FormlessFox he/him Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I recommend Mistborn the most because to me it is such an amazing and completely satisfying series. I mean by the end you know the whole story from creation until the end of the story arc and beyond. The level of worldbuilding and the completely unique magic system pulls you in pretty much immediately and the story's ocean's eleven meets xmen beginning plot is really engaging. My friends refuse to read and I tried for the longest time to push the Wheel of Time on them. I eventually gave up and tried for Mistborn haha. I have also sat down and told the entire story arc of Kaladin in the Way of Kings and the entire Mistborn plot when drunk. My friends were blown away by the thought put into the magic system and overall story but their response was, "thats so cool you should make a youtube channel where you explain books that people don't want to read...". I stared at them blankly and wept 1
Rellar he/him Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I recommend Mistborn the most because to me it is such an amazing and completely satisfying series. I mean by the end you know the whole story from creation until the end of the story arc and beyond. The level of worldbuilding and the completely unique magic system pulls you in pretty much immediately and the story's ocean's eleven meets xmen beginning plot is really engaging. My friends refuse to read and I tried for the longest time to push the Wheel of Time on them. I eventually gave up and tried for Mistborn haha. I have also sat down and told the entire story arc of Kaladin in the Way of Kings and the entire Mistborn plot when drunk. My friends were blown away by the thought put into the magic system and overall story but their response was, "thats so cool you should make a youtube channel where you explain books that people don't want to read...". I stared at them blankly and wept Only issue with Mistborn was HoA was at times I get a little sick of listening to Sazed drone on about how empty he feels around the third book. Nynaeve tugging her braid for the millionth time gets a little old too. Edited December 4, 2015 by Shotgunsalesman
Stormgate he/him Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I am a terrible book critic. I never question anything in a book, making foreshadowing lost on me. On that note, I got my sister to start reading The Emperors Soul 1
Vander Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 I am a terrible book critic. I never question anything in a book, making foreshadowing lost on me. On that note, I got my sister to start reading The Emperors Soul Yes! But... isn't that book 2...? I recommend Mistborn the most because to me it is such an amazing and completely satisfying series. I mean by the end you know the whole story from creation until the end of the story arc and beyond. The level of worldbuilding and the completely unique magic system pulls you in pretty much immediately and the story's ocean's eleven meets xmen beginning plot is really engaging. My friends refuse to read and I tried for the longest time to push the Wheel of Time on them. I eventually gave up and tried for Mistborn haha. I have also sat down and told the entire story arc of Kaladin in the Way of Kings and the entire Mistborn plot when drunk. My friends were blown away by the thought put into the magic system and overall story but their response was, "thats so cool you should make a youtube channel where you explain books that people don't want to read...". I stared at them blankly and wept Yeah! I keep trying to get my friends to take up WoT (I haven't even tried for Sanderson books yet, mostly because of their reluctance toward WoT) but all I've got is "Yeah, I will." IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS.
Stormgate he/him Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 The Emperor's Soul isn't really a sequel, since the countries that play a large part of the events in Elantris are refered to in passing at best. I'll just take what I can get.
Vander Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 The Emperor's Soul isn't really a sequel, since the countries that play a large part of the events in Elantris are refered to in passing at best. I'll just take what I can get. Ah! I see. Meanwhile, have any of you ever found it annoying when a person says they are "against fantasy because of Disney?"
Stormgate he/him Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 I would be neutral to it, because I think a healthy argument can be fun, and proving how Disney is not the representative of an entire genre is fun. I would probably lean towards simply turning it into a Sanderson book sales pitch, but hey, I'm posting on the 17th Shard on a regular basis. I probably enjoy his books.
hoidhunter he/him Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 The thing that I get really tired of hearing when talking to other people about books is..."I don't really like to read fiction. I prefer to read books that I can learn something from. Like history or self help." As though reading a fiction (god forbid FANTASY) book is the equivalent of staring at a blank wall for hours. Anyone who says this suffers from a severe lack of imagination and is...deep down...a masochist who feels that nothing fun can be good for you...
The Ninja Yodeler he/him Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 The thing that I get really tired of hearing when talking to other people about books is..."I don't really like to read fiction. I prefer to read books that I can learn something from. Like history or self help." As though reading a fiction (god forbid FANTASY) book is the equivalent of staring at a blank wall for hours. Anyone who says this suffers from a severe lack of imagination and is...deep down...a masochist who feels that nothing fun can be good for you... To those types of people I usually say ' Yeah, I dont read nonfiction because I read to escape the world around me. So why would I want to read about the world around me?' Then I proceed to tell them, with the most pity I can muster, that I feel sorry for them because they have no idea what they're missing out on. I literally feel sad if I try to picture myself not finding Sanderson books. 2
hoidhunter he/him Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) To those types of people I usually say ' Yeah, I dont read nonfiction because I read to escape the world around me. So why would I want to read about the world around me?' Then I proceed to tell them, with the most pity I can muster, that I feel sorry for them because they have no idea what they're missing out on. I literally feel sad if I try to picture myself not finding Sanderson books. AMEN...and upvote Besides, you can learn all kinds of things from fiction. Even the most far removed unrealistic fantasy can expand your vocabulary, refine your knowledge of writing techniques, make you ponder questions of ethics and morality in situations that you've never been in before, and in general, tends to make you a more empathetic person in real life. Granted...reading a long essay on wave particles is a better way to learn the material then picking up a scifi book that talks about the subject...but the two books are obviously FOR different purposes. It's like a conversation that goes: "So, last night I had sex with this girl Lisa, and MAN was it ever amazing! You should have sex with her." "I don't like to have sex with women. I usually just go running with them. It's such a better way to get physical exercise." "Well...I mean...Running is definitely better for physical fitness...but...you're kind of missing the point." Edited December 9, 2015 by hoidhunter 1
Vander Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 Haha! But yes, that is one of the most irritating things out there. Nice analogy, by the way. 1
hoidhunter he/him Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Haha! But yes, that is one of the most irritating things out there. Nice analogy, by the way. Thanks...I thought long and hard...no pun intended...(have an upvote...They're FREE!!!)
