king of nowhere Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 it is established that bleeder took the body of a farmer and blew up a dam to cause a flood and push the city on edge. the kandra/farmer was captured and sentenced to death, and after a few days she escaped the grave. the question is, how did she survive those days? kandras can alter their body so they don't need to breath in the normal way, but they still need to breath, and there is no air available underground - well, there is a bit, but not enough to support anything bigger than a earthworm. does it mean kandras can enter some sort of lethargy with extremely reduced energy requirements, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Considering how their morphing is advanced enough to be able to pick locks with their skin I'm sure they can get pretty creative when it comes to the morphology of breathing apparati. Actually, how do earthworms breathe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper he/him Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Have you ever wondered how I breathe without a nose or lungs? You breathe through your lungs. Your lungs take in oxygen and give off carbon dioxide. Worms do not have lungs but I breathe through my skin. I take in oxygen through my skin and it goes right into my bloodstream. My skin must stay wet in order for the oxygen to pass through it, but if I am in too much water I will drown. Just keep me damp, moist and slimy. Although if the water has lots of air in it, I can stay under for a long time. (Written by a worm, to a human audience. Enjoy.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Considering how their morphing is advanced enough to be able to pick locks with their skin I'm sure they can get pretty creative when it comes to the morphology of breathing apparati. Actually, how do earthworms breathe? earthworms breathe by simply absorbing oxygen through their skin. it only works for small animals because of high surface/mass ratio. the square/cube law prevents this mechanism from working on anything bigger. anyway, the problem here is not the breathing apparatus, but the fact that there is no supply of air in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Arum Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Perhaps she was buried in a coffin? I imagine that if she was, there would be an air pocket inside the coffin and that she probably could alter her body to use the air at a lower rate than normal. If she didn't do that, maybe if you go into some type of meditative stasis your heart rate decreases which automatically implies your body is using less oxygen more efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Perhaps she was buried in a coffin? I imagine that if she was, there would be an air pocket inside the coffin and that she probably could alter her body to use the air at a lower rate than normal. If she didn't do that, maybe if you go into some type of meditative stasis your heart rate decreases which automatically implies your body is using less oxygen more efficiently. Also possible. I have no idea how long one person can survive on the air that is inside a coffin, but if kandras can slow their metabolism, it may be workable. For a moment I wondered how she would have gotten out of the coffin, but as a kandra, she could hide a whole kit of tools in her bowels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CthulhuSpren Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maybe she had a Gasper spike. I'm joking.............or am I? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maybe she had a Gasper spike. I'm joking.............or am I? Nice one. I never thought that she could have used any one metallic power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walin he/him Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Maybe she had that bodyguard that's that was on her side come and poke a straw through the ground. Disguise it as a flower in an urn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofwu he/him Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I think there's a conspiracy in all of this... Johnst is the name of the person in question. The general assumption (Marasi and MeLaan's assumption) is that Paalm killed Johnst, used him to blow the dam, was executed and buried, and then escaped from the grave. I think there are some flaws to this, plus I've got a theory that there's more going on in SoS than meets the eye. I think Trell/Autonomy is pulling strings and directly interacting with Scadrial, particularly via the spikes of an unknown metal (presumably 'trellium'). My theory is that these spikes block out Harmony and allow Trell/Autonomy to speak directly to people. So what are the oddities? Marasi and MeLaan identify one of them. If Paalm were playing the role of Johnst, she would have done her research and known the man's family better. They write this off, assuming that she was in a hurry or just didn't care, but I don't think this solves the puzzle. If that's the case, why bother imitating someone at all? The whole point was to put real economic stress on the Elendel basin. Couldn't Paalm have just done that without the use of someone else's bones? Also, why would she defend herself at the trial, arguing that the whole thing was a mistake? (saying he wanted to ruin a neighbor's farm, not blow the whole dam) If her end game is to be executed and crawl out of the grave, and if she's in a hurry, why not take full responsibility and move things along? It all just doesn't make enough sense for me. My theory is that Paalm wasn't the one to blow the dam- it was Johnst himself. But why would Johnst semi-accidentally blow a dam, forget the names of his family, and then ask to be executed ASAP? Because he was losing his mind... thanks to a trellium spike. It's EXACTLY the same thing that happened to Rian-- the guy who "tried" to shoot the governor in Elendel. The voice in his head was driving him crazy and convincing him to do things he normally wouldn't. It exploited his anger towards a neighbor and drove the man to a dark place that left his mind broken. Why was Johnst's grave desecrated? Because Paalm (or somebody) had reason to recover the trellium spike. Heck, maybe it's the same one implanted in Rian. My theory is that Trell/Autonomy herself is actively speaking to people with these spikes. For more on this, see the theory linked in my signature. But it's also possible that Paalm was the one who convinced Johnst to do what he did, for the sake of a less conspiratorial answer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Kandra biology seems to be really mutable, a couple of days underground is probably no big deal. Some turtles can survive in hibernation under a frozen-over pond for months, so the degree of metabolism-slowing involved really isn't that exceptional even by Earth standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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