Fallen Rope he/him Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Why would the lord ruler create metal minds that could give any one his powers. My guess is that it was part of his plan to stop ruin, if he ever died he would want someone else to protect the well. My guess is that his heir was the head obligator or head inquisitor, I think both were killed in the uprising, so no one was left knowing the power of the bands. 1
Stormgate he/him Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 We still have no confirmation that the Bands exist at all. Although, he was obviously concerned with the threat of hostile takeover, as demonstrated by the storage caches and the atium stash.
Voidus Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Well we know that his bands do exist, whether or not they actually contain his powers rather than just his more normal feruchemical stores is another matter.
Fallen Rope he/him Posted December 25, 2015 Author Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) So it could just be that a true self might be able to use them. Also if someones identity is linked to their metalminds, could taping someone else's metal mind begin to change your identity. There is an artifact that potentially contains the lord rules powers, memories and identity. Maybe the bands were a different kind of contingency plan? Edited December 25, 2015 by Fallen Rope
DeadFencer Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Yeah the bands could cause the wearer to assume Rashek's identity, which would be helpful in keeping Ruin from escaping.
Voidus Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 So it could just be that a true self might be able to use them. Also if someones identity is linked to their metalminds, could taping someone else's metal mind begin to change your identity. There is an artifact that potentially contains the lord rules powers, memories and identity. Maybe the bands were a different kind of contingency plan? Could do but he would have had to have left his identity in them then, which presumably would cause him to have no personality at all.
natc Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Assuming Identity isn't one of those things that just come back, you mean. I contemplated preserving copperminds of his knowledge of Ruin as an excuse, but he definitely realizes that those things aren't trustworthy so that's out.
Voidus Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Assuming Identity isn't one of those things that just come back, you mean. I contemplated preserving copperminds of his knowledge of Ruin as an excuse, but he definitely realizes that those things aren't trustworthy so that's out. Well if it isn't then presumably you'd only have his personality for as long as you kept tapping it. I suppose his plan might have been that as soon as someone assumed his identity he'd run to find more metal and start compounding the identity though.
DreamEternal Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Well if it isn't then presumably you'd only have his personality for as long as you kept tapping it. I suppose his plan might have been that as soon as someone assumed his identity he'd run to find more metal and start compounding the identity though. Or maybe if he stored half of it, he could rebuild if slowly, the same way storing memories doenst stop you from getting new ones. He wouldn't have quite the same identity, but something similar.
Voidus Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Or maybe if he stored half of it, he could rebuild if slowly, the same way storing memories doenst stop you from getting new ones. He wouldn't have quite the same identity, but something similar. Could be, it would give him one heck of an identity crisis though But I can think of a few things that would fit in with that, TLR has had a child and he also once tried to destroy the final empire. We have no idea how close or related those two events were but I do think that one or the other or both could have been caused by a sudden Identity shift.
DreamEternal Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Could be, it would give him one heck of an identity crisis though He was never quite right on the head, thought. Could be enough to force him from a mundane jerk and Terris supremacist to the "I am your God" tyrant that turned his own people into slaves to make sure none would challenge him and no matter how tired he was with being an eternal dictator didn't find someone to share responsabilities with or take his place.
Dahak he/him Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Could do but he would have had to have left his identity in them then, which presumably would cause him to have no personality at all. What happens when you compound your Identity? Sould he have done that to leave a copy of himself in the bands?
StarFox Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 What happens when you compound your Identity? Sould he have done that to leave a copy of himself in the bands? It should create more identity. However, BS once mentioned compounding aluminum is not quite useful, I think he means "these more identity is not quite useful" as identity is something we prefer to storing instead of tapping. He could left a copy of his identiy in the bands. A trueself should be able to tap this identity, and then....he should be able to access any metalminds(they may be in the museum now) left by Lord Ruler
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