Master Elodin Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Hmph. Fine. Hellscythe. There goes that lead. (Not that he couldn't still be a Darkfriend. But nothing in his response particularly indicated that to me, so I no longer have any basis for suspicion there.) I'll try to figure out who I want to vote for soon. Probably not Elodin, though. Feels too easy. Elbereth, I don't think it matters who you vote for. I'm pretty much unsavable.
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Sure, but that doesn't mean I can't make a point by voting on someone else. And hey, I'm an optimist. It could happen. There's still a couple of hours left. Plenty of time for the lynch to swing onto someone else, if enough people are around. Don't give up until you're dead.
Haelbarde he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 So with Dreamwalkers - do they have to put in an order to hide in Tel'aran'rhiod? Or is it just automatic? Still a bit confused by the lack of DF kill, but I think I'm leaning towards the kill not being put in due to all the other living DF's putting in actions, and the person who was meant to put them in didn't get on in time to place them - that's certainly happened before, and to my mind seems more likely than the kill being blocked (confused as to why Elodin was detained, and it seems even less likely that he was both detained and hit with the DF kill, unless I'm missing something). Although, if someone did roleblock someone, I suspect they'll wait and claim during the night, or wait for more information.
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Given that Deathclutch was a Dreamwalker and he died to a Wolfbrother kill, I'd guess it has to be put in.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Well, I guess Hellscythes' responses were enough that I'll remove my vote from him. At this point, I don't see a better candidate than Elodin, even though I'm having doubts. Sorry for the short post, but I've been feeling unwell for the past few hours so I don't feel like doing a long explanation post or trying to find a better alternate lynch candidate. Elodin still seems suspicious to me and we have had a lot of discussion about him, so he seems like the best player to lynch at this point. Sorry if you're actually a villager Elodin. The Day ends in about 2 hours, just so everyone is aware. Sigh. Now I need to go green out all of my previous votes. Edited June 8, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I still haven't decided where I'll place my vote. I'm down to Gunshy, Meta, or Bard. I really don't have anything strong for any of them though, and as I type this, I'm not sure I want to vote for any of them. Also, Straw, please don't declare your scanning target in thread. It only tells the Darkfriends who to detain or Padan Fain who to corrupt. You can tell us after you check them, but even that doesn't help in that they can be converted right after. I would actually recommend Wilson as a scan target, but please do not tell us who you actually choose. Edited June 8, 2016 by Mailliw73
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Well, now you might be unsaveable, Elodin. And... true, the information aspect is a good one. We will learn a lot more from lynching him than any other candidate. So... I may not vote, this cycle. I'm not comfortable with voting for Elodin, but I don't have any better candidate, and it would net us a lot of information. So unless I find someone better (which will depend on how much time I have to go back over the thread, which is now looking rather limited), I'll abstain.
Seonid he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 On the one hand, nothing I've seen diminishes my suspicions of Bard - suspicions that have been significantly reinforced by meta's analysis. On the other, Elodin really hasn't become any less suspicious to me either. On a third hand, I'm reticent to blithely walk in and lynch the Dreamwalker, shutting down pms for the rest of the game. Especially not when we could wait and target him with a wolf tonight and actually test his claim without losing pms. If he isn't, then he'll either die or price that the darkfriends have a protection role or whitecloak. If he is, then we lose a wolf kill but have verified the claim. And nothing is stopping us from lynching him again - only we'd know what we were getting into instead of guessing as to the veracity of his claim. On a fourth hand (I don't know what kind of creature we're describing now), Bard's defense of Hellscythe sounds suspiciously like an eliminator trying to protect one of his own. But that could just be my already present suspicion off bard showing through. On the fifth hand of this increasingly bizarre monster, I don't see anything extra suspicious about Hellscythe - it's his connection to bard raising the red flags to me. On a sixth hand, leaving Elodin alive to ensure pms could leave us in a situation where we have essentially an outed eliminator. However, I could be wrong about him. My intuition has not been on point. In the final analysis (for now), my gut tells me to vote for the person I find suspicious. So - Bard Elodin I think I'll leave my vote there, unless other people like the idea of leaving him alive and killing him with a wolf tonight, to check his Dreamwalker claim. I'm willing to change it if we decide to do that.
Dustbringer12 he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 After one busy day, I come back, and have to skim read 6 pages. Basically what I got is that one person voted for elodin recently, and everyone agreed with their reasoning, changing their votes to him. Votes moved around a lot. What is the current vote count? You know, I am going to find out.
jaimeleecee she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 The more I re-read previous posts, I am growing suspicion for Gunshy I didn't necessarily have before.... And I must admit that my counter argument about the HS bandwagon is flawed.. because of that my suspicion against Elodin is again reduced, not gone, because of the lack of defense for him... Which makes me feel bad voting for him if I'm not really trusting myself completely but I don't think me changing my mind is enough to save him. This game is wayyyyy more stressful than I anticipated... I spend all day reading people and relying heavily on my gut and intuition as it is, but this.. this is a whole different monster of analysis >.> I'm actually getting a headache from not being able to make up my mind the paranoia is real!