A Windspren he/him Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Oh, man. I just came across the most egregious example of an infuriating non-fan today on Goodreads. I'm really not sure what to think of this guy. He must be a troll or something because I just can't understand how anyone could be so dense. This guy is like the Platonic form of dullardry (it's a a word now, okay?). If you want to see for yourself, this the thread: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2251585-i-am-losing-interest-really-fast?page=1 But I really suggest not even reading it. It will just make you angry. This guy seriously doesn't understand that Shardblades aren't around in the Physical Realm when the bearers dismiss them. That was clear in the prologue to TWoK, even though nothing else was yet. He makes fun of the description of a Highstorm blowing leaves ahead of it on the Shattered Plains because he doesn't think there should be leaves in the "desert" (yes, he doesn't understand that it's not a desert at all). He criticizes the magic systems, somehow having gotten the impression that Surgebinders can just do anything that Brandon finds convenient for the plot (also, he thinks it is all called soulcasting). It just goes on and on and on. Technically, this guy doesn't count as a non-reader, but wow. The most infuriating non-reader could never make me as angry as that. Oh my Hoid, I just summoned Odiumspren. How does this "Andrew" (and aliases) even exist?
Oversleep Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I have also sat down and told the entire story arc of Kaladin in the Way of Kings and the entire Mistborn plot when drunk. My friends were blown away by the thought put into the magic system and overall story but their response was, "thats so cool you should make a youtube channel where you explain books that people don't want to read...". I stared at them blankly and wept It's like they don't understand what's the concept of doing things by themselves. Like reading books or watching films or playing games instead of having them told about.
Stormgate he/him Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I think it may also be because FormlessFox was drunk. I personally would not be inclined to read a book recommended by a drunk guy, no matter how awesome their summary.
hoidhunter he/him Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Ugh! https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/17758754-i-have-lost-all-interest-in-this-book-and-probably-this-series I've never hated anyone more, in my life. Well, except this one guy. This is what I would refer to as empty criticism. It's when you harshly point out what you percieve it's flaws without addressing the issue of how these flaws could be fixed. He pokes fun and sanderson using names that are difficult to pronounce in our language in order to make the world seem for fantastic and foreign...and stops there. Is he suggesting that Kaladin Stormblessed should be named Phil the really lucky? He scoffs at Sanderson focusing the story's setting on the shattered plains with only brief glimpses at the rest of the world...and stops there. And yet...if we visited characters from all different parts of the world more frequently and used them to develop the plot in many different areas...he would probably criticise the plot as being vague and unfocues. Some people just like to (edit: complain...I wanted to use a different word that starts with B and ends in tch), and try to pass it off as constructive criticism. Edited December 12, 2015 by hoidhunter
Vander Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 This is what I would refer to as empty criticism. It's when you harshly point out what you percieve it's flaws without addressing the issue of how these flaws could be fixed. He pokes fun and sanderson using names that are difficult to pronounce in our language in order to make the world seem for fantastic and foreign...and stops there. Is he suggesting that Kaladin Stormblessed should be named Phil the really lucky? He scoffs at Sanderson focusing the story's setting on the shattered plains with only brief glimpses at the rest of the world...and stops there. And yet...if we visited characters from all different parts of the world more frequently and used them to develop the plot in many different areas...he would probably criticise the plot as being vague and unfocues. Some people just like to (edit: complain...I wanted to use a different word that starts with B and ends in tch), and try to pass it off as constructive criticism. I think at this point I'll say what others said to me: Just be happy in the fact that his attempt at doing the same thing in a new thread was instantly frozen. On the other hand, I got lucky enough to have the last word against him!
FormlessFox he/him Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I think it may also be because FormlessFox was drunk. I personally would not be inclined to read a book recommended by a drunk guy, no matter how awesome their summary. I explained it sober many times but the important part was that they were drunk and actually listened lol
Stormgate he/him Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I explained it sober many times but the important part was that they were drunk and actually listened lol Storm their drunken minds!
Vander Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 The apathy to good fantasy... It makes you want to call in your personally army of Chasmfiends.
Stormgate he/him Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I would, but they're busy fighting koloss in another State.
Vander Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 I would, but they're busy fighting koloss in another State. Koloss?
Stormgate he/him Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Yeah, another Liveborn read Sanderson books, and made koloss. It's much easier than the kandra army he attacked with before. But I digress.
Vander Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 Yeah, another Liveborn read Sanderson books, and made koloss. It's much easier than the kandra army he attacked with before. But I digress. ...? Meanwhile, Andrew is hilarious sometimes. Have you seen this topic? (Well, you might have: I don't know if I used a link to get there, or searched it up, so...) https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/17862164-hey-andrew---#comment_id_144203389
A Windspren he/him Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 How hasn't Andrew been banned??? I will feed him to Nightblood, although I doubt even Nightblood will even be able to digest his Investiture.
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