+hwiles He/Him Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm mobile right now so I'll keep this short. We have from Szeth in an interlude that he traveled with a merchant from Kholinar to somewhere in Jah keved, where he hid the sphere. The merchant was traveling via cart, presumably chull-drawn. The context in which these details are delivered leads me to assume that the merchant had been traveling alone, which would make it unlikely that he was following anything other than the most well traveled and protected roads. The rivered open plains north of Kholinar would probably make for a safer and more populated route than traversing the, from what I can surmise, empty, valley between the mountains separating Alethkar from Jah keved and the unclaimed hills. We also know Szeth gets passed from dozens of masters before ending up in Bavland, Masters he describes as lowly darkeyes. Darkeyes in general aren't particularly likely to travel exceptionally far. So I posit to you that the sphere is most likely hidden near the foothills of the horneater peaks. Possibly Valath, though more likely on the Mountains eastern side. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Krooked Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 I personally think he took it to Urithiru. He said it was somewhere safe. That's the safest place he could think of, because no one else could get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 In a Wok's Interlude Szeth says (or better thinks) that He left the sphere in Jah Keved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Might as well put this under a spoiler because it pertains to the ending for Words of Radiance: Spoiler Jah Keved... I wonder if Taravangian will come across it then. Seeing as he recently seized control of Jah Keved... Also for that matter, Szeth and Taravangian are likely to have some kind of confrontation eventually. Szeth I presume is no longer considering himself as truthless, and will be working for Nalan in Shinovar in the future... But if he comes across Taravangian after he returns from Shinovar, there will be a significant conflict... Especially since I suspect that the diagram utterly failed to foresee that Szeth would fail to kill Dalinar, and then be resurrected and initiated into the order of skybreakers. Edited September 5, 2016 by Drake Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Master Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Oh I can't wait to see Szeth confront Taravangian. I get that he's acting in the way he does because he feels that it's the only way to save humanity, but in a way he's even more despicable than Sadeas at the moment. I can't wait to see the fear in his eyes as he realizes that one of the most dangerous men in the world, who he used to slaughter dozens of people, is coming for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stBondsmith he/him Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Szeth said he hid it. That would not imply giving it to someone. And as we all know this MUST become important later, Szeth's death came as a huge shock to me till he was revived. He alone knows where the stone with Dark Light is. So we need him later. I don't think we will hear anything about it's location till Szeth decides to recover it. I could be wrong, but I think he must join the united Knights at some point. Perhaps when his Herald comes to himself with the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles He/Him Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 13 hours ago, 1stBondsmith said: Szeth said he hid it. That would not imply giving it to someone. And as we all know this MUST become important later, Szeth's death came as a huge shock to me till he was revived. He alone knows where the stone with Dark Light is. So we need him later. I don't think we will hear anything about it's location till Szeth decides to recover it. I could be wrong, but I think he must join the united Knights at some point. Perhaps when his Herald comes to himself with the others... I dunno...he's at least partially insane at this point, has, at best, extremely peculiar morals regarding murder, possesses a sword that, at least when used on Nalthis, doesn't just cut through anything, but actually kills on contact, is being mentored by a man whose desire to kill the new Radiants is only outmatched by his desire to obey the letter (but not spirit) of the law, and knows where a jewel is that we know is linked in some important, though as yet unrevealed way to one of the Shards on Roshar (widely believed to be Odium, but we can't know for sure yet). I'd say he's set up pretty well to do anything but join the rest of the Radiants. Don't get me wrong, it'd make for a brilliant twist, but I wouldn't be too shocked if he became Odium's champion. He's been dumped on and pushed around by the Shin, the Diagramists, the Parshendi, dozens of masters, and probably bears some lingering resentment for all the people he fought whom he felt weren't strong enough to kill him and put him out of his misery (which includes Dalinar and Kaladin, though his opinions of them haven't really been explored since his rebirth). He has let the hate flow through him, his transformation is nearly complete... Once he starts slaying younglings in Shinovar we'll know he's past the point of redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erinzard Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I'm personally hoping that Szeth will feel honor bound to go get the sphere and give it to Dalinar since that was Gavilar's dying wish. I mean, then he could also apologize for trying to kill Dalinar and Adolin, killing Gavilar, and his