Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) All of Roshar is the result of crem deposits which is why there's only a single continent. Why do islands exist you ask? Tai-na collect crem on their giant backs throughout their long long lives. Eventually enough crem Is on them that they drown and they sink to the bottom of the ocean where more crem builds up until it breaks sea level. Edited March 4, 2016 by Bryce Carmony
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Title should read "in Roshar" not "is Roshar" using phone to write.
Pathfinder Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 All of Roshar is the result of crem deposits which is why there's only a single continent. Why do islands exist you ask? Tai-na collect crem on their giant backs throughout their long long lives. Eventually enough crem Is on them that they drown and they sink to the bottom of the ocean where more crem builds up until it breaks sea level. Most crustaceans that spend extended time in water have gills. Why would the Tai-na have not evolved some if that was the result?
natc Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Earth crustaceans are generally aquatic to begin with though, right? A lot of Rosharan crustaceans are terrestrial. Since that's basically all that lives there. Edited March 4, 2016 by natc
Pathfinder Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Earth crustaceans are generally aquatic to begin with though, right? A lot of Rosharan crustaceans are terrestrial. Since that's basically all that lives there. Yet the Tai-na are not terrestrial, they are the equivalency of shore crabs which have gills. They spend 100 percent of their lives mostly submerged in water.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Even if they die of just old age they will disrupt the crem distribution. It's why there are islands in the reshi sea.
Pathfinder Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Even if they die of just old age they will disrupt the crem distribution. It's why there are islands in the reshi sea. That may occur for some of the islands in that particular area where those creatures reside, but certainly does not definitely prove that all islands are. 1
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 That may occur for some of the islands in that particular area where those creatures reside, but certainly does not definitely prove that all islands are. Given there are no volcanoes on Roshar I don't see how'd theyd form
Pathfinder Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Given there are no volcanoes on Roshar I don't see how'd theyd form Roshar is not a natural planet. Its form itself is a fractal. The moons are not natural. There remains a lot more to be seen before it can be conclusively stated why and how things occur on a planet that does not function in many ways naturally like earth.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 Roshar is not a natural planet. Its form itself is a fractal. The moons are not natural. There remains a lot more to be seen before it can be conclusively stated why and how things occur on a planet that does not function in many ways naturally like earth. Exactly, it's a continent of Crem with islands on top of dead great shells.
Pathfinder Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Exactly, it's a continent of Crem with islands on top of dead great shells. ..........and exactly you have no concrete information to back any of that statement up whatsoever. There are mounds on the shatteredplains. It must be dead chulls. Oh wait, when cut into it is clearly abandoned buildings from a previous culture. So yeah there could be no other reason for build up of crem 1
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 4, 2016 Author Posted March 4, 2016 ..........and exactly you have no concrete information to back any of that statement up whatsoever. There are mounds on the shatteredplains. It must be dead chulls. Oh wait, when cut into it is clearly abandoned buildings from a previous culture. So yeah there could be no other reason for build up of crem So what caused the islands. Currently Occams razor compels us to agree with me. But if you want to state something that Requires a more robust set of assumption for the hundreds of tiny islands on the Reshi Sea you can it's just against the razor.
DreamEternal Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) I still don't see why they couldn't arise from the same process that formed the continent. Here, a sharper Razor. Edited March 5, 2016 by DreamEternal
Voidus Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 Crem can't build up on them at the bottom of the ocean, it needs to dry to form a solid, tidal forces would just wash them clean. 1
Jondesu he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 They could be more remnants of a similar cataclysm to the one that shattered the Shattered Plains. If it was an area closer to the sea already, and was broken up, instead of chasms, you'd get islands, and over time the gaps could erode further. jW
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Author Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Crem can't build up on them at the bottom of the ocean, it needs to dry to form a solid, tidal forces would just wash them clean.There aren't tides on Roshar it had three tiny gem moons.Phobos is 14 miles across and is roughly the size of the artificial moons of Roshar, to compare our moon is 1,079 miles across. Edited March 5, 2016 by Bryce Carmony
Voidus Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 There aren't tides on Roshar it had three tiny gem moons. Phobos is 14 miles across and is roughly the size of the artificial moons of Roshar, to compare our moon is 1,079 miles across. There are still tides, it's mentioned multiple times in the purelake sequence in WoK and as part of the way the marabethians punish criminals. Additionally they have highstorms, which generate forces far larger than tides, they go through tidal waves every few days. No idea where you're getting those measurements from, care to share a source?
hoidhunter he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) What's the deal with Crem anyway??? Anyone else get the feeling like this is something that is going to hold a weird significance in the future? Maybe Crem is actually the long since eroded leftovers from hundreds of thousands of years of crustaceans living and dying? The way that a diatoms produce a lot of silt on the ocean floor... Edited March 5, 2016 by hoidhunter
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Author Posted March 5, 2016 There are still tides, it's mentioned multiple times in the purelake sequence in WoK and as part of the way the marabethians punish criminals. Additionally they have highstorms, which generate forces far larger than tides, they go through tidal waves every few days. No idea where you're getting those measurements from, care to share a source? How big the moon is? It's pretty common knowledge.
Jondesu he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 How big the moon is? It's pretty common knowledge. It's never stated in the books, since they don't know. It's certainly not common knowledge around here that the moons are about the same size as Pluto's moon either, so what's your source? jW
DreamEternal Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 Crem can't build up on them at the bottom of the ocean, it needs to dry to form a solid, tidal forces would just wash them clean. So how did the continent ever form? I believe there was some stone there before all the crem build-up, and that could also apply to the isles. No need for dead Tai-Na.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Author Posted March 5, 2016 It's never stated in the books, since they don't know. It's certainly not common knowledge around here that the moons are about the same size as Pluto's moon either, so what's your source? jW PeterAhlstrom, on 27 Feb 2014 - 11:37 PM, said: They are very small. Think Phobos and you'll be in the ballpark. http://www.17thshard...books/?p=102426
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 5, 2016 Author Posted March 5, 2016 So how did the continent ever form? I believe there was some stone there before all the crem build-up, and that could also apply to the isles. No need for dead Tai-Na. There's no evidence of anyone on Roshar living on anything but crem deposits. I can't just make up stuff. Crem and Tai-Na exist. Mythical eternal islands don't.
DreamEternal Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 There's no evidence of anyone on Roshar living on anything but crem deposits. I can't just make up stuff. Crem and Tai-Na exist. Mythical eternal islands don't. They have mines. They must extract something from those mines, besides crem. Plus, mythical eternal islands? Those islands could have been created with the rest of the planet, since most of our information points towards it being anything but natural. And if we assume Roshar to be a natural planet, they could origined from the planet's early geological history, before its core solidified. 1
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