Wonko the Sane he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Sheep was online 23 minutes ago, just in time to read the rollover. He is most certainly not inactive. @AliasSheep, I really want to hear your side of this. Why are you being so punctual about checking up, but saying nothing?
Ecthelion III he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 I forgot why we're trusting Alv, but okay, Sheep
Alvron Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ecthelion III said: I forgot why we're trusting Alv, but okay, 2
Assassin in Burgundy he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Sheep. For reasons already stated. Edited November 7, 2016 by Assassin in Burgundy Bad spe-hsnksnks-lling
Elenion he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Ladies and gentlemen, the Sheep wagon is now departing from gate 9. All aboard!
Arraenae Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Alv, awesome? Um. Kind of difficult to imagine that. You're a bit too lurkish to be awesome. C2, Len said this: Quote So far, I've heard suspicions of Jondesu and Aman. I'm reading village on Aman right now because he thought I was an eliminator: I was much less aggressive than usual last cycle (my mistake; I thought you guys would enjoy a respite ), and I don't think an eliminator would have been scanning players for suspicions that closely, since they already would know all of the answers. As for Jondesu, he's reading elim to me, particularly after playing last game with us both as elims (albeit I was a traitor, but...). In the Forsworn PMs he came off as extremely hesitant to make decisions without the approval of others, and I think that as the vote swung towards Doc he was asked by fellow elims to attempt to misdirect the lynch. However, I could see how a village!Jondesu would make those decisions, but I find it less likely than him being an elim. So, without further ado, I'll pile on the bandwagon. Jondesu That's an awful lot of detail there, Len. Why say that Jondesu "was asked by fellow elims to misdirect the lynch" when you can just say "Jondesu misdirected the lynch"? If you know that much detail about how Jondesu was asked to misdirect the lynch, you're probably not village.
Assassin in Burgundy he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Elenion said: Ladies and gentlemen, the Sheep wagon is now departing from gate 9. All aboard! Sheep, congratulations! You've won a first-class ticket straight to Damnation for absolutely no cost! Edited November 7, 2016 by Assassin in Burgundy 1
Ecthelion III he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) C1: Ecthelion(1): Ripple Aman(4): Orlok, Arraenae, Doc, Jondesu Elbereth(1): Ecthelion Doctor(5): Wonko, Elbereth, Nyali, Lopen, Alv Elenion(1): Aman Nyali(1): Sart C2: Jondesu (8): Nyali, Bugsy, Len, Wonko, Dani, Rae, Lopen, Sart Rae (3): Ripple, Ec3 Orlok (1): Aman Aman (1): Jondesu C3: Ripple(4): Wonko, Lopen, Rae, Elenion Darkness Ascendant(1): Alvron Rae(2): Ecth, Ripple Here's my first bit of actual game analysis. This is all the votes from the 3 cycles color-coded by what team the players were on. I put myself in light green because I know I'm a villager so it'll help me to keep track better. I would find it quite strange if Jondesu was lynched without any eliminators piling on the wagon to act unsuspicious, and Wonko and Lopen are not likely to be elims, so I think Dani or Len might be a good lynch target next cycle. Edited November 7, 2016 by Ecthelion III
Arraenae Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 @Ecthelion III, what about Sart? Sart also voted for Jondesu.
Magestar he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Alv is apparently the most powerful lurker ever to have roamed lurked in these dark halls. 5 minutes ago, Assassin in Burgundy said: Sheep, congratulations! You've won a first-class ticket straight to Damnation absolutely free! This line has me cracking up over here. 5 minutes ago, Arraenae said: That's an awful lot of detail there, Len. Why say that Jondesu "was asked by fellow elims to misdirect the lynch" when you can just say "Jondesu misdirected the lynch"? If you know that much detail about how Jondesu was asked to misdirect the lynch, you're probably not village. I'm going to have to agree with Rae on this one. It is a bit odd. I'm not quite understanding why we'd lynch Sheep anyhow, so Len. Sheep could very easily just have responded to a few PM's somewhere along the way. Ecth, all that red text might be a bit confusing. You might want to pick another color. However, this is a bit more evidence in favor of lynching Len, who I thought we should look into last cycle. Edited November 7, 2016 by Magestar
Arraenae Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 @AliasSheep, you have enough internet access and time to talk in Discord. Mind talking in here?
Ecthelion III he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, Arraenae said: @Ecthelion III, what about Sart? Sart also voted for Jondesu. And so did you. But usually an elim is the 3rd or 4th voter; you guys were a bit later on. Don't think I trust you, though. I will never trust you.