trying-to-bring-about-the-end-of-the-world type of behavior. Two cremlings with one stone. He's never been bashful about doing hard things before, so I could see it happening. And one of the things I absolutely love about the series is that the plot is mostly not driven by miscommunication or lack of communication, so I don't see why he'd keep something so clearly important to himself. Now, if ol' Scarface convinces him that the letter of the law comes first, then all bets are off. It could warp his sense of honor since so much of what should be done is based on what you feel is right, not what a written law stipulates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stBondsmith he/him Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 41 minutes ago, hwiles said: I dunno...he's at least partially insane at this point, has, at best, extremely peculiar morals regarding murder, possesses a sword that, at least when used on Nalthis, doesn't just cut through anything, but actually kills on contact, is being mentored by a man whose desire to kill the new Radiants is only outmatched by his desire to obey the letter (but not spirit) of the law, and knows where a jewel is that we know is linked in some important, though as yet unrevealed way to one of the Shards on Roshar (widely believed to be Odium, but we can't know for sure yet). I'd say he's set up pretty well to do anything but join the rest of the Radiants. Don't get me wrong, it'd make for a brilliant twist, but I wouldn't be too shocked if he became Odium's champion. He's been dumped on and pushed around by the Shin, the Diagramists, the Parshendi, dozens of masters, and probably bears some lingering resentment for all the people he fought whom he felt weren't strong enough to kill him and put him out of his misery (which includes Dalinar and Kaladin, though his opinions of them haven't really been explored since his rebirth). He has let the hate flow through him, his transformation is nearly complete... Once he starts slaying younglings in Shinovar we'll know he's past the point of redemption. Well thought, and intentionally set up. I think he is following his "honorable" rules, only to find out he has been lied to by the folks back home. He is no longer a Truthless, and the reason he is the perfect Skybreaker is his adherence to honor. What his Herald doesn't know, is the conflict he has when he finds out he was lied to. He doesn't know Szeth's anger at all the murders he was "forced" to commit, nor his feelings of betrayal at finding he was right all along about Surgebinders returning. This hits at the soul of his religion, and when we get more of his backstory, we will see the distinct possibility of his turning on the council, returning the dark stone, and even possibly telling the Radiants about the Honorblades. It will be some fun twists and turns indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofwu he/him Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The referenced text is from The Way of Kings Interlude I-3: Quote The miners eventually tired of Took's increasingly slurred stories. They bid him farewell, ignoring his broad hints that another cup of beer would prompt him to tell his greatest tale: that of the time when he'd seen the Nightwatcher herself and stolen a sphere that glowed black at night. That tale always discomforted Szeth, as it reminded him of the strange black sphere Gavilar had given him. He'd hidden that carefully in Jah Keved. He didn't know what it was, but he didn't want to risk a master taking it from him. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if Taravangian digs up the sphere. It would almost be surprising if the Diagram didn't say something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles He/Him Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 All true. It's sort of scary how much Roshar's fate depends on the feelings and whims of a man (Szeth) whose sanity is unclear. He may well be the only living person who knows the location of an artifact of great importance to either (or both) Cultivation and Odium. Now that he's rubbing elbows with worldhopping Heralds he might actually stand a chance of figuring out what that artifact is capable of...will he choose and assist one of the factions working to prevent the end of the world, will he seek to hasten the destruction of Roshar, or will he transcend the conflict entirely and pursue "justice" against the stone shamans and/or Diagramists in a wave of murderous revenge? I'm really hoping he get's at least a little screen time in this next book, these questions are ruining my productivity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprtstr14 he/him Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 9/7/2016 at 10:29 AM, hwiles said: I'm really hoping he get's at least a little screen time in this next book, these questions are ruining my productivity... Does anyone know who book 3 will follow? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that books 3, 4, and 5 will follow Szeth, Eshonai, and Dalinar. Not necessarily in that order, but I thought Dalinar was book 5 also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles He/Him Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 27 minutes ago, sprtstr14 said: Does anyone know who book 3 will follow? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that books 3, 4, and 5 will follow Szeth, Eshonai, and Dalinar. Not necessarily in that order, but I thought Dalinar was book 5 also. Welcome to the forums and congrats on your first post! Book 3, working title "Oathbringer" is set to follow Dalinar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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