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I actually did just think about testing his(Elodin's) claim with a Wolf kill. It would both back up his claim and it would ensure that he didn't send in the DF kill, so he wouldn't actually be doing any harm. I think I'd lynch Gunshy if we got enough votes on him, but I'm not really very sure about him either, so I don't know. My suspicions are pretty wacky at the moment. I'm still a bit suspicious of Rubiks and Jaime as well, although I don't know if I want to lynch them. Twei and Haelbarde both seem pretty neutral to me. Twei, because she's been very quiet, with short posts when she does post, and Haelbarde because his posts always just seem so neutral to me, like, they don't seem evil, but it doesn't seem like he takes a firm stance on much. Ninja'd by Jaime. I have to agree with you there. My gut is going crazy right now and I don't trust myself. O.o Edited June 8, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Seonid, I personally do like that idea quite a lot. I don't have a vote on him to retract, though, so there's not much I can do to see that it happens. I'd be willing to put down a vote on Gunshy, though. His defense didn't really make me any less suspicious of him. I may see if I can put together a post about that before turnover rolls around. Jaime, I know the feeling. It's even worse when you're an eliminator or under strong suspicion. So much stress.
Seonid he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Elb, between you, me, and Lopen, we could probably swing it to bard. I'm not suspicious enough of Gunshy to swing the lynch there, and I'm not even sure we could. I'm a little hesitant to effect a last-minute swing, but Meta was right about Sart when I thought he was wrong.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Okay, well, better back up my words. Elodin Gunshy Let's see how this goes. I may change back though. I'm feeling very unsure about all of this. I'm not sure if I'm actually going to be the Mayor or not, since I think Meta may be tied with me for Mayor votes. I'm against lynching Bard though, so I'm not gonna move my Mayor vote to Meta. Edit: Seonid, I don't want to swing it to Bard. I'm not at all suspicious of him. Edited June 8, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 And I don't suspect Bard enough to swing it to him either, Seonid. So. That's unfortunate.
Seonid he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Other than Gunshy or bard, is there anyone else we collectively suspect enough to want to try this?
jaimeleecee she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Oh light.. Since I Ninja'd Lopen and said I was suspicious of Gunshy first then I guess I wouldn't technically be bandwagoning but I'm so stressed about possibly being wrong about Elodin and losing another important villager gahhhhh I might puke before this is over tonight anyone have a current count?
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Don't think so, Seonid... I'm very hesitant about lynching Meta, and I can't think of anyone else. The reason I'm hesitant about switching votes last minute like this is that it disadvantages people who can't be on at rollover (like anyone British, for instance, or just doesn't have schedule permitting being on right now). That said, turnover's still an hour and a half away. That's lots of time. And I am very uncomfortable about lynching Elodin. Jaime. It's okay. I honestly don't suspect you at all right now, and wouldn't blame you for changing your vote. I can't speak for others, but seriously. Do what you think is best, not what you think will make you the least suspicious. Edited June 8, 2016 by Elbereth (Lomion)
Seonid he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Rubik, did you get that count? I'm on mobile right now, otherwise I'd get ah updated one.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 The more I think about it, I actually kinda suspect Sheep. Not sure why though. Also, Twei, I haven't seen you in a while. Any thoughts?
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Other than Gunshy or bard, is there anyone else we collectively suspect enough to want to try this? Maybe Mailliw? I'm getting a weird read on him. Plus, hardly anyone has commented on him, which could signify that he's an eliminator because he's put forward some unique opinions(such as suspicion of Wilson and Meta, who are mostly cleared from being Darkfriends in most players eyes) but hasn't gotten much heat from it. This is a relatively new suspicious though, and I don't think I'd actually want to lynch him right now. Maybe scan him though. Oh light.. Since I Ninja'd Lopen and said I was suspicious of Gunshy first then I guess I wouldn't technically be bandwagoning but I'm so stressed about possibly being wrong about Elodin and losing another important villager gahhhhh I might puke before this is over tonight anyone have a current count? Lol, sometimes I get like that at the end of Day Turns and sometimes Night Turns. It's why I've said in a lot of previous games that I don't like to be around to do last minute stuff, because I get freaked out that I'll be wrong. A vote tally would be very helpful right now, yeah.
Elbereth she/her Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Putting a tally together now, but it'll be a few minutes.
Dustbringer12 he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Lynch vote: Straw/Gladium Dei (1): gunshy Elodin/Ba’alzamon (8) :Straw, Bard, Winter, Bugsy, sheep, Jaime, Conquestor, Seonid Bard/Ruon (1):Nyali Wilson/Keland (1):Elodin Winter/Lexa & Heaven (1) : Twelfthrootoftwo Hellscythe/Tazrim Maim (2): Araris Valerian, Elodin Gunshy/gunshy (2):Elbereth, Lopen Mayoral vote: Lopen/Jak (5):Meta, Seonid, Elbereth, Lopen, Elodin Metacognition/Mezal (4):Bugsy, Stink, Jaime, Conquestor Wilson/Keland (1):Haelbarde Edit: This is what I got. Second edit: Did anyone else notice how many times I edit? Edited June 8, 2016 by RubiksCube
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Maybe Mailliw? I'm getting a weird read on him. Plus, hardly anyone has commented on him, which could signify that he's an eliminator because he's put forward some unique opinions(such as suspicion of Wilson and Meta, who are mostly cleared from being Darkfriends in most players eyes) but hasn't gotten much heat from it. This is a relatively new suspicious though, and I don't think I'd actually want to lynch him right now. Maybe scan him though. Wait, what? Me? I can promise you I'm a Villager.
Haelbarde he/him Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Twei and Haelbarde both seem pretty neutral to me. Twei, because she's been very quiet, with short posts when she does post, and Haelbarde because his posts always just seem so neutral to me, like, they don't seem evil, but it doesn't seem like he takes a firm stance on much. I fully acknowledge that I've been neutral, and that does not help the village. I'm thinking I'm just going to have to go through the player list, and focus on each player one at a time, and write out my thoughts. Not sure if I can get that done for this cycle though...
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