Elenion he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 52 minutes ago, Magestar said: I'm going to have to agree with Rae on this one. It is a bit odd. I'm not quite understanding why we'd lynch Sheep anyhow, so Len. I assumed that Jondesu was asked to misdirect the lynch after my experience being on a team with him in the last MR. It may have had something to do with Lopen doing things behind the scenes, but how the elims worked that game I always had to start the lynches, then ask Mage and Jondesu to join me. Mage usually did, but Jondesu was often hesitant to vote (or he didn't vote at all), hence my assumption that this game he had to be coerced into voting by the other elims. This panic/coercion hypothesis explained to me perfectly why the vote was so last-minute and suspicious: Jondesu was suddenly forced into voting by teammates with no warning and little time to do so. So there I was, having just come up with an explanation that fit the circumstances very accurately; and so of course I posted it in its entirety for evaluation and action upon. I'm not going to water down my ideas just so they don't look like I know too much.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Well, I'd like to hear from Sheep, but I'm not terribly suspicious right now. If he doesn't respond, then I don't mind lynching him. I'm gonna vote on Len as well. I feel like he was trying to get the lynch off of Ripple last Cycle by pushing for lynches on Nathan and Darkness Ascendant, until he finally voted on Ripple.
Elenion he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, TheMightyLopen said: Well, I'd like to hear from Sheep, but I'm not terribly suspicious right now. If he doesn't respond, then I don't mind lynching him. I'm gonna vote on Len as well. I feel like he was trying to get the lynch off of Ripple last Cycle by pushing for lynches on Nathan and Darkness Ascendant, until he finally voted on Ripple. What exactly did you want to hear from me? I didn't vote Ripple or Rae because (as I specified then) I didn't find them suspicious at the time. If you talk to my PM-contacts (Alv is one and he knows the other), they will corroborate my story that I haven't been suspicious of either this entire game, and last cycle in particular I explicitly told my second contact that I didn't even know why Ripple and Rae were up for votes. I voted for Nathan because I'm suspicious of lurkers, but when the lynch stopped on him I thought that it was good that we weren't going to get another Jefry, and so switched to DA because he too was lurking. It was my intention at that point to stay with Alv on DA until turnover, but when more votes failed to materialize on Ripple I grew paranoid of Soothers and decided to act, since DA wasn't going to get lynched anyway except in a triple, and I didn't want that. I swapped my vote to Ripple, and you can tell how at the beginning of the cycle I was (erroneously) convinced that I had negated an elim gambit to gain a triple lynch. And while I did end with my vote on Ripple, I haven't tried to use that as leverage to prove that I'm innocent, because that was just a lucky vote.
little wilson she/her Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Do not post after you die. If you have something you'd like to say to the thread and you are dead, really to both the GM and the impartial moderator and they will decide if you can post. But the dead do not talk in the thread, so do not post. Thank you. 2
Alvron Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said: @Alvron why u vote me? Because I think you're evil and I want you lynched. 7 hours ago, Elenion said: What exactly did you want to hear from me? I didn't vote Ripple or Rae because (as I specified then) I didn't find them suspicious at the time. If you talk to my PM-contacts (Alv is one and he knows the other), they will corroborate my story that I haven't been suspicious of either this entire game, and last cycle in particular I explicitly told my second contact that I didn't even know why Ripple and Rae were up for votes. I can neither corroborate nor refute your story. At no point in our PM did Ripple or Rae come up so I have no way of knowing if you were suspicious of them or not. Vote Tally: Sheep (5): Alv, Wonko, Len, Ec3, Assassin Len (3): Rae, Magestar, Lopen Edited November 7, 2016 by Alvron
Wonko the Sane he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 @AliasSheep was online just three hours ago, and has not made even the most cursory effort to defend himself or explain his silence. My vote holds firm.
Elenion he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, Alvron said: I can neither corroborate nor refute your story. At no point in our PM did Ripple or Rae come up so I have no way of knowing if you were suspicious of them or not. *studies PM history* It looks like you're right. I guess it was just the other contact of mine that I mentioned that too. Sorry. I'm of the impression that Sheep thinks the vote will swing off of him like it did off of Nathan last cycle. I for one am not ready to afford him that luxury.
Nathanvanduij he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Anyone who is able to please PM me who you are voting for, and for what reason. As I am hoping to place a vote in this cycle. Thanks
Wonko the Sane he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Nathan, that's not really sensitive information. Look back over the thread. Basically all we talk about in this game is who we're going to lynch and why. I, for example, am voting on Sheep because he is faking inactivity, and has ignored multiple attempts to summon him to defend himself.
Nathanvanduij he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I will go with wonko's suggestion and vote for sheep for the reasons stated above. Edited November 7, 2016 by Nathanvanduij Didnt know how to make Sheeps name red
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted November 7, 2016 Author Posted November 7, 2016 About 39 minutes left this cycle.
Wonko the Sane he/him Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 I'm not complaining about your voting alongside me, but I would recommend you read through the thread, and think about what everyone has said, not just me. Maybe come to some opinions of your own. It seems like Sheep is going to be the lynch for tonight, but it can't hurt to practice thinking analytically.
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