Question 19

[Puncake]

17 minutes ago, WarriorMark16 said:

I think astoria. thats where we generally put the more powerful characters. plus I think it would be fun to write a scene with he and ragnarok fighting or even being allies.

No idea who that is xd But sure! Can I get a recap for the plot there? 

[Edgedancer he/him]

1 minute ago, Puncake said:

No idea who that is xd But sure! Can I get a recap for the plot there? 

I may be biased but that does sound like a good reccomendation. Somewhat limited on time right now, so I can't give a full summary but to give you the quick notes, Astoria is a city ruled by very powerful Epics.However their local ruler is currently absent (although that has not besome public knowledge yet) and it just so happens that at this time the city became the target of foreign interest, some by chance and some of them recruited by a traitor within the city.

[Citadel16 he/him]

 

2 hours ago, Puncake said:

Oh, I see... So it's just a demonstration of power, right? Got it. 

"You want a demonstration of my powers?" Arclight asked. "Well, that's easy." 

He summoned a big ball of electricity and hurled it at a tank. The electricity hit, and the tank exploded. "That was because the tank was metal, and had fuel and ammunition in it. But this." He zapped a man in the crowd, who fell twitching, and was still after a moment. "That was pure electricity. 1 billion volts. Well, its the current that kills you, really, but the 1 billion part still sound impressive, huh?" 

He began firing lightning bolts at cars, buildings, even people. Soon there was carnage everywhere, burning cars and houses, corpses everywhere. Arclight approached the last woman alive, who was crying on the ground. "But look here." He touched her face, and she fell to the ground, unconscious. "Messing with bioelectricity is always fun." 

He then lifted a burning car up into midair, though he was obviously straining. "Magnetic forces." He explained, and threw the car at another house. "My magnetic field won't affect too high-speeded things like bullets, but a knife and such won't work. The magnetic field also generates electricity, so think twice before punching me." 

He parkoured over a few cars, up onto the rooftops, and climbed an apartment building. Leaped down from second floor, landed, completely unwinded. "Heightened everything. Stamina, dexterity, speed, reflexes, you name it. Well, that's... Pretty much it. Hold on." He approached the camera. "Who are you anyway? Put that thing down!" 

The camera fell to the ground, and someone screamed. 

Arclight left. 

 

That was ok? xd 

what would happen if someone with invulnerability punched him? just as a specific curiosity.

[Puncake]

31 minutes ago, WarriorMark16 said:

 

what would happen if someone with invulnerability punched him? just as a specific curiosity.

Still get a shock, but it would be like static electricity. His brain would be jumbled for a bit too. 

[WayneSpren he/him]

3 hours ago, Puncake said:

"That was pure electricity. 1 billion volts. Well, its the current that kills you, really, but the 1 billion part still sound impressive, huh?" 

Can't, like, just a few hundred volts kill people? 'Cause a billion sounds like kinda a lot. 

Arclight scares me.

 

[breakingamber he/him]

46 minutes ago, DelightfuI said:

Can't, like, just a few hundred volts kill people? 'Cause a billion sounds like kinda a lot. 

Arclight scares me.

 

I think he was exaggerating.

Well, Arclight sounds interesting, but I think he'd do better in Salem. Then again, I think everyone would do better in Salem. There isn't enough activity there... But he would do well in Salem. His power portfolio makes him a very good choice for the fights, although we haven't done any in the while.

[Puncake]

55 minutes ago, DelightfuI said:

Can't, like, just a few hundred volts kill people? 'Cause a billion sounds like kinda a lot. 

Arclight scares me.

 

Yes, a few hundred can. In fact, 20v can kill you - if the current is strong enough. That's why we see people getting killed by police tasers. 

3 minutes ago, breakingamber said:

I think he was exaggerating.

Well, Arclight sounds interesting, but I think he'd do better in Salem. Then again, I think everyone would do better in Salem. There isn't enough activity there... But he would do well in Salem. His power portfolio makes him a very good choice for the fights, although we haven't done any in the while.

Not exaggerating. His max output is indeed a billion volts, but that would tire him out. 

 

Salem? 

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I'm no expert on electricity or physics, so the answer to this question could very well be "No," but….

If just a few hundred volts will kill you, wouldn't a man struck by a billion volts explode? Or burn to a crisp? It doesn't seem like he should "fall twitching." 

