BrightVoid Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 So we have some creatures called Unmade, which I assume are splinters or Odium, simmilar to spren. I assume that most are more powerful, as they do not require a bond to cause magics to happen. (Death Rattles) Is there any more info on them, such as their sentience, numbers, or powers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 If you search up "Unmade" in theoryland, you'll get a few WoBs about what they are. They are powerful spren that cause things like the Thrill and the Death Rattles in areas around them. I *Think* there are nine of them, but don't quote me on that... They are probably semi sentient agents of Odium, not bond spren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyali Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I believe we only know what three of them can do - two cause the Death Rattles and Thrill as mentioned above and the third (the Midnight Mother) creates the Midnight Essences that can merge with stone and have a monster break off from the rock and attack nearby humans. If I recall correctly, some of them are sentient, and some are not. It isn't clear if the Death Rattles and the Thrill are deliberate creations of those two Unmade or just involuntary byproducts of its proximity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svordish Scientist Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 The unmade are like the heralds, they are intents of Odium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Ten unmade. We know the name of five for certainty Yelig-nar aka Blightwind Nergoul the Thrill Moelach the death rattles Dai-gonarthis aka Black fisher Re-shephir aka Midnight mother We also know that Yelig-nar is sentient and possibly the most poweful of the Unmade. He is able to consume his victims, but being largely restricted to the cognitive realm, there is a strong case that he consumes victims with hate - as IIRC WoB mentions that Szeth may be being influenced by something similar to a spren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Ten unmade. We know the name of five for certainty Actualy, we know by WoB there are not ten unmade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightVoid Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) Actualy, we know by WoB there are not ten unmade. Link? Ten unmade. We know the name of five for certainty Yelig-nar aka Blightwind Nergoul the Thrill Moelach the death rattles Dai-gonarthis aka Black fisher Re-shephir aka Midnight mother Is it possible that Dai-gonarthis is influencing the Purelake? Fisher makes me think of those invested fish, but all of the known effects are positive. Maybe it influences them somehow? Edit: INTERVIEW: Mar 22nd, 2014 WoR Signing Report - Argent (Verbatim) QUESTIONIs the number of the Unmade fixed? BRANDON SANDERSON Yes. QUESTIONIs it ten, is it ten, is it ten, is it ten, is it ten? BRANDON SANDERSONIs it ten? No, it's not ten. Edited May 11, 2016 by BrightVoid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightsong Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 The unmade are like the heralds, they are intents of Odium. They aren't like the heralds at all. While Heralds are human, the Unmade are splinters; beings of pure investiture. What do you mean by 'intents'? Are you saying that each Unmade may correlate to a facet of Odium's mandate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 The unmade are splinters of Odium. I read that too. Everything i new about them is already here so im just here to give upvotes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvoraen Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 As far as the number of (named) Unmade go, I'd really like to know if it's six, because Heralds + Unmade would then be sixteen. The other major question I hope gets answered is whether Odium-sourced spren are erroneously referred to as part of the Unmade, and vice-versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightVoid Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I get the feeling that whatever number it turns out to be will be significant to Odium, similar to the 16 metals, 10 Heralds, ect. 6 would be good as it leaves one Unmade that we know nothing about to create a potential plot point later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I believe we only know what three of them can do - two cause the Death Rattles and Thrill as mentioned above and the third (the Midnight Mother) creates the Midnight Essences that can merge with stone and have a monster break off from the rock and attack nearby humans. If I recall correctly, some of them are sentient, and some are not. It isn't clear if the Death Rattles and the Thrill are deliberate creations of those two Unmade or just involuntary byproducts of its proximity. Midnight Essence is not the same as voidspren possessing rock (thunderclasts). Midnight Essence is what Dalinar fought in the vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyali Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Midnight Essence is not the same as voidspren possessing rock (thunderclasts). Midnight Essence is what Dalinar fought in the vision. Oh, I thought the Midnight Essences were similar, except differently shaped (and weaker). And can't one of the Unmade corrupt and control spren or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvoraen Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I get the feeling that whatever number it turns out to be will be significant to Odium, similar to the 16 metals, 10 Heralds, ect. 6 would be good as it leaves one Unmade that we know nothing about to create a potential plot point later. I'm not sure exactly what you meant here. At the minimum, we have six names that are likely to all be Unmade, and we don't know hardly anything about any of them except DANGER, WILL ROBINSON: Yelig-nar Re'Shephir Dai'gonarthis Moelach Nergaoul Sja'anat Edited May 15, 2016 by dvoraen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Why do those names sound like something H.P. Lovecraft came up with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Why do those names sound like something H.P. Lovecraft came up with? I love the names, they do sound particularity cool and ominous at the same time Yelig-Nar sounds like a beast though: "Yelig-nar, called Blightwind, was one that could speak like a man, though often his voice was accompanied by the wails of those he consumed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4dave Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yelig-Nar almost kinda sounds like Nightblood to me...he can speak like a man, and he is confirmed to consume lifeforce when Investiture isn't available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Why do those names sound like something H.P. Lovecraft came up with? They're based on real world deities etc., to my knowledge. Nergaoul, for example, seems to be a name derived from the real-world Nergal. Perhaps Lovecraft was similarly inspired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Lovecraft is very influential and he inspires a lot of writers, it really wouldn't surprise me but i agree with Moogle on this one. I don't know why but i always imagined the Unmade more as specters or overseers who don't get directly involved for some reason.. it's ridiculous and i have no idea why i thought that but Yalig-Nar broke into Nohadon's Chancery(?) and slaughtered all his Wordsmen(?), he sounds involved and highly dangerous.. In WOK Chapter, 19 one of the Knights Radiant said that they hadn't fought Voidbringers but Midnight Essence was one of the Ten Deaths, which seems to me to be a reflection of the Ten Essences. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald101 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 We know that the unmade are splinters and presumably so are voidspren, so what makes the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blightsong Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Probably the amount of investiture split off of the Shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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