending the results of this lynch - I know where my attention will be focused.

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

If there is ANYONE else with a scan ability please come forward

[Unodus he/him]

11 minutes ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

If there is ANYONE else with a scan ability please come forward

please don't unless you want to become the next target for the elims >.>
we sorta went over this early on, reveal roles to confidantes only

 

 

Edited December 12, 2016 by Unodus

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

25 minutes ago, Unodus said:

please don't unless you want to become the next target for the elims >.>
we sorta went over this early on, reveal roles to confidantes only

 

 

Ooh sorry! PM me then?

[Aonar he/him]

Okay Wilson. My suspicions are assuaged for now; while if you are a traitor you aren't going to follow through on that, and if you are an explorer being duped by a hypothetical Lightweaver-fabrial, I'd rather you didn't follow through on that, I suppose I can understand what's going on there.

While no vote manipulations have happened so far, there are at least three types of vote-manipulation items/roles running around that I am aware of. (One of which you yourself had, Hael.)

Mesa... no offence, but if I had a scanning ability I wouldn't even consider PMing you tonight. You've done nothing remotely trustworthy this game so far.

[little wilson she/her]

7 hours ago, Doc12 said:

As she has said, if she is wrong about him this time, she will be fully confirmed as a traitor to our group, and she will be dead tomorrow.

That's...not what I said. If Hael is innocent, someone is trying to deceive me. The only people who knew I was scanning Hael were you, Aonar, and Seonid. El knew I had Tin, but not that I was using it tonight, but she knew I suspected Hael. Orlok also knew I suspected Hael, but he did not know I had Tin. If Hael is innocent, I'd look at Aonar, Seonid and Doc (well, I won't, because I'll be killing myself, but I'd suggest everyone else to).

2 hours ago, Haelbarde said:

Something bugged Albert Hae. Amongst all the accusations and warnings to her 'friends', Khaos made the claim that someone was forcibly changing peoples minds on who they were suspicious of. But the professor had not noticed any evidence for this. Fortunately, someone had been taking meticulous notes on the goings on of the last week, so he was able to trawl through the data to verify this claim. Working backwards, he became more and more confused. He could find no evidence of any changes. Finally, he reached the notes of their first day after getting stuck in here, and he found it! Aralis had made been suspicious of Quintus, yet no mention of it had been made in the summary for that day. This must have been it! But the professor didn't want to take it at face value. He knew all to well the dangers of getting too excited about a discovery, only to find out an error had been made. So he did his due diligence to verify if the record was indeed accurate. It was just as well too, as it turned out to be a clerical oversight. This left him a bit put out with Khaos, more than before. "Was that your evidence? Maybe it would pay to check your work..."

---

I hadn't actually noticed any vote manipulation during the game, so Wilson's claim that it had happened was news to me! I went through and checked all the vote tallies, and the only discrepancy I could find was that Araris' vote on Jondesu was omitted from the write-up's vote tally, from the Day 1 lynch. I asked Wyrm to confirm if it's omission was intentional or not, and he told me that it was a mistake and the vote should have appeared in that write-up.

@Wyrmhero I don't suppose you could drop in confirm the detail about Araris' vote on Jondesu?

I don't care to trawl through the game, but I wasn't talking about a rioting effect anyway. I was talking about a soothing-type effect. I noticed a vote on JUQ (I think it was) removed a couple cycles ago. Maybe it was mistake, maybe it wasn't. I don't know and I didn't care to check, because I generally take vote counts as truth. Regardless, as Aonar already said, there is vote manipulation in the game. Probably best to not let the vote get in a spot where it can do some damage.

[Mark IV he/him]

I pretty much trust what I've seen of Wilson so far. And, Haelbarde does, in retrospect, seem a little suspicious. 

Now, at this point in the turn, there's no point in voting for a third party. It's either Wilson or Haelbarde I should be voting for - and, seeing as I find Wilson the better evil of the two, I think I'll be... Well... Haelbarde. 

@Doc12 you forgot to mention me! But, nevertheless, I has arrived! 

And, anyways, if Wilson's wrong, we have our next target. But, as stated by Wilson in her earlier post, it makes no sense for anyone, especially Wilson to really straight out lie about it. Unless she later comes up with a too-good excuse tomorrow. 

So, yeah, that's my two cents. Sorry, Hael. 

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 

[Wyrmhero he/him]

5 hours ago, Haelbarde said:

 

@Wyrmhero I don't suppose you could drop in confirm the detail about Araris' vote on Jondesu?

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I can confirm that the votes on Day 1 should not have looked strange. It looks like I miscounted.

[Bugsy he/him]

My gut is telling me Wilson is the liar, but I don't see any endgame for her if she is indeed an eliminator. I mean, we outnumber the elims 19-5, so killing Hael would bring us to 18-5. Wilson's kill tonight with her mixed metal vial would make it 17-5, and the elim kill would make it 16-5, but we'd lynch her the next day and have the ability to find the heart. Based on this, I'm for lynching Hael, but if we're wrong I highly support lynching Wilson next cycle irrespective of a claim of interference. We can't set a precedent of letting those sorts of gimmicks work, even if she'd be telling the truth about her scan having been messed with

[Nyali she/her]

Sorry for being away for a few days - the weekends are usually really busy for me. Today looks quite cut and dry to me though, since I trust Wilson, but just to add to the rest of the votes: Haelbarde.

Unless Wilson is playing us like Aman did in my last game, it looks like we will finally be able to find the heart of the house tonight. So, I guess it's back to exploring and hoping there were only six omens.

[Haelbarde he/him]

It was time to make his peace with the world, before he departed. Maybe I'll Return? Stranger things had happened. Maybe in death he would find the knowledge he had been seeking. At least he would no longer have to put up with people reading the wrong things into everything he said, as Khaos had. He hoped, anyway.

Reviewing the things he had done, he had no regrets. While different decisions might have resulted in his survival of this unfortunate situation, he was satisfied that his decisions had been the right thing to do, ideals worth dying for. As he became more and more excited by the prospects of exploring the Beyond, he knew he wanted to depart peacefully, and with dignity. He wrote a short letter to those who would wonder what would become of him. Signing it with a simple Alberd, he felt at peace.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Haelbarde