[breakingamber he/him]

6 minutes ago, Puncake said:

Yes, a few hundred can. In fact, 20v can kill you - if the current is strong enough. That's why we see people getting killed by police tasers. 

Not exaggerating. His max output is indeed a billion volts, but that would tire him out. 

 

Salem? 

Ok... wow.

Salem is a city ruled by the semi-benevolent Soulcaster. It's mostly a farming town, but there's an important attraction- the Arena, which draws Epics (and the occasional vanilla), where Epics can fight to the death without dying; it's all in a dream, sort of. Anyway, your Epic would be ideal; he has no PI, but he's pretty powerful.

[Mestiv he/him]

31 minutes ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

I'm no expert on electricity or physics, so the answer to this question could very well be "No," but….

If just a few hundred volts will kill you, wouldn't a man struck by a billion volts explode? Or burn to a crisp? It doesn't seem like he should "fall twitching." 

It's not the Volts that hurt you but the Ampers

[Puncake]

12 minutes ago, Mestiv said:

It's not the Volts that hurt you but the Ampers

This man's got the answer  

So can I start in Salem immediately? 

[breakingamber he/him]

1 hour ago, Puncake said:

This man's got the answer  

So can I start in Salem immediately? 

Probably, but you should still ask Voidus first. He's the GM (God-Mod) of Salem.

[Puncake]

9 minutes ago, breakingamber said:

Probably, but you should still ask Voidus first. He's the GM (God-Mod) of Salem.

Lemme just find him first... 

[Edgedancer he/him]

Just now, Puncake said:

Lemme just find him first... 

Eh, @Voidus will probably check this thread anyway once he's on the shard again but if you do want to send him a message directly, you can just tyoe his name into the recipent field in the messenger. Plus, you should at least send him ans Twi your Epic's weakness.

[Puncake]

34 minutes ago, Edgedancer said:

Eh, @Voidus will probably check this thread anyway once he's on the shard again but if you do want to send him a message directly, you can just tyoe his name into the recipent field in the messenger. Plus, you should at least send him ans Twi your Epic's weakness.

Got it. Anything else I should know? 

[Clockwork he/him]

On 8/23/2016 at 3:29 PM, Comatose said:

@Chasmfiend can I assume that Chasmifiend falls into line and agrees to serve Rainmaker?  If he does, I don't necessarily need another post from you, I'll just mention is response vaguely and move on so Rainmaker can be at the meeting. 

You would be correct. Yes, Chasmfiend is arrogant, but even he fears something. Well, multiple things. But you get the point.

[Citadel16 he/him]

if you can poison an epic, but theyre impervious to bullets, does that still classify them as a High Epic?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

16 minutes ago, WarriorMark16 said:

if you can poison an epic, but theyre impervious to bullets, does that still classify them as a High Epic?

I would say yes. PI doesn't have to mean immune to all harm; and besides, it's a lot easier to shoot at a paranoid Epic than it would be to try and poison them. 

[breakingamber he/him]

19 minutes ago, WarriorMark16 said:

if you can poison an epic, but theyre impervious to bullets, does that still classify them as a High Epic?

Yes. The definition of a high Epic means that the Epic is immune to most forms of damage. For example, Fortuity was killed without his weakness in effect.

Edited August 24, 2016 by breakingamber

[Citadel16 he/him]

2 minutes ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

I would say yes. PI doesn't have to mean immune to all harm; and besides, it's a lot easier to shoot at a paranoid Epic than it would be to try and poison them. 

fair enough. thats just been bugging me a while.

[Voidus]

10 hours ago, Puncake said:

Yes, a few hundred can. In fact, 20v can kill you - if the current is strong enough. That's why we see people getting killed by police tasers. 

Not exaggerating. His max output is indeed a billion volts, but that would tire him out. 

 

Salem? 

It's worth noting that while you are correct it's the current that kills not the voltage, the two are related. Current is proportional to voltage so higher voltage = higher current too. And assuming there was nothing particularly noteworthy about the person being zapped a billion volts would do quite a bit more than just kill you. At the very least you'd turn rather crispy.

Others have already covered most of the information on Salem, it features a rather powerful policing force and most Epics are kept pretty firmly in line, every day fights are carried out on the Astral Plane, where Soulcaster (The leader of Salem) can arrange the entire plane to suit the combatants or even change the powers of the Epics fighting (Though that's not often done for Epic vs. Epic fights). Other than that we've been working on trying to introduce some other plots to the city lately but I haven't checked through the thread in a while so not sure whether that progressed at all.

Arclight is most welcome, though at the moment Salem is somewhat stuck in limbo while we wait for a few scenes to resolve themselves and end the day.

[Voidus]

So I'm trying to revitalize Salem again, some of that may be resolved by some characters being adopted since I think a few scenes were waiting on characters whose writers are not regular contributors anymore, but I also remembered an idea someone had a while ago to turn a part of the city into a weird nightmarish realm, somewhat reminiscent of the Halloween RP we did ages ago. That person hasn't been on the site in a few months but the plot could still work pretty easily and I even had an Epic in mind for it (Because of course I did). Problem is that this is one of my slightly more obscure Epic ideas so it may cause some problems and would definitely need approval first.

Spell-binder
Primary power: Spelling alteration - can trasmute or alter any non-living object to varying degrees by altering the spelling of it. Can either add, remove or change a single letter to the spelling of an object.
(Example: Could change air into fir and create a tree where there was previously just air, could change heat into heal to cause a flame to turn into healing energy, could turn cups into cup and remove all but one from a group) Can only change the spelling into a word that already exists and is well known.
Secondary power: Information Overlay, can see the true properties of all objects in his surroundings, appears similar to a user interface like in games, details the name of objects/people and some of their properties. (eg. Book: lukewarm, contains pages, white, combustible)

[breakingamber he/him]

14 minutes ago, Voidus said:

So I'm trying to revitalize Salem again, some of that may be resolved by some characters being adopted since I think a few scenes were waiting on characters whose writers are not regular contributors anymore, but I also remembered an idea someone had a while ago to turn a part of the city into a weird nightmarish realm, somewhat reminiscent of the Halloween RP we did ages ago. That person hasn't been on the site in a few months but the plot could still work pretty easily and I even had an Epic in mind for it (Because of course I did). Problem is that this is one of my slightly more obscure Epic ideas so it may cause some problems and would definitely need approval first.

Spell-binder
Primary power: Spelling alteration - can trasmute or alter any non-living object to varying degrees by altering the spelling of it. Can either add, remove or change a single letter to the spelling of an object.
(Example: Could change air into fir and create a tree where there was previously just air, could change heat into heal to cause a flame to turn into healing energy, could turn cups into cup and remove all but one from a group) Can only change the spelling into a word that already exists and is well known.
Secondary power: Information Overlay, can see the true properties of all objects in his surroundings, appears similar to a user interface like in games, details the name of objects/people and some of their properties. (eg. Book: lukewarm, contains pages, white, combustible)

It's... interesting, but it needs to be fleshed out a little more.

Can he transmute an object more than once? For example, can he take a word, turn it into a sword, and then turn it into, a sworn oath or something like that?

Second, what about size? Can he transmute an ordinary mouse into a full sized house?

Third, about his information overlay: If he could transmute air into fir, would the word "air" be everywhere (figuratively) or the word "space"?

[Voidus]

45 minutes ago, breakingamber said:

It's... interesting, but it needs to be fleshed out a little more.

Can he transmute an object more than once? For example, can he take a word, turn it into a sword, and then turn it into, a sworn oath or something like that?

Second, what about size? Can he transmute an ordinary mouse into a full sized house?

Third, about his information overlay: If he could transmute air into fir, would the word "air" be everywhere (figuratively) or the word "space"?

Short answers: Yes he can use it more than once, yes he can alter mass though he is limited in the size he can turn things into or from, any time he focussed on air it would come up with air along with a few other properties of the air in that immediate area.

Long answer: His full power profile and the sections for the generic version of each of his abilities:
 

Spoiler

Spell-binder^bio
Powers: Spelling alteration (Tier 4)¹, Objective knowledge (Tier 2-3)¹
Primary power: Spelling alteration - can trasmute or alter any non-living object to varying degrees by altering the spelling of it. Can either add, remove or change a single letter to the spelling of an object.
(Example: Could change air into fir and create a tree where there was previously just air, could change heat into heal to cause a flame to turn into healing energy, could turn cups into cup and remove all but one from a group) Can only change the spelling into a word that already exists and is well known.
Secondary power: Information Overlay, can see the true properties of all objects in his surroundings, appears similar to a user interface like in games, details the name of objects/people and some of their properties. (eg. Book: lukewarm, contains pages, white, combustible)
Limitations: Spelling alteration needs to be size limited per section on ability for tier 4 users, Spell-Binder should fall into this range and perhaps slightly below in order to become a potential playable character. Limit ability to non-living matter for transmutations at the least, leaving possible the ability to change attributes of living things but not the living thing itself. Cannot change words into non-tangible words, word should have an obvious and immediately actionable effect. (eg. Cannot change Tim into Time as time is an intangible concept with no obvious outcome), Epic should be unable to control the outcome of changing the word in any way, objects/actions should become the ideal version of that word rather than require additional interpretation.
Power potentiation: Powers largely combine to allow for more easy use of primary power, other than providing keywords to change powers have limited crossover. No immediately obvious cross-power gains. Primary power shows good compounding effects with itself however, the ability to change one object into another and then change it again into a third object that could not be changed without the intermediate step (eg. Air > Fir > Fur)
Plans: Potential Wastelands Epic, non High Epic so shouldn’t inflate a cities count, would displace the role of other quartermaster Epics if trying to fit into most other cities. Perhaps use in non-Reckoners story? Good ability for runic novel or other unique ability users novel.
Potential issues: Somewhat esoteric as powers go, also rather general and could be used to cause disproportionate effects by a skilled user, ability needs to be restricted to non-living things to avoid gaining an insta-kill power in addition to large scale object manipulation. Range of words with no tangible effect but still valid as words.

Spelling alteration:

Power can be used to alter the spelling of an object, may be able to alter specific words in specific ways or alter words generally within confined rules. Subset of generic transmutation and property manipulation.
Tier 1: Can alter words in very limited ways (eg. Can only substitute one letter for a predetermined letter) , generally only usable on items of small size/energy (Football sized objects, energy up to a candle flame)
Tier 2: Can alter words more generally, may be able to add or subtract any letter but not alter existing letters. Usable on items of normal size and energy, up to the size of a person, energy up to a fireplace.
Tier 3: Can alter words by a single letter in any way, adding subtracting or substituting. Usable on items of size up to a small house, energy up to a bonfire.
Tier 4: Can alter words by a letter in any way, may also switch letters around in the word. Usable on items of size up to a city block, energy up to a building fire..
Tier 5: Can alter words almost limitlessly, turning any word into any other, usable on items the size of a small city, energy up to a forest fire.

Tricks: Fairly straightforward ability with no obvious tricks unlocking at higher tiers, possibility of using intermediary words to achieve desired end result (eg. Map>maps>mars>bars>bar>tar)

 

Objective knowledge:

The ability to obtain knowledge that is objective in nature, not perceived through a subjective sense of any kind and not capable of being deceived, tricked or fooled. Has many child-powers such as precognition¹, telepathy¹ and many sensory abilities.
Tier 1: The ability to discern whether or not something you perceive with a subjective sense is real or not. (See through illusions) when in close proximity.
Tier 2: The ability to discern information beyond what you would otherwise be able to tell (eg. Relays some properties of an object you perceive such as the heat of a fire) when in close proximity, discern reality within eyesight.
Tier 3: The ability to discern somewhat detailed information of objects in line of sight, see through all illusions.
Tier 4: Temporal objective knowledge, know not only what an object is but what it has been and will be.
Tier 5: Borderline Omniscience, be able to discern the true nature of all things, intuitive understanding of people and what motivates them, precognition¹ and retrocognition¹.

Tricks: Varies greatly on the specific application of ability or child ability, list on a per-Epic basis.

 

 

[breakingamber he/him]

8 hours ago, Voidus said:

Short answers: Yes he can use it more than once, yes he can alter mass though he is limited in the size he can turn things into or from, any time he focussed on air it would come up with air along with a few other properties of the air in that immediate area.

Long answer: His full power profile and the sections for the generic version of each of his abilities:
 

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Spell-binder^bio
Powers: Spelling alteration (Tier 4)¹, Objective knowledge (Tier 2-3)¹
Primary power: Spelling alteration - can trasmute or alter any non-living object to varying degrees by altering the spelling of it. Can either add, remove or change a single letter to the spelling of an object.
(Example: Could change air into fir and create a tree where there was previously just air, could change heat into heal to cause a flame to turn into healing energy, could turn cups into cup and remove all but one from a group) Can only change the spelling into a word that already exists and is well known.
Secondary power: Information Overlay, can see the true properties of all objects in his surroundings, appears similar to a user interface like in games, details the name of objects/people and some of their properties. (eg. Book: lukewarm, contains pages, white, combustible)
Limitations: Spelling alteration needs to be size limited per section on ability for tier 4 users, Spell-Binder should fall into this range and perhaps slightly below in order to become a potential playable character. Limit ability to non-living matter for transmutations at the least, leaving possible the ability to change attributes of living things but not the living thing itself. Cannot change words into non-tangible words, word should have an obvious and immediately actionable effect. (eg. Cannot change Tim into Time as time is an intangible concept with no obvious outcome), Epic should be unable to control the outcome of changing the word in any way, objects/actions should become the ideal version of that word rather than require additional interpretation.
Power potentiation: Powers largely combine to allow for more easy use of primary power, other than providing keywords to change powers have limited crossover. No immediately obvious cross-power gains. Primary power shows good compounding effects with itself however, the ability to change one object into another and then change it again into a third object that could not be changed without the intermediate step (eg. Air > Fir > Fur)
Plans: Potential Wastelands Epic, non High Epic so shouldn’t inflate a cities count, would displace the role of other quartermaster Epics if trying to fit into most other cities. Perhaps use in non-Reckoners story? Good ability for runic novel or other unique ability users novel.
Potential issues: Somewhat esoteric as powers go, also rather general and could be used to cause disproportionate effects by a skilled user, ability needs to be restricted to non-living things to avoid gaining an insta-kill power in addition to large scale object manipulation. Range of words with no tangible effect but still valid as words.
 

 

Spelling alteration:

 

Power can be used to alter the spelling of an object, may be able to alter specific words in specific ways or alter words generally within confined rules. Subset of generic transmutation and property manipulation.
Tier 1: Can alter words in very limited ways (eg. Can only substitute one letter for a predetermined letter) , generally only usable on items of small size/energy (Football sized objects, energy up to a candle flame)
Tier 2: Can alter words more generally, may be able to add or subtract any letter but not alter existing letters. Usable on items of normal size and energy, up to the size of a person, energy up to a fireplace.
Tier 3: Can alter words by a single letter in any way, adding subtracting or substituting. Usable on items of size up to a small house, energy up to a bonfire.
Tier 4: Can alter words by a letter in any way, may also switch letters around in the word. Usable on items of size up to a city block, energy up to a building fire..
Tier 5: Can alter words almost limitlessly, turning any word into any other, usable on items the size of a small city, energy up to a forest fire.

 

Tricks: Fairly straightforward ability with no obvious tricks unlocking at higher tiers, possibility of using intermediary words to achieve desired end result (eg. Map>maps>mars>bars>bar>tar)

 

 

 

Objective knowledge:

 

The ability to obtain knowledge that is objective in nature, not perceived through a subjective sense of any kind and not capable of being deceived, tricked or fooled. Has many child-powers such as precognition¹, telepathy¹ and many sensory abilities.
Tier 1: The ability to discern whether or not something you perceive with a subjective sense is real or not. (See through illusions) when in close proximity.
Tier 2: The ability to discern information beyond what you would otherwise be able to tell (eg. Relays some properties of an object you perceive such as the heat of a fire) when in close proximity, discern reality within eyesight.
Tier 3: The ability to discern somewhat detailed information of objects in line of sight, see through all illusions.
Tier 4: Temporal objective knowledge, know not only what an object is but what it has been and will be.
Tier 5: Borderline Omniscience, be able to discern the true nature of all things, intuitive understanding of people and what motivates them, precognition¹ and retrocognition¹.

Tricks: Varies greatly on the specific application of ability or child ability, list on a per-Epic basis.

 

 

 

This seems to create more questions.

Let's say he finds a patch of sod. Can he turn it into God or mod? I find that a bit OP.

If he finds a mitten and turns it into a kitten, does he control the kitten, or is it just an ordinary kitten? What would the size of the kitten be?

You also said he can switch around letters. Does that mean he can shift around letters like an anagram and turn a Boeing into a big one, whatever that is?

This Epic seems very interesting and fun to play, with a lot of imagination, but we need more clearly defined boundaries.